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I've been the Other Woman. Feel so stupid and guilty.

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working9to5 · 04/05/2011 11:35

I have no excuse.
I always knew he had a girlfriend, though hoped it would end because they hadn't been together long. To begin with we were just friends but there was always an undercurrent.

I should have stopped seeing him when he moved in with her, and I did cool it off for a bit but he started telling me how much he missed me and how he was always thinking of me.

I hoped he'd be with me one day. He was constantly telling me how much he felt for me and cared about me, how lovely I was, how much I meant to him.

The day we first kissed was a shock to us both, but really it shouldn't have been because we'd put ourselves in a position for it to happen.

After we first had sex I tried to end it telling him I wouldn't be the OW. He told me he'd work it out so we could be together.

I only lasted a few weeks before he reeled me in telling me how much he had missed me and wanted to hold me. He told me he loved me.

I tried to end it a few more times but loneliness and his declarations of love always got the better of me. I didn't think of his girlfriend as a person, I convinced myself he was with her for convenience. I didn't let myself think of her feelings or what I was doing to her.

I let myself be convinced that he really did have feelings for me and really did care. I thought he was just playing it safe and making sure it was going to work between us before ending it with her.

It killed me everytime he said he was going 'home'. Because home was her. Being with him was causing me more pain than good, I wanted a real relationship with someone who loved me but instead was pathetically hanging around for scraps.

A few months ago I realised I was never going to be any more to him and ended it. This time I succeeded because I was no longer believing there was any future in it. It still hurts, I fell for him completely and letting go has been hard.

Ironically someone has now told his girlfriend about us. He has denied everything and asked me if I would meet her and convince her we are just friends. Just shows how little my feelings count to him. I've told him I won't do it. I can't lie to save his relationship. If he'd admitted to it and she wanted to confront me I'd find that easier. I know I was wrong and would be willing to face the consequences but I've been complicit in deceiving her enough and won't lie directly to her.

I can't believe I got into this situation. I'm a nice person. I NEVER thought I'd go with someone elses man. I hate myself for doing it. I can't believe I was able to disassociate myself from the reality of her as a person that I was helping to deceive and betray. I feel so stupid for believing I'd have a future with him and am disgusted with myself for even wanting that when he was already with her.

And I'm sorry. To her. And to all the other women that have been cheated on. I really am sorry and I know I have no excuse.

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sugartongue · 01/06/2011 22:32

Oh tell her! It's the not knowing when you suspect that kills. Or the humiliation of finding out later. the sooner she knows the truth the sooner she can start to heal herself.

working9to5 · 01/06/2011 22:37

but i wouldn't be telling her for her sake. I'd be telling her to blow his life apart. and that's what makes me nasty.

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notgreat1 · 01/06/2011 22:43

I think you should not make the first move. It is not your relationship.
However, she deserves the truth if she approaches you.
Concentrate on your recovery, the stronger you are, the easier you will find it to leave all of this behind you.

working9to5 · 01/06/2011 22:47

The thing that worries me is that I think karma will mean I will never be happy, that I don't deserve to be happy. I'm scared that I will feel this bad for the rest of my life. People like me don't deserve to be happy/

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notgreat1 · 01/06/2011 23:01

You have to stop thinking like that. You make your own luck in life. Ok so you have made a couple of bad decisions.Haven't we all?
So now make a good one, to put yourself first,to take back control, and every time you do something well, congratulate yourself, even something little.
One day at a time. Tell yourself you do deserve to be happy often enough, and maybe you will start to believe it.
It is working for me, although I still have some rubbish days.

panicandanxiety · 01/06/2011 23:02

I think I have been the OW on and off (but far more off than on) over the past 6 months. He denies I have been and says he is single.

These men go for vulnerable women (it started about 5 weeks after my husband left me and I was/am a mess - ex had said I made his skin crawl etc).

I text him and made it very clear that I never wanted him to contact me again on my personal mobile. The work contact then got to me and I have asked a colleague to take over dealing with him. You seriously need to get his number blocked.

A couple of months on and I'm still deperate to believe his crap tbh, but seriously won't be contacting him. Adele's set fire to the rain just about sums it up.

notgreat1 · 01/06/2011 23:09

Oh god don't listen to Adele if you are an OW, will turn you into a psycho lol

working9to5 · 01/06/2011 23:13

I find it so hard to believe I am worth anything. All I wanted was to have my family andbe happy. ex h blew that apart with his abuse. Once I recognised he had been abusive I never blamed myself but now after this I think it must be my fault. Men wouldn't treat me like thisif I didnt ask for it

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notgreat1 · 01/06/2011 23:22

I think you have been very damaged by your ex to think like that. Just because someone has sensed your vulnerability, does not mean everyone is like that. You need some RL support, and I think maybe some counselling would help you to unravel your negative thought patterns.
I had some, which was very helpful. I know I am an OW, but I have always known exactly what I am doing, and am in control of it , more now than before.

JoAlone · 13/06/2011 22:18

[working]. I understand completely. I am now exactly 3 weeks on from severing all contact. It had slowed down a lot before, and just before April I thought I was doing well, but I saw him, and it was just like he had this hold over me, like he could ask me to do anything, and I would just blindly follow. I became someone else, I acted in a way I never thought possible. I lied, not just to his wife and my husband (yes I was still married, we split in January, so by April I was single), but to myself. I truly believed he cared for me. Our story is quite different from yours, and yet so very much the same. I fell madly in love with him, and it was just as you describe, the first thing I think of in the morning, the last thing on my mind at night.
I believed we were each others 'true love', which is so pathetic, because I never believed in that twaddle, but with him, I believed it.

I had the old blah blah story about their relationship being on the rocks, but in truth, I should have told him right from the start to contact me when he was single, but I didn't, I hung on for any crumbs he would feed me, I was like his slave. He lives in a different country, made it even more intense. I know it was wrong.

It does get better. Somedays I 'realise' I haven't thought about him all day, those are very sucessfull days. Whilst I am not talking to him, having online chats with him, I can become stronger, and try to understand how on earth I let myself get into the position of being the OW. It is very confusing, I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end either, and still don't condone it, but boy do I understand it. It is one of the hardest things to describe to anyone. You know everything they are telling you is right, yes, he is a (insert own expletive here) and that you were wrong. But it doesn't change how you feel now, and your confusion. So hang in there.

We still have avenues of communication, and I haven't barred him from calling me, but he also, wants to come and visit me in the UK and bring his wife to see me, and after reading this post, I will deffinitely not see them together. For one it will be hell for me, which just shows how little he really appreciates the depth of my feeling and hurt, plus I will not lie to her if she asks me outright. She knows, as does your OM's girlfriend. In a way, I am relieved to no longer be in the middle, or involved. They need to sort their own problems out. She knows what he has done. She herself had an affair, for which he has forgiven her, so they are obviously a couple with problems. Trust me, she knows, no matter what the other bloggers tell you. The best you can do is to remove yourself as much as possible from the situation. It sounds like it will be harder for you than it was/is for me, because you have many common friends etc. But give yourself some breathing space. I must say, when I cut our online chat route off, it actually made me feel suprisingly free, like I had been loosed from some bind. But he wasn't hounding me.

If I saw him now, I know all resistance would crumble, and I can't explain it. He is not the reason I left my husband btw, he was my 'exit affair', (had never heard that term till I came on here), he was the one that gave me courage to leave a very bad marriage. I was the reason his wife decided to stop drinking and start paying attention and got therapy. The reason they have recommitted to their relationship (funny).

So, yes there are others here who know exactly what you are on about. I am sorry for the guilt some of the bloggers are trying to make you feel, that happened to me on another post, you don't need to explain yourself to them, all you need to do is look after yourself now. You have to learn to forgive yourself. My self esteem is still in the toilet, I have decided to give up on being in a relationship for a very long time. I need to love myself, and to feel valuable in my own right before I allow myself to be with someone else. But it is hard though, especially when I start to miss him, even though I know he is building a brand new family home for his family and moving forward with his life, and I was just the entertainment, the therapy even. You are not a bad person, yes, what we did was wrong, but that doesn't make us wrong people, just people who made the wrong choice. We actually suffer far more than people realise, we allowed ourselves to get into this position, and the same poor self esteem that got us here, now beats us up for being here, and obstructs our way from moving forward from here. But you can and you will, and you will be a better, more empathic person for it who has gained a great understanding of the human condition, that we too are not immune to weakness and temptation, no matter how good we try to be or how different it is from how we ever thought we would behave.

Best of luck to you

RubyPink · 13/06/2011 22:46

Great post JoAlone

daisypopps · 12/10/2011 12:29

Back to mn after some time away and wondering whether you managed to cut contact op?

Did you tell his gf the truth? I still think she deserves to know.

widdles · 12/10/2011 12:49

I have been both the ow and been cheated on so can see this from both perspectives. I would agree to meet her but only speak when she asks you to. Thant way you will be telling the truth without endulging in revenge with gory details.

my ex's wife asked to meet me so i agreed, he too had first denied anything and then said there wasn't much in it just a kiss here and there. She contacted me without him knowing and wanted my story, i answered questions directly and honestly without giving into the urge to put him down and divulge too much as she really didn't need to hear it all.

She confronted him and took him back but within weeks he had left her for a mutual friend of ours who he is still with now.

Honestly is always the best policy

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str8tothepoint · 07/03/2014 11:22

No point beating yourself up about it when he's just a cunt. Tell her what she needs to know and no more contact,

If you know her email address or mobile then send it that way. I had constant invites from his DP to meet but had told her everything via email. Friends and family warned me not to meet her as she is out for possible revenge so don't let a option of abuse be possible.

Your much better without this pathetic excuse of a man in your life, deserves everything coming his way

meditrina · 07/03/2014 11:27

Th thread is nearly 3 years old.

But if OP is still around and not too jolted by its reanimation, it would be interesting to know how things worked out.

coffeewithcreamm · 07/03/2014 11:28

This thread is old as Methusela

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