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Raging Mother grabbed steering wheel of my car on motorway, nearly killed us.... feeling a bit blue

62 replies

hopefull55 · 16/04/2011 08:12

Hi. Dont really know who to talk to in real life becuase what do you say. long journey home from difficult visit with relatives, my ds age 1 in back. he is crying alot, cant settle, usual long car journey thing (for us anyway, we dont drive much and were in a small hire car). mum, who is very difficult, cant really explain how difficult other than saying years of tantrums, physical fights with strangers, car related rage as a passenger or driver, she has no friends, always ruins relationships, always argues to the point of police involvement with neighbours, very difficult towards me especially since i got married and had a baby, very controlling, also very loving and lots of emotional blackmail etc etc.

the reason i was driving is becuase i wont get in a car with her that she is driving after years of being terrorised by reckless driving when she 'loses it' on the motorway. granny (her mum) is dying whcih is why it was necessary for us to make the long journey together. thought she would be able to put my son's needs above hers and be calm in the car. this is why i took the decision to drive with her in the car - and it is unpredictable, she is not always like this. i had refused to go in her car which she was angry about, thus the hire car.
anyway - She was getting more stressed with the crying on the motorway so i suggested i pull over to soothe him or give him some milk and asked if she thought it was safe on the hard shoulder as the motorway was curving and i wouldnt choose to stop there. she completely flipped out, screaming about the crying and that he had to shut up but i had to get her home and if i tried to stop she would grap the wheel -i was saying mum please, he's a baby, put him first, calm down, your frightening me and him - so i gues i was slowing down maybe 65- 70, but it was all happening really quickly -i had been doing 80 and i was in middle lane - and then she grabbed the wheel, and the car went across the lanes, i dont know which way, all i know is i had to right the car and it nearly swerved into either the central reservation or the hard lane side, i dont know which, but it went all over the road.
its not an exaggeration to say that she reallky did nearly kill us - if a car had been over or undertaking us, if i hadnt righted the car in time, i just feel sick everytime i think of it and as im typing my hands are sweaty and im shaking.

i just dont really know where to go next with this.

ill carry on and say what happened - i managed to get the car onto the hard shoulder, jump out of my side of the car, grab the keys and my handbag, run round the side and tell her to stay away from me while i got my son out, who was hysterical, my poor poor child. i just wanted to protect him from this kind of thing, i feel terrible i exposed him to it. i told her to keep back, as i thought she was going to attack me. i offered her the car and said we would hitch, but the upshot was i left her on the side of the motor way and called the police to let them know she was there and i was worried for her safety. she got a bus, i dont know how to a train station and got home from there. it was 9pm by this point, so i did feel bad leaving her but i couldnt possibly have her back in the car after what she had done, i had to think of my son.

im sitting here on saturday morning before my son wakes up- where do i go from here, do i cut her out of my life completely, i cant cope with this kind of thing, i dont want it any more, im an adult, i dont need it, etc etc. she traumatised me all my childhood with rages and then huge amounts of love and affection and i just want a stable life for me and my family. but then i dont have much family and she is there for me. and i do love her, very strong bond - im estranged from my father, brother brain damaged following motorbike accident, extended family not close, granny dying. i do have friends but since the baby i dont socialise as much, whcih i miss.

any wise words would be really really welcome. i just feel so lost.

OP posts:
SpringchickenGoldBrass · 17/04/2011 14:55

The thing is, this woman has clearly been a bullying shitbag all her life. If her actions have led to police involvement before now (you mention rows with neighbours and physical assaults as well as dangerous driving) she probably has quite a record. I would recommend informing the police of the full story and cutting her out of your life as much as possible.

Scruffyhound · 17/04/2011 18:04

First I think pulling onto the hard sholder was thr right thing to do its was an emergancy after your mum flipped out. If you had carried on driving then it could of been worse. So you did the right thing. My dad is mentally ill I can say I have had some testing times and again there is not much family around so it was me dealing with the sections and the appointments. All I can say is that your mum is not well. She needs a evaluation off a psycologist its really hard to do your self but I did it with my dad it took months to get an appointment I did and the words schitzophrenia came out of the psycologists mouth I was so upset but alos happy we had a diagnosis to work on. Dad is still unwell but medication has helped and he has not been sectioned for 3 years now. it was getting to once a year for about 7 years. What Im trying to say is your mum needs help dont ever put her in the car iwth you DS again its not a good idea. I did not let my dad see my DS until I knew dad was ok. DS now sees his grandad and likes to. Im sure there is help for your mum out there you cant carry on like this forever its going to do your head in as well. I think ringing the police is pointless as its happened now and its done but I do think a phonecall to a charity like MIND or another mental illlness charity might be a good idea. Along with a chat to your doctor or your mums doctor. Also the local hospital will have a team that could maybe section her for 48 hours to see how she is. Its not nice doing it but trust me you and your mum will be better off in the long run.

Vicky2011 · 17/04/2011 23:34

She tried to kill you and your child.

Call the police, call her GP and get that woman out of your life.

A close relative of mine has serious mental health issues so I don't say this lightly but I really think in this case it is that simple.

Get her out of your life.

Morloth · 18/04/2011 03:38

You need to stay away from her.

If you put your DS into her company again you will be taking a huge risk with his safety and life.

She tried to kill him.

It doesn't actually matter why she did that, mental health or not.

Her problems must not be allowed to endanger your DS.

If you feel you must still be involved with her then at the very least make sure he is safe and kept away.

What if she succeeds next time?

Scruffyhound · 18/04/2011 15:25

I think you need to contact a mental health team at the hospital get some advise. Explain what happened or contact a charity. Get some advise. Under no circumstances take you DS with you if you see her again. I did not take my DS anywhere near my dad until I knew dad was ok. People wih mental health issues and depends on what they are do need support. It was soo hard with my dad. I cried. it was like loosing my dad as I knew him then being replaced by this stranger who did not care much. But inbetween thses episodes my dad would come back or he woud try to fight it away. It was so upsetting. I remember seeing my dad for the first time after he was sectioned he was drugged up to the eyeballs and dopey I had to see him so he knew I knew he was in the hospital. My heart sank and I did wonder if I had done the right thing. He had years of drugs and tablets that did not suit. We have now gone to injections and he is so much better and no more sectioning. My dad is back and my DS has his grandad. I think maybe with the right help your mum might get better. Its a long road and very very upsetting Im not going ot lie. There were times when I gave up and needed a break. But you could maybe start the ball rolling if nothing else. Is she a danager to others and her self or does she just do thses things in front of you? It does need something doing I think the docs/hospital or a charity is the way to go. You could cut her out of your life I tried that with my dad I could not do it. I felt bad about it. I had counciling about it nearly ended up joining my dad in hospital!!! I hope you get peace of mind what ever you decide. Good Luck. If you want any support Just drop me a line.

KatieScarlett2833 · 18/04/2011 16:31

You did everything right. Well done for calling police and doing whatever you had to do to make you and your baby safe. Writing to her GP is also a very loving thing to do. You have nothing to apologise for, you are a great Mum and daughter. I expect you will never allow yourselves to be in such a vulnerable position again with your ill Mum, which is sad, but your instincts to protect your baby at all costs is spot on.

Sending you an extremely un-mumsnetty hug and virtual chocolate.

lucyindisguise · 18/04/2011 16:33

Im so sorry you experienced this

she is seriously unhinged

LeQueen · 18/04/2011 17:47

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FlamingJamie · 18/04/2011 18:14

OP I'd say get some support for yourself once this crisis is over. this is already bringing up stuff for you about your own childhood.

Best Wishes.

perfectstorm · 18/04/2011 22:55

Quite apart from the fact she almost killed your baby, she traumatised him profoundly. I agree that this is something that needs to go to the police, because if they do need to section her then it will help.

Your son should not have a relationship with her, full stop. If he has one then she will at some point emotionally abuse him. She is plainly incapable of anything else.

I'm so sorry. This is horrible. I feel for you very much.

Mymymble · 18/04/2011 23:23

This happened to me about 8 years ago - really, exactly the same though not with such a life-threatening finale. My mum was angry because when there wasn't any particular kind of doughnuts at a shop my DS1 decided he's rather not have anything to eat (he really wan't having hissy fit - was a rational & quiet decison). I have never driven with her in the car since other than 2 miles max in the city/village v slow & worried and never will which means she's missed out on loads of good family occasions. I have let her drive my kids - never any problems when she is in charge of the wheel. I would do what I did. She still doesn't realise the consequences to her of her action but so what - the kids and I are ok. Your m has serious anger management issues but it is not necessarily the right decision to take this further now.

Mymymble · 18/04/2011 23:34

The rest - suggest you look up narcissistic personality disorder. Realised when I researched it that NPD was my mum to a t. Still in contact with my m but have drawn boundaries to protect myself - lots to do with m & me, not particularly to do with awful A2xx experience.

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