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Bipolarrelationship · 12/11/2010 21:10

Hi all, need some good old mumsnet advice here - hopefully between you there is a wealth of advice and experience for me to use to help my situation, I'll try to briefly explain.

(Im a regular who has name changed btw)

I have met a lovely man at work. We get on well, he's very sweet and well liked and we have flirted lots. He asked me out, we went out, had a fantastic time, laughs and giggles a plenty. We kissed lots and Blush got a little raunchy as we said goodbye. Then he text me a few times saying he'd had a great night, can't wait til next time etc - whilst at work we have been discreet but still very friendly, lots of smiles and sexy glances etc.

We then went on a second date with some mutual friends and he was like a different person, not tactile, no giggles etc. I thought perhaps he had been having a bad day. We ended the night with him actually crying then getting angry with me for trying to cuddle him then he got more upset and apologised repetitively and hugged me as he felt so bad for getting cross with me. I was very confused to say the least and left feeling a little giddy.

He then text me the next day to say he had something he had to tell me (I was thinking married, gay, has an std etc) but it was to tell me he has mental health problems. He is bi polar and says he has severe mood swings and struggles with it constantly. I asked why he told me and he said I needed to know if we were going to be seeing each other as more than friends and he told me he hasn't felt like this about someone for a long time Smile. He hasnt told anyone else that we know, and nobody at work so I felt special he chose me to tell and keep his secret, it was so hard for him to tell me too - which is partly why I know he really does like me.

So, all seemed well. Him being bipolar didn't bother me, no more than of he had a physical health problem would really. But since then he's been odd. We've been fine whilst at work, chatting and laughing as usual but when I asked him about going out again he said he really likes me and thought it'd be ok, but he hasn't tried a relationship with anyone for years and he thought he could handle it mentally but now realises he can't - although he really likes me he feels it could harm us both mentally if he were to get into a relationship.

I just don't know what to do Sad I have no idea how being bipolar makes people feel or behave. I don't know whether I should try and persuade him that I'm not some crazy girl looking to screw with his head and that I genuinely do like him for him and offer again to go out for dinner but to keep things relaxed and take time. Or perhaps he knows what he is and isn't mentally able for and I should just respect that and bow out of this one. It just seems such a shame, a few weekssvago he was so interested and told me so many times how much he liked me, how we clicked and how much he enjoyed our time together, he was so eager to meet up and go out.

So... anyone got any ideas, Id love to hear them, especially if you are bi polar or have dated someone who is. What is best to do? Is he just naturally negative and worried about things going wrong which then makes him not take chances with getting hurt (which is what I suppose we do each and every time we get close to someone).

Will I totally mess with his head if I leave it a couple of weeks and ask him out for dinner?

I never get confused about guys - but this one has my head spinning...

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handmedownqueen · 13/11/2010 18:29

I have bipolar and have been with my husband for 20 years with minimal problems. Maybe mines not that severe but it is possible

one thought I had is when you go a bit high you get a bit disinhibited, both sexually and with what information you share with people. Initially when you met him maybe he was a bit high? Now he is not high maybe he is just not that into you? Certainly I have made sexual overtures at men I really don't find attractive when I'm not high

I think you should just leave it, you've told him the BPD isn't a barrier to you having a relationship to you. Wait and see if he comes back

hairytriangle · 13/11/2010 19:35

I think there's a really big difference between a Bipolar person who self medicates (by drinking and taking drugs to excess) and has severe mood swings, and a Bipolar person who has good management of their condition (through whatever means).

I think it's important to remember also that Bipolar is not a simple condition - it's a condition that ranges considerably, eg: rapid cycling, bipolar A and B, etc. So people's symptoms, moods, behaviour, aggression and ability to manage will be drastically distant.

If it helps, OP, your guy sounds like someone with quite a severe condition, and who does not manage it very well. In your shoes, with the hindsight of my own experience, I'd run a mile.

hairytriangle · 13/11/2010 19:35

woops. drastically

Bipolarrelationship · 13/11/2010 19:46

Thanks again guys. I have had a good read up on bipolar now and have taken everything you have said into consideration.

I don't feel like I want to rescue/save him, I just like him and we have a great time when we're together. Yes, handmedownqueen, perhaps you are right- That night he was ever so OTT, very hyper, happy, made me a bit giddy in fact! However, he has said to me numerous times since then that he hasn't felt this way about anyone for so long and he only shared his secrets about his mental health problems with me as he said it was right for me to know if we were going to start seeing each other as more than friends.

Anywho - I will be seeing him next week at work and he has said he'll call me for a little chat over the weekend about a few things, I'll let you all know what happens.

My head says run (the drugs are mainly to blame for this - however, I still don't know for sure that he does anything other than smoke cannabis, it's more just a hunch) but my heart says stay and try with him.

x

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hairytriangle · 13/11/2010 19:49

Good luck, whatever your decision , only you will know what's right for you.

PS: one small caviat - no such thing as 'only' cannabis, my ex smoked (and still does) a lot of skunk every night - he is truly addicted and it causes a lot of problems - apart from knocking his brain about so that he can't think straight, very unhelpful when he already struggles!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/11/2010 20:14

Hi bipolar,

re your comment:-
"My head says run (the drugs are mainly to blame for this - however, I still don't know for sure that he does anything other than smoke cannabis, it's more just a hunch) but my heart says stay and try with him".

Would have to say head over heart every time particularly as you have an 8 year old daughter to consider as well.

Tha last part of your sentence to me sounds like rescuing and or saving. He is a person in his own right and not your pet project to try and rescue and or save from his own self.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/11/2010 20:17

You also wrote this earlier of him:-

"I believe he uses drugs to control his ups and downs- amphetamines and cannabis, so self medicating in a way. This would be a problem for me as drugs are a no no in this house".

Listen to your head, not your heart here.

Bipolarrelationship · 13/11/2010 21:11

Thanks Hairy and Atilla.

Hairy - the cannabis doesn't bother me too much, unless it's out of hand smoking, which I don't believe it is as he never smokes on work days, only days off and as far as I can tell only then he's in a manic phase to try and calm himself down.

Atilla - I have done exactly that when I was younger, met someone that I wasn't as my little project, someone to fix and make happy. But this is different. I'm going to try and concentrate on him and being good friends for now I think, I just don't want everything to be about him being bi polar, when really it's just a small part of him.

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Bipolarrelationship · 14/11/2010 15:57

Well I sent him a little text last night, kept it nice and neutral, no pressure no hassle type thing - just asking something boring about work and seeing how he was. No reply as yet. But he seems to be one for replying days later, calling at 3/4am for a normal everyday chat, cancelling plans (that he has suggested and made) at the last minute and wanting to make plans at the last minute too. (I assume this is because his mood changes so quickly, or he could just be an inconsiderate twat).

I don't think I'm cut out for being with someone like that. I'm so black and white, like things nice and easy and it feels like he plays games (when I suppose it could be the bipolar, or again, he could just be a twat).

Ah well, will see him at work next week and no doubt he'll be all lovely and sweet and wanting to chat and have a laugh with me.. which is good I suppose.

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Eurostar · 14/11/2010 18:26

bipolar - if you've been reading up on the condition you should have read by now that weed is an absolute no no for bi-polar people. Regular smoking shows a lack of commitment on his part to manage his condition at best and denial of his condition at worst. It's like someone with a heart problem stuffing saturated fats regularly.

poshsinglemum · 14/11/2010 18:31

The drugs alone would make me run here; bipolar or not. Cannabis is not a ''soft'' drug. Do you want your 8 year old to be around a stoner?

TDaDa · 14/11/2010 19:18

I have one friend and a distant uncle who are both bi-polar. They both have long, stable and happy marriages. Both have had one big "bout" over the last 10 years in which I have been involved in helping them to settle. But they are both excellent fathers and DHs.

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