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So my instincts were right and now I am crumbling

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FeelSoLost · 03/11/2010 06:18

Firstly, please if you recognise me don't out me. I think people in RL know my proper chat name on here and I don't feel able to post under it.

3 months ago I discovered my husband had been having, at the very least, and emotional affair. He said it was over etc, yadda yadda yadda. We tried to work through it. dd was only 9 weeks old at the time (we have a lot more than one)

Then about 2 weeks ago I found bits to a new phone set up (empty sim card pack, end off a new phone box with the IMEI number on it and a top up swipe card). I confronted him about it, he said firstly it was off an old phone then a few hours later said he might have found it at work. I didn't believe him. He went to live at his parents for a week to give me some space. He came back sunday night but said he didn't know how he felt about me or if he wanted to be with me anymore anyway.

During that time he was away, I did some digging (underhand tactics I daresay it should be called) and found out the phone number. I tried ringing it a couple of times. Turned off. Then monday when he was here, he disappeared off to the toilet. Gone over 20 minutes. So I tried ringing it...it rang...and he answered it.. Shock I didn't say anything and eventually he hung up. Monday night he decides he does love me and wants to make it work. I brushed him off.

Then yesterday morning he was acting all weird, trying to get out to the car all the time without me seeing. Even when i sent him on the school run he snuck round the back of the house and I caught him rifling through the boot. (all his stuff is still in there from before) So while he was on the school run, I went and found the spare car key. I had a route around but could only find the charger to a phone which was the same make as the stuff I had found the other week. I left it there. Then I rang the phone company. I had made a note of all the numbers I had before I confronted him with them. I registered the phone in a fake name and with a passcode for the account, then while he was on the afternoon school run I rang up and with my new fake details, told them that my daughter had been using my phone and could they give me the last months usage breakdown....one number... text, after text after text. Day after day after day. Some from that morning. The same number as he was contunously texting the first time he got found out. So I rang him while he was on the school run and told him that when he gets home, to not say a word to me, to pack his bags and to go cos I knew everything.

I rang the OW (who pleaded with me last time that it she was sorry and she had tried to get too close to him and shouldn't have tried to kiss him) and she hung up on me. When it came to leaving yesterday, H started crying and trying to tell me he loves me, that I am the most important thing to him (whatever!!...). I have told him it's too late. He wanted to come back last night to talk but I said no way. (mil text me late last night to say he had turned up there to stay so at least he's not gone running to her, depending on where he had been before that of course!)

We are still going to our counselling session tonight as it's already paid for, and I suppose at least it will be neutral territory. I don't think I will believe a word that comes out of his mouth anyway. I don't care if they are still only just friends or if they slept together, at the end of the day, he has lied. Over and over. Considering it was supposed to be over, he went out of his way to stay in touch with her.

I am not sure I can be strong though. I have lost 11lb in weight since a week last sunday. I can't sleep, anything I do eat goes straight through me. The baby is only a few months old now. The others are taking it all very well considering. I don't know what to do. How can I look after this many kids on my own?!....Sad

OP posts:
FeelSoLost · 03/11/2010 06:18

sorry that was a mammoth post. Thankyou if you managed to read it!!

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MUHAHAHADascheese · 03/11/2010 06:33

Oh Love, I don't know what to say I'm so sorry and I didn't want to read and run.

Bloody men.

You can do ANYTHING, once this isn't draining you you will see you've actually got one less child to look after.

Take care of yourself and if you really can't manage food, try those nutrition type drinks - they taste pretty vile and if anything will send you running for a big pile of chips and cheese, they will.

I'll be back later.

VictoriasLittleKnownSecret · 03/11/2010 06:58

What Muhahahahaha said. You will feel better when you have shed this load that you are carrying. The next few months will be difficult but the rest of your life would be difficult if you kept him!

You will be ok

HecateQueenOfWitches · 03/11/2010 07:18

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

I am filled with admiration for your strength. He has treated you with contempt. when you feel weak, just remember that nobody who loves you (I mean truly loves you) would have treated you like he did, not once but twice - or even never stopped once you found out, who knows?! and that it is not worth pining for someone who doesn't love or respect you.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 03/11/2010 09:43

I think the horrible truth here OP is that this full-blown affair never stopped and you have been fed a complete pack of lies throughout.

I would use the counselling session tonight to focus on how to part with the least acrimony, as far as the DCs are concerned. I can't remember if you ever consulted a solicitor for legal advice, or the CAB for information about the help you might be entitled to raising a large family.

I think once you are free of the suspicion and have taken control, it will be like a weight lifted from you. Try to focus on you now and do please visit your GP and tell your HV what has been going on. You have actually been the victim of emotional abuse.

FlameGrilledMama · 03/11/2010 10:13

Sad I am really sorry for your situation op.

FeelSoLost · 03/11/2010 10:25

he rang me this morning. I told him i wanted him to come round NOW and use that phone to text her to say whatever is going on between them is over (not that it would change anything i just wanted to see if he would do it!)... 45 minutes later (30 seconds in the car it should have been) and he isn't here. Hmm He rang me then to say that she had rung him saying I was texting her and she can't be doing with the hassle so she doesn't want anything more to do with him Hmm Lucky her. tut. Convenient as well seeing as I had just asked him to text her and say it was over...I heard that it was over last time. I don't care if they slept together or not anymore. The fact is, he went and carried on keeping in touch with her and hiding it when they both insisted to me that it was over. That she was sorry and was out of our lives. So then he turned up here. Saying he was an arse. And crying. Saying that he still wants to go to the session tonight. Might as well go cos I've paid for it already and I will lose my money if I don't.

Hecate thank you. I don't feel very strong to be honest. I really don't.

Flamegrilled thank you. There is only one person who needs to be sorry really in all this.

WhenwillIfeelnormal I haven't consulted anyone yet. I don't want to go to the GP or anything yet, I don't want them shoving me on ADs when I probably don't really need them at the moment.

Thank you MUHAHAHADascheese and victorias too.

I really want to believe that he is sorry, cos after 13 years it will be hard. But I don't think I ever will and I can't live like that. It's not fair on me and it's not fair on the kids. He still insists it was just texting. I told him it looked even worse now he has done this.

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gettingeasier · 03/11/2010 10:37

FeelSoLost what an awful way to treat someone who has a small baby Sad. Who are all his tears for , himself probably.

I would go to the counselling and take it from there.

Have you got RL life support because that makes such a difference especially with a big family.

Sending you hugs and strentgh

FlameGrilledMama · 03/11/2010 10:49

Yoy sound very strong FeelsoLost. I can't offer any advice but you seem to be dealing with this in a brilliant way must be so hard especially with a young baby to care for Sad

Hullygully · 03/11/2010 10:52

He is an utter arse. Good for you. Don't let him back, when the trust is gone, it's gone.

Tootlesmummy · 03/11/2010 10:59

I remember your earlier posts and I know how hard it was for you. He is being an arse and you need take time to consider what is best for you and your children.

I won't say you should do this or that but if you don't feel you can trust him then you're right not to take him back and you will cope. It might be hard but you'll regain your confidence and things will improve.

Take time though to be kind to yourself.

gettingeasier · 03/11/2010 10:59

FeelSo I have reread your op . Do you have family nearby or someone who could move in for a bit and give you a hand with practical stuff re the dc? Dont worry if routines hit the fan for a bit while you try and deal with this , ready made meals,takeaways or sandwiches are fine.

Do ask people for help because ime if you look like you are managing ok people will assume you are

itsallmadness · 03/11/2010 11:00

Feelsolost, your post sounds exactly like one I may have written myself. I went through pretty much the same thing, finding a phone, calling the phone company. DH crying etc.

I feel for you, for the lack of respect he has for you. Be strong and stick with your instincts.

Look after yourself.

FlopsyTops · 03/11/2010 11:20

What a b@stard.

I have no advice as such but I would echo what a pp said, if you have family that can help you then do so, don't be afraid to ask for help. They will want to help you.

Look after yourself, the children need you. If eating is hard try just eating very small amounts but often, it won't be such a shock to your empty gut.

I wish I had something useful to say.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 03/11/2010 11:37

In my experience, they're not sorry.

they're sorry they got caught.

Different thing altogether.

Funny how they can betray us - actually go to such lengths to cover up their betrayal of us, and when we find out, then they're sorry and desperate to stay. Hmm If they hadn't been caught?...

sunflower1234 · 03/11/2010 11:48

so sorry to read this - if you took him back you would never trust him.

since coming on here i really cannot believe how many blokes betray the people they are meant to love!!!
and whether they have done anything or not - it is betrayal.

on a positive note - at least he is crying and still wanting you. at least you can keep a bit of satisfaction there.
i think it would be a lot worse for you if he wanted to go off with her??

whatever happens - be strong and good luck xxx

ChaoticAngel · 03/11/2010 11:59

FeelSoLost I'm so sorry to hear this Sad

I don't really have anything new to add, I just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you.

LittleMissHissingFirecracker · 03/11/2010 12:32

Hecate says what I thought. wise bird, her!

FeelSoLost, you may not actually feel strong, but actually you are immensely powerful. We can all see that!

Insist he calls her, and tells her it's over, in front of you. then punch him

go to the counselling, it might help talk it out.

MUHAHAHADascheese · 03/11/2010 12:46

at the end of the day it doesn't really matter if he texts her to say it's all over, will you be sure it won't start again?

Use the counselling time to focus on how you need to move forward.

Be totally selfish and keep strong - I do understand you're devastated at the moment, but the will pass quicker than you imagine.

Take care - did you manage to eat anything yet?

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 03/11/2010 12:49

I can only hope that the counsellor is challenging tonight and helps you to see what the people on this thread can see quite clearly. The tears you are seeing are entirely about getting caught and the damage this will cause to his life, not yours.

He's not even trying to be honest with you and tell you the whole, horrible story. Please don't forget what those texts you read said and how obvious it was that they were in physical contact. Re-read your original thread today, if you've got any doubts about what was really happening.

You have uncovered lie, after lie, after lie.

Ending this relationship in front of you means absolutely nothing - they have both lied to you in the past about this affair. I expect any phone calls you witness now will be a complete pretence, cooked up by the pair of them to get you off their backs.

nougatness · 03/11/2010 13:17

I just want to say that you are very smart and sensible in the ways that you have got to the bottom of the lies, so have faith in yourself that you have all the skills you need to get ahead in life without him and his bullshit.

feistychickfightingthebull · 03/11/2010 13:44

Sorry to hear this OP, it is heartbreaking. Stay strong and do not fall for the tears, he is only crying because he got caught. Thinking of you

Mummalish · 03/11/2010 14:06

So, so sorry. I am going through a similar thing right now. Just horrible, you can't explain fully how it feels.

Anytime you need to, please send me a message. xxx

Jux · 03/11/2010 14:29

What an utter bloody shite. I'm so sorry this has happened. Git git git, bastard bastard git.

You are doing really brilliantly. I hope you stay strong through your session this evening. Remember, it doesn't really matter what he says or does during it as it's too late for anything to actually have an affect. You're right, the bastard git bastard has lied and lied and lied, and in the face of that you cannot do other than kick him out, wash your hands of him.

BTW, it's alright to be miserable and sad, you have things to be miserable and sad about, so I don't think you need ADs either.

Thinking of you.

nemofish · 03/11/2010 21:03

Can't help feeling that now The Cheating Twat has gone, that makes some room for the dust to settle, for you to recover, for the dc to get used to seeing Dad living apart from mum, and for eventually a really lovely bloke (or maybe a laydee, hey let's not assume!) to ask you out on a date... I know you probably can't imagine that until your youngest is in school, but trust me you'll get there...

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