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Have I done the right thing in leaving him??

52 replies

KittyCatIsGettingFat · 04/10/2010 08:46

MNers, I'm scared and lonely and need your collective wisdom please...
Yesterday I left my Dh after a string of incidents that have left me feeling crushed... He has proven time and ag that he can't be trusted and yesterday the last of my love for him died! I have slept on it (at my dads house) and feel the same today, but want toknow if I'm not being too harsh on him - seeing as we both come from divorces, I'd want yo know I'm making the right decision... So here's the summary of what's happened.

first thing that should have triggered something was finding him on an online dating site, corresponding with a lady and arranging to meet, after we'd been married less than a week... I forgave him.

Two weeks after DDs birth, BF is Sooooo hard, we're really struggling to get the latch correct... And I find out that he's been giving her bottles at night... Poor little girl was so confused about how to suck! I was furious because he hasn't listened to what the midwives said re nipple confusion( said it was a load of rubbish)
I forgave him, because he said he was only trying to
help.

When I was diagnosed with severe PND, and was struggling to come to terms with having to take th medication, he took it upon himself to email my entire family and his telling them about it, and asking my dad for money for a cleaner as I couldn't cope! I was crushed that he'd do something so thoughtless when I'd asked him to keep it between us two until I was ready to tell everyone.

A few weeks ago I'd arrAnged to go see the Pope in Hyde Park. I was really excited and it meant a lot to take DD to meet him, because as a child I'd met John Paul II and it is one of my most special memories. Wed been in the park for an hour when DH decided, without telling me, that he wasn't enjoying himself . He picked up DD and walked out of the one-way entrance, leaving me inside with the buggy, bags, and a sense of anger for not having seen the Pope after coming all that way. I forgave him because he said he was uncomfortable with all the religion (he's a non-practising catholic) but we agreed to talk in future to avoid a repeat.

A few months ago we went on holiday and my dad lent us his credit card for emergencies. DH accidentaly used this card to make a large withdrawal of cash- and then forgot about it when we were home. Cue mydad having big arguments with his bank about a withdrawal thatnever happened, refusing to pay the charges etc because we thought it was a fraudulent transaction- until DH said 'oh yeah, it might have been me' but by that time 30 years worth of perfect credit record has been ruined, and dads credit limit has been reduced from 45k to 2k!! And DH refuses to apologise !

DH works very hard while I SAHM our 17 mo. Because of this. I do 97% of the childcAre and subsequently research and read a lot about different parenting methods, before implementing them. This weekend, however, DH Accused me of abusing DD because I disciplined Her for hitting- using the timeout method! He refused to read any of the material I have to support this; but can't give me any reasons except 'it's scarring her for life' . I get no support from him re discipline etc at all.

So we get to yesterday- I need torun to the shop because we're out of everything but it's pouring with rain so I say to him, 'you stay home and dry with DD and I'll be back quickly'. He wanted to go too, never mind that DD would have gotten soaked, but he didn't tell me how badly he wanted to go or why. So I went. And came back withthe shopping to find that he'd cut her hair. To spite me. Her first haircut. When I lost it he said he wanted to cut it because his dad always cut
his hair- fair enough but he knew I was taking her for a cut that week, and was going to make a special occasion out of it, but was so angry at me for going to the shop he took it out on DD. Her lovely rnglets have been hacked off and she looks like she's been attacked with a machete... When I tried to tell him how hed made m feel he callEd me crazy and said I should gO back on the medication... At that point I packed a bag and left with Dd.

So ami being too harsh or have I done the right thing? I know each incident is relatively minor but put together there's a pattern of insensitivity and nastiness that I can't ignore any more... I cAn take a lot of crap but when he starts to use our beautiful daughter as a weapon against me, I draw the line...
What do I do nExt?

Ps pls excuse typing- iPhone!!

OP posts:
Schulte · 04/10/2010 21:26

Kitty I don't know what to say but wanted to send some more FW vibes. It will all be right in the end xxx

RespectTheDoughnut · 04/10/2010 21:26

I am not going to derail another thread with you.

I said that I know of you, which was in contrast to me saying that I know Kitty. & yes, I am a feminist. As most people with any intelligence and / or compassion are. It is not an insult & you only make yourself look daft by repeatedly trying to use it as one. Now my Twat Blinkers are going on & that's all I'm saying on the matter.

Meglet · 04/10/2010 21:30

On that evidence then, yes, you are doing the right thing by leaving him.

Imagine another 5 / 10 / 25 years with someone like that Sad.

Madascheese · 05/10/2010 08:09

Thinking of you Kitty - hope you're coping.

RTD - the thing footlong really does say feminist as if it's a 'bad thing'.

Bless.

EmpressOfTheUniverseReality · 05/10/2010 08:18

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

AnyFucker · 05/10/2010 08:25

Kitty, I am so sorry

You are married to an absolute twat, and it is that fact (abuse or not) that means it is OK for you to leave him.

However, you do realise now that things are going to get worse for a while, not better. Please be prepared for this. There is already "form" for him using the child against you (the hair cutting incident) so he is going to play dirty and possibly use the PND/medication route to persuade you that you are an unfit mother (you are not) and threaten to take the baby away from you.

He cannot do this. Do not think that he can.

But you are going to have to be strong, because if you cave in to the blackmail, this is what your life is going to be like.

BTW...the online dating and arranging to meet another woman should have been the alarm bell you required.

You have given him enough chances to be a decent partner. He doesn't deserve any more.

PuzzleRocks · 05/10/2010 10:00

Kitty darling, another FW here who misses you. I'm so sorry to hear you are dealing with this crap.
Only you can know what the right decision is but based on what you have told us I believe you were absolutely right to leave.
You last paragraph bothered me though. "I can take a lot of crap" That may be so, but why the hell should you? You are a funny, vibrant, intelligent, beautiful woman.

I wish you all the love and strength you need. And I want you to come hang out with us again as soon as you feel ready.

B52s · 05/10/2010 12:44

Hugs, Kitty.

AuldAlliance · 05/10/2010 14:18

Kitty, you have done the right thing. You just need to believe in yourself for a bit longer, so that he doesn't undermine you too much.

Stay strong.

LittleMissHissyFit · 05/10/2010 19:26

Christ on a Bike kitty! I sat there reading, from the 3rd paragraph in with my mouth agape!

Honey, believe me he sounds unhinged, and he'd screw you up in time, he is a liability and will never,ever be able to be an effective parent.

he is devious, controlling, and sneaky.

You are well shot of him, as the time goes on, you will see how joyous it is to not live on egg shells the whole time...

You have made the best decision of your life, hang onto it and don't ever look back.

KittyCatIsGettingFat · 05/10/2010 21:35

Hi lovely ladies...

So here's the scoop - and please don't flame me! - after 6 hours of talking today we're going for counselling and giving it another go... this is NOT for him, or for the sake of DD, but for me - because I know from my Mum how hard being a single Mum can be, so am giving it one more go for my sake.
However, one major thing has changed - the balance of power now lies with me! i KNOW i have the strength to leave if I have to, and Heaven knows I'll do it again if he so much as sniffs in the wrong direction... This is his last chance, he accepts that, and we'll see how it pans out. IF, in a months time, I'm still dealing with the same childish, selfish, insensitive an disrespectful s*&t, then I can walk away with no regrets!

He may be an idiot, but he's my idiot... Grin

OP posts:
Doha · 05/10/2010 21:38

oh dear Sad Sad

But best of luck anyway

AnyFucker · 05/10/2010 21:56

we will be here when, and if you need us, kitty x

all the best x

BoffinMum · 05/10/2010 23:01

Ah Sad

LittleMissHissyFit · 05/10/2010 23:37

So he talked at you until you agreed to go to counselling?

As AF says, we are not going anywhere anytime soon and will be here for you however, whenever and whatever you need.

You need to set a strict time line on this, and if there is any repeat of the behaviour you have described, all bets are off! OK???

stay close eh?

Footlong · 06/10/2010 01:24

Respectthedonut -

I am not going to derail another thread with you.

Maybe you should think before you make snide posts directed at me then. although it is classic from your type to make a catty comment, wait for a repsonse and then say claim the moral high ground.

yes, I am a feminist. As most people with any intelligence and / or compassion are.

Fat chance.. iw ould give my definition of the feminists around here..but I wouldnt want to get banned.

colditz · 06/10/2010 01:27

You have done the right thing.

LittleMissHissyFit · 06/10/2010 01:28

Footlong/RtD:

Erm can you take this spat off somewhere else?

let it go FGS,

kitty is the one here that needs posts not you two banging heads.

colditz · 06/10/2010 01:29

oh what? You've gone BACK to him?

you twat! Why????

Why have you gone back to someone who treats you like shit?

you must be delusional if you think for a second he will change/

Madascheese · 06/10/2010 07:06

Hi Kitty.

I'm sure you've done the thing you think is best.

I promise you though, being a single Mum to one less child is much easier than always remembering to walk on eggshells, you see your battles are halved and you have one less child to accomodate.

Having said that, will be here when you're ready.

Take care of yourself and if he fails to live up to the promises, get yourself out lovely lady, you deserve better.

Good luck

SonicMiddleAge · 06/10/2010 07:39

Online dating thing - irrecoverable in my book. I'd have been gone.

The credit card theft makes no sense to me - why did you not know about it if it was a large transaction, surely when your dad said "there was a big withdrawal in spain, just when you were on hoiday there kitty" you would have recalled such a large withdrawal and mentioned it? Unclear how this one is just your dh's fault.

anyway, given the attempted infidelity (unacceptable), the other susequent things are for me by the by, but for what it's worth my take it is they are mostly understandable.

bf thing - misguided but almost certainly well intentioned
PND thing: I can really understand this. I guess depression must be excrutiating to go through, but having shared a house with a clinically depressed friend, living with someone who is depressed is a nightmare too, and I can understand he needed support as well, especially if there was a baby in the mix, unreasonable to expect him to shoulder all the burden alone
Pope thing: sounds to me like a classic case of probably two sides to this story, so won't judge
Diciple/haircut things. Do you give him the chance to be actively involved in the child's life? the way's written I have a vision of him comming home late from work, wanting to enjoy a bit of time with your daughter, and you brandishing a sheaf of "evidence" for one style of discipline and saying "read this now!" truth probably in the middle but can imagine he feels marginalised. Ditto the haircut - you wanted it to be a special occaision for you, maybe he did too.

MmeLindt · 06/10/2010 07:45

How donyou accidentally make a large cash withdrawal using someone elses credit card? Did he trip in front of the cash machine?

He disregards your feelings, ignores you, does not believe you and uses your daughter against you. Not to mention going on a dating website a week after your marriage.

You have done the right thing.

MmeLindt · 06/10/2010 07:51

Argh. Just read your last post.

Well, sweetheart it is your decision. Don't take any crap from him. Hope it goes well for you.

KittyCatIsGettingFat · 06/10/2010 14:38

Relate at 19h30 tonight... Babysitter booked... lets see what he has to say for himself!

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RespectTheDoughnut · 06/10/2010 19:31

Kitty, please be careful. I understand that you're fighting for the marriage (been there) & that sometimes it works out & you can live happily ever after. But only if the person making their spouse this unhappy changes. Please make sure that he changes before you let your guard down again. Wishing you strength & luck xx