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I'm a sad dad/husband advice please

72 replies

happy46 · 03/09/2010 10:28

Hi all,
I thought I'd try to get some perspective from people who don't know me or my wife.

Firstly sorry, if I don't use all the abbreviations, as I don't know them!!

Myself and my wife have been together for 15 years. I'm 41, she's 34

We have one son who's 12.

When my son was young my wife found it very hard, and by her own admission was depressed. I was working all the hours I could so she could stay at home, as this is what we believed was best.

She went back to work full time about 3 years ago, and has worked her way up in her firm (she's a lawyer) to a respectable position.

She works so hard, but recently she's had less and less time for me. I don't think I'm demanding, or selfish, but I love her, and want a bit of her time. I work a lot of nights, so evenings off together are rare.

A few months ago, I couldn't hold back any longer, and told her I wish she'd find some time for me. She can find time for her friends and going out drinking, but even our son had noticed we were doing nothing as a family.

So we had it out, and that got us questioning our whole relationship, which put us under a lot of strain.

As time's gone on, it's got worse. She's spending more and more time out with her friends.

When we go out, she can't go with just me, we have to meet up with our friends, and then she talks to them, more or less ignoring me. She seems to enjoy male attention a bit too much.

I believe in time out apart, and used to feel great that men fancied her. She is attractive, and I never felt threatened, as we were "solid" I never check on where she's been or who she's been talking too, as I figure, we're both allowed a bit of privacy.

I've got a great set of mates, and like nothing more than going out with them, which she is fine with, and to be fair I enjoy chatting to women in pubs/clubs etc, but never miss-behave.

When we talk, we never argue, she says she loves me, and I love her. We?ve both changed a bit in 15 years, as you would, but I can?t seem to make her happy any more.

I?ve got a lot of hobbies, I?m in a cycle club, I play for a local football team (veterans!!) so I think I?m quite balanced, and we spend some quality time?. Apart!!

I?m not scared of being on my own, or even of us splitting up, which we have spoken about, I?m just so sad that it?s all going wrong.

We?ve been through so many hard times over the years with all sorts of issues, but remained solid, I?m so upset we can?t seem to get on.

Whenever we try to talk it turns a bit heavy, and one or both of us end up crying.

I know it?s a bit of a rant, and all over the place, but I just typed it as it came into my head.

Any advice from a female perspective would be so welcome.

OP posts:
Unlikelyamazonian · 03/09/2010 19:54

OP, if this is the only place you can get advice, then you have no female friends and men like you arew simply not trustworthy.

Or real.

Or interesting.

so fuck off.

again.

Unlikelyamazonian · 03/09/2010 19:55

aegeansky
you are a wanker too.

purplepeony · 03/09/2010 19:59

unlikely who the hell are you? what's your problem? trip trap?

emmyloulou · 03/09/2010 20:00

How I read that op was, you were happy when she was wifey/mother at home. It was probably quite a shock for her if she was young, don't underestimate how isolationg it is.

Now she has left the house as such got a job and is no longer a wife and mother, you feel threatened and are throwing a strop/being a bit sulky as you want it to be about you and the family again.

You seem to have just as much as an active life away from the family as her, so maybe your nagging got on her wick, especially as you socialise outside of the family as well and this is her initial time to start doing something for her, you could have given her headspace.

Nothing will drive a woman away faster than a nag, try relate.

dignified · 03/09/2010 20:01

Yes, similar thread " loving dad ect " which was an attempt to get sympathy about his wife as they ONLY have sex once or twice a week , and guess what they went on holiday and wife bizareley didnt want sex as her brother was in the next room. Oh and he takes the bin out occasionally and some posters were in awe of this praising him ect.

Sadly some posters went along with it saying the wife was depressed , selfish ,ect. Seems he outed himself as the selfish pervy prick he really is when he offered women to pm him for sex advice.

Op, why dont you just fuck off. Your sad attempts at getting sympathy are pathetic , and its clear your after an ego boost. If i was your wife and i saw what youd written about me id divorce you.

catinthehat2 · 03/09/2010 20:06

Just read your OP, you seem so familiar.

Then I see that other people recognise you as well, so welcome back!

Nothing like a question about a female lawyer to get everyone thinking!

Grin
BettySuarez · 03/09/2010 20:08

Oh God - I don't know how I feel about this thread. I hope you are all correct about this being maddaddy Sad

dignified · 03/09/2010 20:10

If any of this is true i think your a prick, including " ive offered seperation ", did you mean threatened seperation ? Im not surprised she doesnt want to spend time with you / have sex or whatever when you think shes inferior.

Your freinds say your too good for her , why do your freinds have a bad opinion of her ? Is it down to you bitching like you have here ?

DuelingFanjo · 03/09/2010 20:15

spot on emmyloulou, if it's true of course.

Mouseface · 03/09/2010 20:46

UA - Are you ok? Haven't seen you around for a while. Smile

Sorry, as you were.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 03/09/2010 20:56

UA good to see you back.

All I can say is "you may very well think that, I couldn't possibly comment"

OP - forgive me if I don't offer to PM you!

Mouseface · 03/09/2010 21:17

Grin Chaz

happy46 · 03/09/2010 23:48

Well some interesting er comments there!

For the avoidance of doubt, this is the first and only time I've ever posted on here.

Delia, I've told her I don't like the "Status Quo". I love the fact she goes out, and love it that I do. But it's not much of a marriage if that's all we do!

Purple, when I met her I had my own flat, so was used to doing the domestic stuff. I do the most because it works? well is has up until now!!
I earn more than her, so I don't think the wage thing is an issue.

Emmy, I see what you're thinking, but we've always been "mates" too. The day we married it was like marrying my best friend as well as my lover, so I don't feel in the slightest bit threatened by her status!

As for unlikely and dignified, you find the time to insult someone who is asking for help. Says a lot about you. Ever heard of going out in the real world?? Judging by your grammar you'd probably get lost as you won't be able to read the road signs! You can continue with the insults if you like, but this is the last time I'll respond. I'm not lowering my standards to raise yours!

For those who?ve given me advice, thank you, I do appreciate your time.

OP posts:
dignified · 04/09/2010 08:58

Judging by your grammar you'd probably get lost as you won't be able to read the road signs.

Yes that happens all the time.

emmyloulou · 04/09/2010 09:15

Honestly if for real your op does come across as very, very me, me, me.

What have you offered to give up for her to help provide family time? Is it just her that is expected to give up her new found hobbies, friends, or are you going to give up some of your hobbies too?

Why after all that time at home can't you give her time to find herself again? Although it's nice what you have done working so she can be a sahm BUT you do loose your identity, put your career on hold etc. She is finding herself again for the first time in over a decade, she in not just a wife/mother anymore you need to give her head space. I really hope I don't find myself in this situation in 12 years time.

Where I will support my hubby in his career, I love being a stay at home mum, but when the time is right I want to build a future for me as a peron as well as a family.

Your post does come across as very naggy and selfish, I can see why your wife is pissed off tbh, I would be in her shoes. Infact I'd probably have left.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/09/2010 09:28

OK so, the OP works a lot of nights, goes to pubs/clubs with friends, is in a cycle club and plays football. Mrs OP works hard and spends a lot of time going out for drinks with friends.

Who on earth looks after the child?! He must wonder who his parents are, let alone where.

Hullygully · 04/09/2010 10:16

hubba hubba

happy46 · 05/09/2010 16:10

I know the post seems me me me, but it's me me me that needs the advice.

I love it that we have seperate interests, man alive it'd be a sad day when we don't.

Our son is cared for by me when my wife is out, and her when I am.

But now and again, I'd like to have to get a baby sitter so we can both go out! Is that so selfish?? If it is, then I guess I'm in the wrong marriage and should end it.

She has all the space she wants, but she's just so cold Sad

OP posts:
purplepeony · 05/09/2010 19:26

OP _ i think you have had some unfair comments here. Plenty of MNs post and it's all me, me ,me.

I don't know about you posting under another name and going over the same ground, but if you have- well,that's been done by others too.

I don't know about what you say but one thing is for sure- your wife is upset over something, she is withholding intimacy and likes not to be alone with just you when socialising.

You need to find out why.

Have you tried sitting down together- by appointment if necessary- to talk about your future?

She needs to be honest with you, and you need to listen to what she tells you.

Then take it from there.

dignified · 05/09/2010 19:33

" I've confided in a few people,(men and women) who all say, I'm too good for her, and she doesn't appreciate me, and I'm starting to agree ".

Maybe this is the problem , i wouldnt want to spend time with someone who thought he was too good for me either. Might explain your flagging sex life too.

You sound like a little boy desperateley clinging to his mummys titty.

purplepeony · 05/09/2010 20:25

dignified you are giving this guy such a hard time. would you make the same comments if it was a mum posting these quotes from friends?
Now look, I don't know the whole story with the OP but it does seem as if a few of you are out to stick the knife in in a rather biased way, when if a woman was writing this, you'd be saying run for the hills .

dignified · 05/09/2010 21:41

if a woman was writing this, you'd be saying run for the hills .

But its not a woman is it , its a man talking bollocks, i suspect he enjoys the attention and the ego boost he got from the other thread.

" I do all the housework ". Bollocks.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 05/09/2010 21:44

PP the direction taken by the other extremely similar post with an OP with an extremely similar style left me with a very uncomfortable feeling. The OP's behaviour on that thread was creepy and disrespectful so that is why people are very uncomfortable with a copycat OP that is so stylistically similar.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 05/09/2010 21:45

sorry
extremely similar thread

DuelingFanjo · 13/09/2010 15:50

Did this poster ever come back?

Seems there are a few similar threads at the moment.