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Cannot bear to live with this selfish pig a moment longer...but have nowhere to go.

37 replies

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 20:41

God, am so angry. I honestly don't think I can bear to spend one more night under the same roof( the one that HE pays for, as he is ALWAYS telling me) with my selfish, self-centred, I'm alright Jack, twat of a DH.
Problem is I have nowhere to go. If it was just me, I would be packing my bag right now and heading for the next hotel. But 3 DC's will not take kindly to being bundled off to a tiny hotel room with a very pissed off mother.
I know if I apply for social housing it could take months. Can't go to a refuge because DH hasn't actually done anything wrong...not physically abusive, etc. I just can't stand his up his own arse attitude any longer.Have even removed my wedding ring as it seems such a joke now to continue wearing it.
So WWYD?

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BEAUTlFUL · 03/08/2010 20:42

What's happened??

msboogie · 03/08/2010 20:43

Issue divorce proceedings.

OrmRenewed · 03/08/2010 20:45

Can't comment without details.

JimmyTarbuck · 03/08/2010 20:50

It's horrible to feel so trapped. Can you at least just get a break away from him while you think things through?

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 21:03

Details are that he is completely and utterly selfish...loves only himself.
He has gone out tonight as he plays couty Darts so is out quite a lot, ie tonight, tmorrow and Thursday.
DD who is only 3 asked him where he was going, he said 'I'm going Networking'. I was ironing with my back to him and sort of grunted 'Hmmm' (meaning what a load of bollocks. He then said, for about the millionth time, 'Mummy doesn't realise that Daddy has to network (meet his mates in the pub)in order to pay the mortgage'.I swear on my kids lives that if he comes out with this old chestnut one more time I am going to hit him with the iron.
He lives his life the way he wants, fuck anyone else, ie his family.
Am so sick of feeling like this.
Please don't tell me we need to talk because he probably doesn't realise his behaviour is driving me up the wall. He knows exactly what he is doing...and he does it all the more just to wind me up. He has his sodding Blackberry glued to his hand and is constantly texting or whatever on it. I am so tempted to shove it up his arse, sideways.
Am normally not aggressive, but am being pushed to my limit here and I just want out.
I even suspect he may be messing around with another woman. Worst thing is I think sod it she's welcome to him and his bollocking behaviour. I have no respect for him anymore, he has killed it with his I am God attitude.

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SaggyHairyArse · 03/08/2010 21:03

Similar boat. Call the Child Maintainance Helpline and find out how much you would be entitled to, find out if you can get Income Support if you seperate if you don't work at the moment.

Contact Rights For Women, they give free legal advice. Also, domestic abuse is not just physical, it is verbal, psychological, financial. I have just recognised that fact and feel like an idiot for putting up with the shite because I am a SAHM.

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 21:14

Why do men seem to think that they are better than us because we stay at home to look after THEIR kids?
I am sick to death of him making me feel bad because HE puts a roof over our heads.
Tell you how so wrapped up in himself he is. DS1 and myself had eye tests today. DS1 has poor eyesight so every eye test is big deal, for me anyway. DH NEVER even asked hoe it went. Just couldn't be fucking arsed to ask after his own child's welfare...too busy lying on settee with his beloved Blackberry when we got back. My mum came over to look after younger 2 DC's. I asked her how long DH had been home. She said about half an hour. Can't believe he still left my mum to look after them when he had finished his 'gruelling' day at work (This was 2.30pm by the way.

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EricNorthmansmistress · 03/08/2010 21:20

If the house is owned then you can file for divorce and try to get him to move out (which he may have to eventually but it may take a while). Or you could leave and apply for council housing - you would be technically homeless so you would get housed immediately, probably in temp accommodation but eventually you would get a (small) flat. Or you could secretly save money for a few months until you could afford a month rent/deposit/fees in a private let. I suggest you speak to the CAB and/or shelter or your local housing trust for advice on the housing issue. There is always a way. You may have to play the long game for a while.

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 21:25

I cannot play the long game...want out now.
If I go to council with 3 kids and a suitcase and tell them I have nowhere to go what will they do? Know it seems drastic, but I can't live with him any longer...afraid I might do something stupid, like kill him!

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GypsyMoth · 03/08/2010 21:31

They will stick you in a b and b I guess, or hostel. It's not great but far better than this life you have. Been there and come out the other side

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 21:38

So they won't leave us standing on the street then. That is what I am dreading...what is stopping me going really. Also, they are bound to ask what the problem is. How do I explain that I am leaving a 4 bed nice home with 3 DC's because their father is a selfish twat. Won't they just send me hom with my tail between my legs?

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AnyFucker · 03/08/2010 21:40

You are going to have to file for divorce on the grounds of his unreasonable behaviour

Please don't make yourself and the kids homeless

Going on his past behaviour/attitude, he won't move out and you may have to co-habit while the financials are sorted

But they will be sorted and he will have to suppor the children which, in practicality, will mean you and the kids stay exactly where you are

It may take some time though, and he will probably be an utter shit to you

Worth it though ? Yes, I think so...no man should talk to you like that

Tippychoocks · 03/08/2010 21:43

B&B. Think it through for your children's sake before doing it through anger. Do it in cold blood if you get me, it's not a great experience by all accounts. Might be better than what you have though? Its a wait for a house in most areas but you will have some priority with 3dc in B&B.
Are you married? If not, is it rented? In both names or one?
They can't send you home! You don't need to give them a reason.

singledomisgood · 03/08/2010 21:45

Sorry that you are going through this. If your marriage cant be saved, then I would go and get advice as soon as you can. When I went through my divorce, having got to the same stage as you (selfish, abusive, bullying H), I was told under NO circumstances to leave the house. If I left on my own (I couldnt bear another moment with H) then I would probably have a fight to regain my children and I would be seen as abandoning them. And if I left with the children, then it would be hard to be allowed to get back the family home. This was a few years ago, so I dont know the law now.

However, it took more than a year, but basically the solicitor was able to make him
leave after he had had ample opportunity to search for a place of his own. I felt terrible guilt at doing this, but it was the only way as I too was SAHM mum with nowhere to go. Also, I had had so many years of abuse from him, yet no guilt whatsoever from him for what he had done to me and the kids. So you should seek advice to see if you can make him leave.

I would also remind your H that he is able to have the lifestyle he has as you are doing his share of childcare!I am sure if you counted the hours, every day of the week, every week of the year it would amount to a lot more than you are receiving just for you (and that includes nights and weekends). As well as cooking, cleaning, ironing etc) for him and his share of the kids! Maybe if he paid you for your services you can afford a place of your own!

Why dont you have a chat to your mum as that might help you to get through this.

It doesnt sound as if you have anything to lose and lots to gain by divorcing him. And probably the children will benefit as he obviously isnt a good role model and at least you will be in a happier place.

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 22:00

Okay, I have already seen a solicitor and he basically said that we (me and DC's) could not afford to stay in family home. So DH would have to sell house and give us a share. Not enough to buy somewhere else.
We would have to keep living in same house though until it was sold.
Mum can't help...bad health and small 2 bed council flat.
I absolutely will not be leaving house WITHOUT DC's...Dh talks to them as badly as he talks to me, so they will NOT be staying with him.
Should I tell him what I plan to do though, or just bugger off? He is spiteful enough to remove all acces to money if I make my intentions clear.

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AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 22:05

Also, when I did go to slocitor previously, I told DH I had been, and he just laughed. He seems to find everything I do funny...like I'm some kind of fucking joke factory. He walks around all day with this smirk on his face, almost as though he thinks 'I've got her doing this that and the other while I just carry on living my life', IYSWIM. So bloody frustrating.

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Tippychoocks · 03/08/2010 22:05

Can you stick it out for a bit (am saying this assuming there is no violence or danger to you or dcs) and squirrel some money away?

Use the time to go to the CAB and the council. Tell the council it will either be your mum's spare room for the 4 of you or a B&B and see if they can give you a rough idea of a timescale. You might prefer to have them help you with a loan for a deposit on a private rental.

I wouldn't want to stay in the house until it was sold. If he doesn't want to sell, he could drag that out forever. HIs life would change very little - yours would be horrible.

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 22:10

Don't think he would not go through with sale. Main thing is he would not have a clue WHY I wanted to divorse. So self absorbed that he wouldn't get it that I was pissed enough to leave.

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Tippychoocks · 03/08/2010 22:17

I don't know what's for the best then.

Don't suppose he'd move out until the sale for the DC's sake? No? You surprise me!

Myleetlepony · 03/08/2010 22:55

You need to plan this a bit more carefully don't you think? How easy would it be for your H to deny you access to all money if you stormed out now? Surely your solicitor advised you on what you could do to protect yourself in these circumstances.

SaggyHairyArse · 03/08/2010 23:01

Like I said, going through this at the mo, if you turn up at Housing with your kids and a suitcase they will send you back home as you own 50% of the house and will have made yourself homeless so they have no duty to house you.

CarGirl · 03/08/2010 23:09

SIL left her emotionally abusive ex, bit of the same situation he just lived his life and had gambled all their money. The council did help her but did say that the house would have to be sold etc (ie a limited time on help with renting)

After a year her ex signed over the house to her as part of the divorce settlement so she is back in and getting mortgage interest relief.

ginnny · 03/08/2010 23:12

CAB or Women's Aid will be able to advise you. I know its hard but you should bide your time and make plans. Squirrel away some money and fill in every application form available to you.
At least then, once the wheels are in motion you will feel like you are actually doing something to get yourself out of the situation, even if it takes a while, and his jibes and nastiness will be like water off a ducks back (then you can walk around smirking inwardly at the plans you are making to get shot of this twat!)

AlisonDubois · 03/08/2010 23:14

Ther's no way Dh will sign house over to me...too selfish.
seems I have no choice but to stay.

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CarGirl · 03/08/2010 23:17

But he can be forced to sell it/buy you out.