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she said "i love you but i'm not in love with you"

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nigel250866 · 30/07/2010 18:03

where do i start.... after 10 years of marriage, 6 of which i can say were very happy my wife told me 4 weeks ago that "i love you but i'm not in love with you". I am devestated.
She says we have simply grown apart and with me working away from home for the most of our married life, she says she simply does n't need me for anything anymore. I have suggested counselling and she has agreed to go as i suppose a last resort try everything approach.

I suppose it all started 4 years ago when i forced her into an abortion, we had both agreed that we would not have anymore children and she fell pregnant accidentally. I did not want another child and after alot of arguments she agreed to the abortion. We already had two young children of 4 and 2 (both boys)and i was very concerned that she would not cope especially with me being away alot of the time and her only support was a mother who was not particularly mentally stable. After the abortion she became intraverted and finally after 3 months went and saw a counsellor who in one session gave her a different prospective on things, which turned her around. I probably need to say that she lives for the children and is a fantastic mother. Some 18 months later after lots of discussions re more children i relented and we agreed to have another, our daughter was born 18 months ago.

I have a quite stressful job and have been working very long hours and away from home during the week and then coming home at weekends. This changed approximately 2 years ago and i was away for 2-3 weeks at a time and then coming home for several days. We both agreed to this work pattern due to uk tax laws and having to keep under 90 days in the uk to avoid the tax implications. The financial benefit would mean that the schooling for the children could be paid for more easily and we could possibly move house to a better area.

My wife does not work and has the best of everything, she has expensive clothes and i suppose you could call her a WAG. The right mulberry hand bag and the Laboutine shoes etc etc... I have worked very hard to give her these things and she has looked after the children and the house. Until 4 weeks ago i thought we were just going thru a bad patch like all marriages but when the bombshell was dropped it all began to fall into place. The reluctance to kiss me passionately, the drop off in sex and intimacy, no touching or hugs. When we did have sex she would always do everthing to get it finished as quickly as possible.

I have never treated her badly (except for the abortion)and she says i have been "too nice" giving her everything she has ever wanted. Since the bombshell she has seen the other side of me. I am an all or nothing person and this total and utter rejection has hurt me more than i could ever imagined. I cannot sleep and spend my time trying to work out where it all went wrong. I have been very nasty, threatening (not physically), and i suppose an absolute B***d, my moods have been swinging from highs to complete lows. When i go home we just seem to dance round each other, she speaks to me but does not really talk and she says the only thing we now have in common is the children.

I do not know what to do, she says that circumstances have brought us to this place and its nobodys fault.

She also complains that when i am at home that i have no intrest in the family and doing the family stuff. To this end i have agreed to get fitter in order that i have more energy when i'm at home. Working 11-12 hour days for weeks on end takes it out of me and all i have been doing is watching TV.
So yes i can understand her point of view.

she says i'm quiet and don't talk when were with friends, again i hope more energy will help...

I have been very committed to my work and yes i have put that before family, but the work has enabled the family and her to have nice things and not really worry about money.

What i suppose i would like to know has anyone recovered from this situation in the past.. or is all lost?. I love her still, we were soulmates when we met and had a fairytale meeting and courtship thru to the perfect wedding and marriage until....

What can i do to make things right again?

Can the counselling help?

I feel absolutely lost....

OP posts:
Unlikelyamazonian · 30/07/2010 21:15

but why 250866 on the end of your name? I mean, why not REALLY large it and go for the full squillion?

teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 21:17

I actually thought it was his date of birth.

teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 21:19

People do grow apart if they do not see each other much It can happen.

I do like to think you can work through this Nigel. I'm sorry you're getting a flaming if you're real. Why did you choose mumsnet for advice out of a matter of interest?

I do not blame you for searching her stuff for evidence of an affair either.

poshsinglemum · 30/07/2010 21:28

I dumped my dd's dad because he tried to force me into an abortion. Who wants a partner like that anyway?

PeppermintPasty · 30/07/2010 21:28

how do you force someone into an abortion?

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 21:31

You bully the hell out of them, PP. Tell them you'll leave and take the kids, make them think it's their fault, nag, nag, nag. Do the silent treatment. Cry. Threaten some more. Sulk. If you've got someone already with a low self-esteem, you wear them down.

I've seen in happen scads of times here on MN.

'DP/DH wants me to have an abortion'.

There was a thread started just yesterday - 3rd child, he said he didn't want anymore but was too much of a wuss to do something about it, etc.

PeppermintPasty · 30/07/2010 21:35

well, yes, ok. it just sounds a bit odd set against being "too nice" (her words) at other times etc. op are you sure there's no other man as for me the suss bit is withdrawing from you and saying you're too nice-isn't that a bit like the old cliche of "it's not you darling it's me"?

Unlikelyamazonian · 30/07/2010 21:36

Maybe it is.

So. He has been a bastard, forced her to have an abortion, calls her a wag and admits that he has been nasty. And these are things he actually 'admits'.

FFs

So what has he done that he knows might be really too unacceptable to admit to on this site?

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 21:37

a lot of women in shitty or borderline abusive (or worse) refer to their spouses as 'nice' or 'great father', etc.

he's already spied on her to see if there's another man.

nigel250866 · 30/07/2010 22:11

grasping at every straw and piece of advise i can get...

I have only been nasty in the last weeks since my wife dropped the bombshell.... previously i think i have been very caring and supportive but probably not in the right ways... always concentrating on work and not making the family priority...

yes and it is my DOB....

OP posts:
teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 22:32

I don't agree with the abortion part of the thread and that makes me sad but can't we help him and give him advice ladies? Instead of bashing him anymore, his marriage is in tatters and he wants advice.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 22:33

Being very caring and supportive, but manipulating her into an abortion.

Never being there.

Nigel, I think the biggest problem is that you don't seem to take any responsibility for you have acted.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 22:41

tea, that's when the marriage started to go down the pan.

and she's agreed to counselling. believe me, it's going to come up in counselling.

other than not being around, nigel is not acknowledging much responsibility for this.

he's been nasty, but only for a few weeks, and it was her fault, dropping a bombshell.

he spied on her, sure she was cheating.

this is just what he's admitted to online.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 22:44

my advice is also to quit coming onto internet forums looking for what you should do, talk to your wife rather than strangers.

and make sure you've sorted out an appointment with a marriage counsellor as soon as you can.

teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 22:45

I'm not saying it was right about the abortion but we're bashing him about it and what he wants is advice to fix this situation. It is wrong what he has chosen to do in the past but he wants to fix it, is looking for work in the UK, wants to go to counseling etc.

It will come up in the counseling of course but I just want us mumsnetters to help him. He can come to acceptance and realise what he has done wrong with the counseling probably far more effectively, than us lot flaming him. I want us to focus on what he can do right now to make a difference.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 22:52

then focus on it in your own way, tea, but it's really not for anyone to dictate how people respond.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 22:54

it's not flaming to tell someone they need to do some serious acknowledgment to have any hope of saving anything.

ValiumSingleton · 30/07/2010 22:56

A wag?

She has three children to look after? And you're away all the time .....

hello durr as Ross from Friends would say.

teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 22:57

I wasn't dictating, I just don't want Nigel to leave the thread with no advise - just an ear bashing. However well deserved.

So I was hoping to bring people round to providing advice.

My H couldn't wait to get rid of me for the OW, it's a different situation but the fact he's come on here for advice, is a good thing. Far more than mine every did.

Anyway I'm off to bed. I realise I'm against an unstoppable tide and bow out Night all.

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 23:00

He's gotten advice.

Arrange to see a counsellor - and he needs to sort that out himself, not expect her to do it.

Acknowledge he's fucked things up. Stop being a dick - apologise for that, too.

Quit spying on her.

Talk to her not bleat on a net board how hard done by he is.

I mean, DUH!

teaandcakeplease · 30/07/2010 23:01

Btw my comments aren't aimed directly at you Expatin, I've always liked your comments when lurking on your threads, it's just this thread does seem to have turned into bashing him about the abortion mainly. It's well deserved I know, but I wanted people to help him.

Right really off now. As you were

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 23:03

He needs to help himself, and that starts by taking responsibility, not calling your wife a WAG and banging on about how much money you bring to the family.

ValiumSingleton · 30/07/2010 23:04

I agree with expat on this one. It's like he's stopped seeing her as a real person! He thinks that because she can afford nice shoes everything's alright. And to describe her as a wag when she is at home with three kids, that beggars belief really.

MintyBadger · 30/07/2010 23:17

So you love her, but you admit to being a nasty bastard, and you called her a WAG - a vain, orange, image-obsessed empty-headed slapper - to make what point exactly?

I don't think you love her one little bit, I think you feel that you own her and you don't like it that she's not playing that game any more.

The answer is obvious: yes you go to counselling and you both get it all off your chest and see what happens. But this isn't reading right at all, so I tell you what, why not just post your first chapter and we'll rip it to shreds?

expatinscotland · 30/07/2010 23:28

Who uses an obvious birthdate as a handle?

Not very savvy.

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