Archers thread #198: Josh sent to Patagonia, Pip stays put. Wrong way round! Discuss The Archers here.

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Not feeling greatly enthused about what's going on in Ambridge at the moment, tbh. I'm annoyed at Brian's hypocrisy about Ruairi given the furore over George's attempt to frame Alice as the cause of the accident. I do hope we don't have a slow drip drip drip now as one after another the members of the Aldridge/Archer clan find out what really happened and endlessly agonise over what to do. Frankly I don't care. There! I've said it.

Pip's OK. Well, good, but what was the point of that story, I wonder?

I suspect I'm in a minority of one in rather enjoying hearing (a) from Bert Horobin and (b) about Fletcher. I surmise Bert is here to stay for a while because the BBC has (amazingly) updated his character page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1wQP3mKR6yr9LVs05jddxcY/bert-horrobin (prominent actor photo warning). Given how out of date a lot of the other character pages are, this seems odd, but there we are.

That's all I can be bothered to say! Over to you.

I met a nurse in Devon who commutes monthly from Stornoway. Month living in her camper van then two weeks back home. Looking at the picture of her house I can see why!

Sorry if I'm being dim, but is it because the house is really nice (worth all the commuting to stay there at least some of the time) or really bad (better off living in a camper van most of the time)?

Beautiful house in Stornoway, backing into mountains, loch in front. Real 'Escape to the Country ' place.

Ah, I see, @muddyford , thank you 😊
Glad it's that way round.

Excellent point. What does Erik actually do? I think it might be easier for Kirsty and Erik because he already moves around for work and she has a job where she can take time off. It would be much more complicated for Helen with the two boys (neither of whom are Finlay's) and the fact that Finlay is a crofter so actually needs to be at his croft. Wasn't that the problem with their relationship all along? Both are tied to the land they farm. I'm a bit worried that Kirsty may be getting ahead of herself - her period is just a week late, so it seems quite early to be getting too invested especially at her age. IRL she would have told no one, this being Ambridge, the whole village will soon know.

'Whatever happens it's going to be fine.' Oh no it isn't.

Gosh, for a moment there I thought I was going to get my wish and Ruth would be eliminated by that cow.

Then I hoped Josh would say that he'd been tested for the brca gene and was negative, so even if Ruth had it she hadn't passed it on to him.

An evening of disappointments.

I suppose there could still be a delayed reaction from the cow.

My sympathies are all with the actual cow, who I fear may have a slightly bruised hoof.

The cow's calf was taken off her a week ago I think Ruth said, no wonder she kicks out at anything that isn't her calf.
Brian really dislikes Adam, has he ever seemed to like him?

I said last week that Home Farm might be destroyed by Adam seeking a dissolution of the partnership because of Brian’s intransigence. It’s beginning to look as if Adam can’t rely on any of the rest of the partners in any vote to shove Brian off a cliff. So he may well be forced to walk away. For good.

Brian only likes Adam - or pretends to like him - when he needs him @ambercoast. He welcomed him back with open arms when he was left high and dry by Stella’s departure and Adam stepped into the breach to save the day, he was happy for him to teach Ruairi everything he knows to make up for Ruairi’s woeful lack of farming experience otherwise he adopts the sneering tone he used tonight whenever Adam suggests anything. Debbie was the golden girl and Alice is his biological child so can do no wrong.

This.

Also the telling line from Alice about supporting Brine because he's her dad. Not because he's right or reasonable. Also, of course he's not Adam's dad.

Have you ever seen a man with his first nephew or niece? Mostly they are absolutely besotted. (That’s in the past ten years or so, I can easily believe previous generations didn’t give two hoots when men had been socialised to think cuddling babies made you less manly.)

Can anyone remind me where Erik lives? I’ve either never known or put it out of my mind. Kirsty never seems to go wherever it is anyway. Personally I’d like Erik to move to the village and set Kirsty up in a fantastic life where she can finally say f u to the archers. What I suspect will happen is she will be dumped or he’ll die suddenly in a sex accident and Kirsty and Rex will bring the rewild child up together in a platonic coparenting situation yawn yawn.

Going back to tonight - wasn’t Alice quite the little hypocrite??

Ugh. Happily, no, I have never experienced that.

He pretty much coerced Adam into coming back by badgering him non-stop for help and causing issues with his job at the time.

Have you ever seen a man with his first nephew or niece? Mostly they are absolutely besotted. Yes, but not just in the past 10 years. It's usually a man with no children and it wears off after the first one.

Also the telling line from Alice about supporting Brine because he's her dad.
To be fair, Adam is Alice's half-brother and was away for much of Alice's childhood. She was about 15 when he came back to Ambridge.

What's "Ugh" about it?

Alice was one of the first to think Brian had dementia, so yes she is a two faced hypocrite and I can't stand her.
I do feel sorry for Adam but I think he is going to be the only one who votes Brian down in the next partners meeting.
Adam is the only one who is willing to keep the farm going, everyone else is just sitting with thier hands out taking thier share without doing anything. Oh and Brian should be put in his place, but noone will do that.

THE classic man and descendant relationship is with his sister's child, the person guaranteed to share close DNA. Legends and fairy tales have it, Tolkien used it.

His brother's child are as likely to be someone else's as are his own.

Ambridge does myth and legend.

Or misogynist cliché.

Now trying (not) to imagine a fatal sex accident 😳.

Alice showing her true colours, yes. I've never liked her.

Yes it’s going to be classic Succession all over again. Bonus points if Adam is trying to phone into the meeting while running through Ambridge after his car gets stuck behind some escaped cows.

Don’t … 😂 Puts up my blood pressure just remembering that scene!

Brian promised to leave the land to Adam, but surely he only owns part of it, the rest is in shares for the other 4 children.

Don’t they just have a share of the profits rather than the land itself? (Actually no idea …)