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👩‍🌾 The Archers spoilers thread #5: Can't wait for 7.02pm? Join us here!

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/03/2020 13:41

Spoiler thread for The Archers. Please keep all spoiler-related discussion in this thread and do not spill the beans on the main Archers Thread. Last thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4

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PerditaProvokesEnmity · 17/04/2020 14:22

Oh yes, I remember! Grin

Nothing against TB, of course. Just cannot face the toy farm again ...

MikeUniformMike · 17/04/2020 15:13

I think a David Archer one would be good. He could talk about how Brookfield's future is looking rosy, how wonderful his firstborn is...

ppeatfruit · 18/04/2020 09:09

Iam a relatively new contributor on line Mike So didn't know about MustardLand until it was at it's end I think. Were they saying you liked too much drama or not enough?

Though Iam the age of TA!

Brillig · 18/04/2020 09:42

Long-term lurker surfacing

I find it hard to believe that with all the highly qualified expert sound technicians they have at the BBC they wouldn't be able to manage what science fiction fans have known how to do for years -- record people talking on their home computers with a link over the network, and then splice it together into conversations which sound as if everyone were in the same room

The difficulty here is that all those people are recording in different rooms, or sheds, or home offices, in different acoustics, albeit with proper microphones supplied by the Beeb. Because of that problem with the sound, nothing is 'broadcast quality', the term for what we usually hear, ie the very highest standard of radio sound (unless any of those people actually has a fully soundproofed professional home studio, not impossible if they do voiceovers on the side, but unlikely for everyone).

Editing different participants in a conversation together isn't difficult - it's all done digitally anyway - but making it sound convincingly as if they're all talking face-to-face, as it would if they were grouped around mics in a properly equipped studio, would be a challenge. You only have to look at the photo someone linked on the Other Thread of 'Ed's' home set-up - in a back room, laptop on the ironing board, clothes-rail along one wall, uncurtained window to the side. He'd need to block that window for a start, eg with a duvet or a mattress. Ambient noise around the house - and outside it - could be a problem. He'd have to get his voice level right, in scenes where he might have a wide dynamic range (from whispering to shouting). There are myriad technical considerations that actors normally don't even have to think about, because the studio managers are taking care of that for them; they just need to concentrate on acting.

Then imagine that some of the older actors, who may have very little technical savvy and may not be confident computer users, or just can't get the hang of it (which is fair enough - they wouldn't normally need to), have to get up to speed and do what studio managers train for years to do.

It's asking quite a lot of them, really!

I'm interested to hear how it does sound, when they eventually go to the home-recorded episodes. Possibly I'm the only one who's quite looking forward to it, out of sheer curiosity Grin

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 18/04/2020 09:54

Bit mean to re-lurk when you're needed ...

Grin

Thanks for that info, Brillig. I'm glad to see that everything I tried explaining to a loitering teen a few days ago is correct. (Teen was teen-splaining to me that animated films don't require actors to be in a room together, so TA shouldn't have a problem. I replied that Disney lacked all the subtleties of TA; theres no auditory difference between characters locked in a tiny cell together or shouting across mountains, whereas radio drama listeners are acutely aware of the relative distance between characters. Teen looked sceptical, but what do they know?)

Brillig · 18/04/2020 09:57

Happy to delurk again if necessary, PPE Grin

ppeatfruit · 18/04/2020 09:59

That's interesting brillig

BTW your user name made me think of the Jabberwocky poem. I like it! And the mome raths outgrabe ??? (sp)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/04/2020 13:47

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update April 19-23
Mild-mannered Robert has had a tough time of it. Having feared he had lost Lynda, then spent long vigils by her bedside - only to get his head bitten off - he now cracks under pressure.
He’s not the only one pushed to the limits as Gavin, who is a very different kettle of fish from the gentlemanly Mr Snell, struggles to keep control of an increasingly alarming situation.
Phoebe, wary of Justin’s gentlemanly veneer, shows her inner steel and gets the better of Lilian’s other half, while Lilian puts on several more layers of war paint and takes charge.
Meanwhile, Tracy carries on with her plans to bring new blood to the cricket team, and Roy has a revealing encounter.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/04/2020 19:54

Do you think we dare to hope that "20 Apr Shula faces some home truths" might be Lilian telling her exactly what she thinks about her behaviour in eating the rabbit and palming off a misshapen frog on the egg-hunt winning child? It was shoddy behaviour and Shula deserves a rocket for it, and now it sounds as if Lilian plans to deliver one.

ppeatfruit · 20/04/2020 08:57

So they decided to make Shula a silly Easter egg breaker ? DUH. the gratuitous 'humour' about the hats was effin' stupid too.

it's getting worse.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/04/2020 15:42

I don't have any Radio Times for next week, nor Mail as yet, but here is what I have:

BBC One-Lines

Credits
Sun 26/4/2020, Mon 27/4/2020, Tue 28/4/2020, Wed 29/4/2020, Thu 30/4/2020
Writer: Liz John
Directors: Kim Greengrass & Peter Leslie Wild
Editor: Jeremy Howe
Jolene Archer: Buffy Davis
Pip Archer: Daisy Badger
Lilian Bellamy: Sunny Ormonde
Harrison Burns: James Cartwright
Susan Carter: Charlotte Martin
Ed Grundy: Barry Farrimond
Eddie Grundy: Trevor Harrison
Emma Grundy: Emerald O’Hanrahan
Tracy Horrobin: Susie Riddell
Adam Macy: Andrew Wincott
Kirsty Miller: Annabelle Dowler
Gavin Moss: Gareth Pierce
Philip Moss: Andy Hockley
Johnny Phillips: Tom Gibbons
Leonie Snell: Jasmine Hyde
Lynda Snell: Carole Boyd
Robert Snell: Graham Blockey
Roy Tucker: Ian Pepperell

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/04/2020 15:43

Why didn't the one-lines come out?

26 Apr Roy finds himself in a vulnerable position, and Tracy can’t take a hint.
27 Apr Susan can’t help worrying about Emma, and Roy’s the worse for wear.
28 Apr A wedding blunder leaves Kirsty fuming, and Tracy needs to swallow her pride.
29 Apr Things need to be said between Emma and Ed, and Leonie is determined to lend a hand.
30 Apr Lilian shares her Justin-wrangling wisdom, and Roy has a wobble.

ppeatfruit · 25/04/2020 16:00

Thanks Asking I have the RT week ending May 1 and try as I might I can't find the precis . I'm not sure if there IS one . (it is unusual because I'm in Fr. and last week's wasn't available till the Mon. or Tues. (we got it on Tues.)

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 25/04/2020 16:12

Oh heavens! Have the Mosses hired heavies to duff up Roy?

Which day is Kirsty supposed to be getting married? (I'm sure this has been clarified already, but I've forgotten.)

Are they going to go out on a high - Ed n Emma reunited and Gangmasters Moss arrested? Do hope so!

Thank you Asking. However misleading, the one liners are always intriguing.

I'll miss the continuing story, but I daresay there'll be one or two archived episodes that I somehow didn't hear first time around. See you all on the other side! Doom music ...

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/04/2020 16:17

Fascinating stuff, @Brillig! Thanks, Asking. The last week of real Archers looms, then.

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Brillig · 25/04/2020 17:51

I don't know, because I'm guessing as well (though from a certain degree of informed speculation)....but, slightly rethinking what's possible, what they're probably frantically doing right now, tbh Grin is each recording their individual scripts 'down the line', ie with their home set-up linked to the studio - which is technically fairly simple to do - with a studio manager back at base making sure the sound levels are all correct. That would take a significant level of difficulty out of the equation. The recordings would still need to be edited for broadcast, of course - but then, they have to be anyway.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/04/2020 18:38

The "Archived Archers" episodes we have been told about so far are

(Four Weddings and a Funeral)
03 May It’s a beautiful May afternoon, and Emma is marrying Ed. (May 22, 2015)
04 May It’s Adam and Ian’s wedding day. (December 14, 2006)
05 May Happy Kirsty rides to church, and Joe gets disgruntled. (April 24, 2014)
06 May Alice and Chris return from a holiday in Vegas with a surprise for their parents. (August 2, 2010)
07 May Ambridge bids a final farewell to Joe and Jim faces his big moment. (November 8, 2019)

(A theme of Home)
10 May Brookfield in Lockdown (21st March 2001)
11 May Brian confesses to Jennifer (15th December 2002)
12 May The Grundys’ eviction from Grange Farm (26th April 2000)
13 May Floods Hit Ambridge (3rd March 2015)
14 May Helen wins custody of her boys (16th September 2016)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/04/2020 18:44

Brillig, I think that is pretty-much what SF fans have been doing: one person coordinating all the input. I assure you that it does sound in their podcasts as if all the six or more people involved are in the same place, even though they definitely are not! The main difficulty has tended to be stopping them from all talking at once, I am told.

Whether it is broadcast-quality, I can't say. But after all, they are amateurs and nobody is paying them to get it right.

Brillig · 25/04/2020 18:50

Asking I'll be interested to see how they choose to structure the new episodes, when we get on to them. I certainly don't relish the prospect of spending a whole episode hearing Shula's thoughts Shock

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/04/2020 19:03

What they have said so far is that we will hear more of what residents of Ambridge are thinking, which doesn't sound as if they plan to try for scenes with two or more actors talking with each other. But as you say, we'll see.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3ylHgx0mKJPW13QqCW9fVvs/important-moments-from-archers-history-to-be-re-broadcast
"New episodes of The Archers are planned to air from Monday 25 May and from this date, while each episode will feature fewer characters, you will have an insight into more of their private thoughts."

MikeUniformMike · 25/04/2020 19:16

Thanks Asking.
No shocks next week.
Is Kirsty going to find herself alone at the altar again?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/04/2020 12:16

Daily Mail Weekend Magazine Archers Update 19-23 April
Tracy, as anyone bold enough to turn up for the Ambridge X1’s net practice knows, doesn’t hold back. She is a terrifying force of nature at any time, but now with Lynda out of action, there’s a vacuum of power - and Tracy has been giving it large. This week, though, the moment comes when she has to swallow her pride, and it will be a difficult moment for all of us.
Kirsty will also give us heartache; those of us who remember her bravely setting out to her last doomed wedding are getting anxious about her coming nuptials. Now, a blunder about her big day leaves her fuming.

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What was brave about Kirsty in Bridezilla mode setting out to marry Tom? I mean, apart from marrying Tom what was brave about that?

PerditaProvokesEnmity · 26/04/2020 12:24

Oh. It's going to be that wonderful woodland (or whatever) venue that Philip found, isn't it? A mix-up about dates maybe. Which will mean they have to get married within listening distance of Ambridge.

Waiohwai · 26/04/2020 13:38

Hmmm. Nothing in those teasers to give me any confidence that Philip will be banged to rights by the end of the week Sad

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/04/2020 15:20

I doubt that he will be.

This 'ere gives us Keri Davies' lowdown on what is to come: keridavies.wordpress.com/2020/04/26/keri-davies-q-and-a/

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