Thread 98 - Discuss The Archers here! If you don’t give a ha’porthfor Pip come and add your two penn’orth - we do enjoy a bit of change counting (especially if it’s in old money)

[Bittermints]

Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title (again - she has real gift for this!). Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you'd like to be Susan's best friend or other odd unusual views.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

(Change counting references arose specifically out of a nostalgic discussion on the previous thread, if anyone is intrigued.)

I think you have to challenge things you don't agree with on an individual basis. I find some comments on here fairly sexist but I just challenge or disagree with the individual poster if I can be arsed.

I'd be really taken aback if someone asked me not to use a religious swear word IRL. And I'm not a person who swears a lot. Context is important too. I wouldn't swear in church, for example.

It's a bit like correcting people's grammar on here, pedantic & pointless.

I find swearing in this context friendly rather than unfriendly!
Swearing is friendly?? That's a new one on me.

I'd add that I don't think fink's request was passive-aggressive. She asked politely

I agree. I also thought the acronym used added nothing to the point being made by the poster.

I'd be really taken aback if someone asked me not to use a religious swear word IRL

I'm a vehement atheist. I also dislike swearing. If we were having a conversation in real life I might ask you not to swear.

I too have been clinically depressed, and found Elizabeth's turn of phrase odd. "I have depression " is more the sort of thing one might say after diagnosis, I think.

"I have depression " is more the sort of thing one might say after diagnosis, I think.
It was "may have" but it sounded jarring to me, too. Although maybe Lizzie, sequestered in her private flat, has been diagnosed ... by Dr Google.

AdamGrundy & Pips

Sorry - slight non-sequitur....

I stand corrected on the 'tablet' thing. I've never heard it used - maybe because I am surrounded by too many Apple product users. But then again, I refer to my Henry as a 'hoover' and would always use the verb 'to Google' irrespective of search engine. For me it's in that bracket, but clearly I'm in a minority.

And.... I agree with the 'I think I may have depression' line sounding jarring. Other than that - another storming piece of acting from Elizabeth. A definite BOOP point from me.

Thank you 😊

I did wonder if we were supposed to assume that in all her alone time Elizabeth had been looking up her symptoms. That theory has just made me sad for her.

R4 sorry, I was in a hurry this morning, that could have used an explanation. I suppose I meant, for me, a swear word used as an intensifier (as Cromer did), rather than as an attack or to cause offence, introduces a level of informality that I associate with conversations between friends, rather than, say, a professional or more formal social situation.

Lilian's always been portrayed as a bit of a goer. So has Kate at times. Lilian had her toyboy (Scott?) when she first returned to Ambridge from Jersey. He went off with Brenda after a bit. Kate had a ONS with Toby after the party at Home Farm where sheep dip got thrown into the outdoor pool so they both ended up with blue marks like sheep who've been serviced by the ram.

I actually used a letter rather than a word, and I was sort of ventriloquising a very bad pastiche of 'yoof', rather than using my own voice, but I think your distinction is a useful one, thislido. Sometimes people express opinions that I think are, well, poorly-informed, or at odds with my own, but I would not call them an arse for doing so. Saying David Archer/Toby/Kenton/Pip is behaving like an arse, however, isn't, in my view, swearing. Or were I to write, blimey, Adam is such a moaning pain in the arse how in God's name does Ian cope? - not swearing in my view.

It was fluffiphlox that said 'christ' I'm assuming that was what was being discussed, not 'OMFG.' I could be wrong and now I feel like a snitch.

Delighted to have become thislido, I do love a lido

The Christ passed me by altogether, I was looking for an 'actual' swear word/letter, which I suppose just goes to show how differently we register these things!

Bittermints, you've missed Jill off the list, she's at it too now!

Technically I think my use of ‘Christ’ is blasphemy rather than swearing.

Kate had a ONS with Toby after the party at Home Farm where sheep dip got thrown into the outdoor pool so they both ended up with blue marks like sheep who've been serviced by the ram.

Don't forget the stiletto heel through the bouncy castle.

Listening again via film. Nice put down by Jenny to Jill and Shula about Lexi escaping 'uninformed speculation'.

So, what - Alice has another day off because her dad's in court??

Hmm just discovered this thread and I am an avid archers fan and discusser but if I can’t say the odd swear word or OMG without being picked up like a naughty school girl then I think it’s not for me!!

Welcome traveller! And don't run away.

I'm personally always happy to acknowledge the stated preferences of other posters - but I'd be dismayed (and astonished) to find MN instigating more restrictive rules on this one, lovely thread that don't pertain across the rest of the site ...

It's funny when characters are off air you realise which ones you miss. I think Lily is a real miss, can't say I have particularly been bothered about the absence of Freddie or Kate .

I find sexual swear words more offensive than religious ones.

The C word is used with great abandon on some MN threads, which I do not like, and I go to a regular client meeting where the F word is used for emphasis far more than I think is appropriate.

I also thought the reference upthread was to the use of Crs* however.

Do stay traveller, we usually the discuss the Archers more than swearing