Thread 98 - Discuss The Archers here! If you don’t give a ha’porthfor Pip come and add your two penn’orth - we do enjoy a bit of change counting (especially if it’s in old money)

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Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title (again - she has real gift for this!). Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking off this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed. We don't all agree on all points and most of us are posting tongue in cheek a lot of the time, so don't worry about revealing that you'd like to be Susan's best friend or other odd unusual views.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

(Change counting references arose specifically out of a nostalgic discussion on the previous thread, if anyone is intrigued.)

Yes Leonard is there for some reason other than to make Gill happy. Is he going to con Gill out of her money? Become the main beneficiary inheriting her estate? Or yes, new owner of home farm, but that didn't explain the wild party.

The wild party was the son in Singapore

I don't know the legalese, but I'm fairly sure that what Jill inherited from Phil is held by her in trust for their children until her death. I can't remember the details of what Phil set up for Brookfield before he died; I just remember Elizabeth having a hissy-fit about it and the SWs not remembering it until quite late in the process because listeners with better knowledge than theirs pointed it out to them when Ruth and David were going to happily sell up the farm, take all the profit, and move to "Northumbria".

If I had a choice between Toby and a lifetime of celibacy I would choose the latter with joy.

Yes, I realise that Tom Wriggleworth's "dad" is a fictional creation (although I always assumed partly based on reality).

Leonard is a chartered surveyor, isn't he? so perfectly natural he'd be interested in the house. The contrast was with David going off on a tangent about the farming and not realising that would be of little interest to Leonard.

Oh please let Leonard be the new owner of Home Farm and a permanent addition to Jill’s life. They can get married and she can be Jill Gill.

Jill Gill!

All this surveying talk has reminded me of how annoyed I am over Rickyard.

Because I was wondering which of the grandchildren Jill would leave Glebe Cottage to - or whether it will jump straight to Rosie Grace. And I remembered how Ed n Emma were living in the bungalow at Brookfield. And how, when David and Ruth decided to rent it out for £££, Ed n Emma had to go and live with Susan & Neil. While all the while, Rickyard was lying forgotten by SWs empty and was only resurrected when needed for the Pip/Toby plot.

Just caught up, I thought last night's episode was very Last Tango in Halifax.

Not least because Paul Copley was in Last Tango, as Derek Jacobi's mate.

Rickyard was being used as a holiday cottage rather than lying empty, wasn't it? Now they're feeling the pinch at Brookfield again, maybe it's time for Pip to move back to the farm so they can let it out.

I think the Rickyard holiday cottage thing was a temporary measure to recoup the losses from Pip's cow disaster. She was already living there and moved out for a while.

But long before that it was (iirc) semi-derelict until David or Pip noticed it while showing the Fairbros around.

EdnEmmur (or should that be MeAnEd) were in Rickyard not the bungalow. How the 4 of them fitted in I don't know. Maybe it had two bedrooms then.
Bert and Freda were in the bungalow.
I don't recall Rickyard being derelict.

You sure MUM?

I have no idea. I have books on Ambridge but

a) they're quite far away and I've opened the wine early

b) I doubt they cover anything recent.

No. I'm sure there was a point when Rickyard could have been in play (lemon-wise) but wasn't ...

The derelict buildings were a whole 'nother farm that they' d forgotten about. Hollowtree? or Marneys?

I agree Toby doesn’t sound the sort to own pjs (he’s under 50 for starters) so it was just a clunky plot device for him to let Rex know he was back in Pip’s favour. Will she find out it was Emma and be angry do we think?
Also David’s expectation that Leonard would be like his dad strikes me as normal. He probably saw his parents marriage as perfect so would subconsciously expect his mum to find another man of the same ‘type’. He’s never been very welcoming of Pip’s boyfriends so it’s no surprise he’s no better with his mum!

Hollowtree was sold years ago for flats, but when the derelict Hollowtree was rediscovered there were no flats.
I'm pretty certain that Rickyard had 2 bedrooms when MeAnEd lived there. It was let before that, and I can't see a one bed cottage being that lettable.

Oh bugger, I've been trying to not post on this thread because I came up on the stats for the previous one.
Marney's is now a small industrial estate.
I don't think that Toe B would have pyjamas.
I don't like Pip.

So, in fact I'm enraged about Hollowtree? That's ok. Still

Is Len living at the LAurels or is he a volunteer there?

Leonard is a volunteer visitor at the Laurels, having previously been visited his wife who was a resident.

Volunteer, I think.
Brian Jeremy! I've forgotten most of the middle names.
If anyone can remind me...

Place marking with my new account, do I need my hearing checked or did Rex sound completely different?

Possibly I’ve never really listened to Rex before given that he’s so bloody tedious!

Thank you Live and MUM

Canoe I couldn't work out which was which.

Do people ever BOOP the continuity announcer?

"Unusual self awareness from
David"