Movin' on up (Ed and Emmur), Movin' on out (Brian and Jenny), Time to break free (Lily from Russ, we hope), Nothing can stop *The Archers* in 2019 - Thread 97 (Joe Grundy’s age!)

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Many thanks to @LilianGish for the title and to @NotdeadyetBOING for being the last threadstarter. Further thanks due to @PseudoBadger for kicking of this long, long series of Archers threads and to @DadDadDad for being our resident statistician and keeping the ball rolling when Pseudo stepped back a bit.

All views on The Archers welcome here! New blood welcomed.

Spoilers: not on this thread, please. We don't wait for the omnibus to discuss the weeknight episodes, but we do try our best to avoid cross-contamination from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/radio_addicts/3439443-keep-it-to-yourself-the-archers-spoilers-thread-4, where spoilers are positively welcomed!

I wonder where Brian and Jennifer will end up. I was very taken with the idea on the last thread that the mysterious Gills won't last very long and the house will be sold back to the Aldridges at a knockdown price.

Yes - but the situation is out of character, completely outside his experience. So he doesn't have a practised response.

The worst thing that's happened in his Ambridge life is Siobhan's death and bringing Ruairi to the village - but even that didn't lose him his home. Truly, something has to break in him - mind or body ...

Because TASWAMA.

Is there not a possibility that Brian has had to learn to pretend to find his strong minded daughters agreeable and admirable as women? And that his veneer of tolerance vanished when faced with Kirsty? Oh the relief he might have felt, giving himself permission to say what he is not allowed to say, domestically.

Kirsty has zero that he can (be pushed to) admire. At least his daughters have business minds but Kirsty is a gobby, northern, feminist, jumped-up trolly-girl sorting out clean towels for a living.

I hadn't thought of it the way a PP put it but absolutely agree that I'd hate Brian in real life while loving his character in TA and vice versa with Kirsty.

When I google myself I come up on ratemyteacher.

What does it say @echt? [By the way, one of my ex-students now runs a uni society called ECHT, your name always makes me think of him]

I found my ex-h on ratemyteacher. I had a right laugh because a couple of the reviews really nailed him. I've never seen him teach, but I can imagine it. Obsession with telling everyone he went to Oxford. Funny. Good teacher in class. Rarely available after class.

I think that Brine would have been raised on
"If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster,
And treat those two impostors just the same"
He may rant and rave to JD (or other 'safe' confidantes) about set-backs but, normally, he puts on a suave face for the rest of the world.

Kirsty would be a pain in real life.

I can't believe Ed 'n' Emmur rare oblivious the financial consequences of their move on the others. They're used to living in a hand to mouth fashion, they keep a strict household budget. Also them being let off a months rent was a special gift because of the turkey(?) success. It's inconceivable that the shortfall in income won't have occurred to them. It would have been in their minds from the first mention of the build.

I left teaching 20 years ago so avoided ratemyteacher. The only rating I remember getting is graffiti on a desk in my classroom expressing the view that I was a bastard. I was quite pleased that I'd made an impression.

My first and last name are sufficiently unusual that there appears to be just two of us in Britain. I hope when people Google us they make the distinction, and don't think I've got a mysterious double life...

Google brings up my linked in profile and other professional stuff.
Rate my teacher sounds horrible.
I might google a new colleague but not normally a personal acquaintance.

R4, I can just hear Brian quoting 'If...', I think that would be his aspiration, but I think bf is right and his veneer of tolerance gave way there

If Helen has a heart to heart with Lee, will she tell him everything? Greg, the eating disorder, Henry's conception, Rob, the stabbing, prison?

If a person I was dating mentioned all that I would never see them again. Maybe she could mention one subject a week as a kindness.

I'd forgotten about Greg.

Maybe as a Dan Brown aficionado Lee will take Helen's past in his stride.

When I google myself I come up on ratemyteacher

What does it say @echt? [By the way, one of my ex-students now runs a uni society called ECHT, your name always makes me think of him]

I haven't looked. I did back in the day, when someone said I was a bit of a cow but knew my stuff.

I was a bit of a cow but knew my stuff.
Sounds like an excellent testimonial!

Just listening to the film and Tom is discussing their fantastic new idea for veg boxes: digital platforms, people designing their own boxes, blah, blah.
The whole point of veg boxes is to force your produce on people, make them buy stuff that they would normally swerve. Nobody will say "onions! turnips! yippee!". You have a 'base offering' of what's in surplus/season and then gussy it up with some fancy stuff. Doesn't Natasha KnowItAll understand this?

The transporting of those Montbelliards would be costing a huge amount of money,( we have thought of transporting a piano to England, it would cost thousands) I was trying to remember how well Bridge Farm is making!

Sorry "..how well Bridge Farm is doing".

They got £900,000 (?) for the land they sold to Justin for the affordable homes. Isn't that why they're having fun chasing after innovations?

I don't know why they didn't source the cows from British herds.

Yes of course Quater She'll need to make good cheese to return the outlay though .

Kirsty'll fill the void (and pay the rent for a room) for the Grundy oldies.

I don't know why they didn't source the cows from British herds They did, I think, but then the owner changed his mind about selling, so having set her heart on the breed she had to look abroad.

I presume Montbeliards aren't well known over here, so this is part of showing Helen to be forward thinking and not a follower of the herd.

THis is reminding me of a huge exhibition hall with a life size model of every single Portuguese livestock breed, with cattle ranging from huge great beasts to the cattle equivalent of shetland ponies; wonderful long-legged sheep that looked as if they were walking on tiptoe; as well as all the other things such as goats and working dogs. Nothing to do with TA, just a memory I wanted to share. Quite an eye-opener - there are many more breeds of farm animal than I imagined.
www.cm-vinhais.pt/pages/231

I don't know why they didn't source the cows from British herds.

They were going to, but the supplier (in Yorkshire?) said they wouldn't be available till mich later in the year, and they wanted to get going sooner. From a comment Helen made recently, it wasn't clear to me if they might also be getting a second batch from the original supplier in some weeks.

Mere I love watching CountryFile because it often shows unusual breeds. There were some lovely black and white (in large stripes) smallish cattle on yesterday.

I'm still not convinced about the Montbelliardes. Google tells me that there are loads of UK dealers, not just one bloke in Yorkshire. It seems silly to incur all that expense of importation and added risk of translation misunderstandings. But it serves the plot, so ...

The interesting thing is that we are seeing more Jersey type cattle here, I wonder if they are Montys?

The Fr. don't have many Limousin now, they have the large black and white English type milkers for bigger profits I suppose