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PseudoBadger · 13/06/2017 19:43

Hides in laundry rooms

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TheAntiBoop · 02/08/2017 21:42

You can tell a non native speaker because their English is often too perfect (and a little antiquated!!)

She doesn't sound quite right though but I can't quite put my finger on it

TheAntiBoop · 02/08/2017 21:47

There's also a difference between those who have been educated in the English system at some stage and those who have learnt the language through the university of life!

I am related to and know a lot of non native speakers and find it really interesting!!

Imbroglio · 02/08/2017 21:48

Does the 'trust' thing sound plausible? Or is it a plot thing to get Justin on the deeds for the Dower House?

TheAntiBoop · 02/08/2017 22:07

I thought Matt had gifted her the house so I was a bit surprised. But that could just be me misremembering!!

Not sure how trusts and bankruptcy work. If you put something in trust for someone else does it cease to belong to you? If not, surely the bankruptcy court could get hold of it?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 02/08/2017 22:36

The trust thing is wildly improbable. You can't just stick property in a trust to avoid it being available to creditors.

The person who sets up a trust is no longer the owner. It is owned by the trustees for the benefit of the beneficiaries. There has to be a reason for putting property in trust. It also has tax consequences.

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 08:56

Having googled it looks like it wouldn't achieve what he hoped anyway. If the asset has been put in trust irrevocably it might but then Matt ceases to be the owner so no issue there. Sounds like another sl that's not been properly researched!!

ppeatfruit · 03/08/2017 12:38

I thought that Lil owns\owned the Dower House outright. Bought with the inheritance from her husband who had lived in Jersey with her, I may be wrong.

Ceto · 03/08/2017 12:52

Lil said she had owned it, but sold it back in the 1990s I think.

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 13:06

Yes I think that's right - but I thought Matt have it to her

ppeatfruit · 03/08/2017 13:09

No Matt moved in with her, it was hers then TheAnti I think!

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 13:41

So how did it end up in the trust?

I thought in all of this the house was the one thing that was hers

Ceto · 03/08/2017 13:47

The TA website describes the Dower House as being "Bought by would-be modern day Squire of Ambridge, Matt Crawford, for him & Lilian Bellamy." Which seems to be consistent with what she was saying about having sold it to someone else previously.

ppeatfruit · 03/08/2017 13:47

Ask the SWs !

Ceto · 03/08/2017 13:54

And there's a bit in Lowfield for May 2004 which says "Lilian is doubly thwarted: Caroline has refused to let her take Matt around the Dower House, her old home" and later "in the face of Caroline's refusal Lilian has borrowed William's key and let herself and Matt into the Dower House".

So presumably Caroline owned it at that point?

(I haven't been ploughing through ancient Lowfield, honest; out of curiosity I put a few representative words into Google and that reference popped).

Ceto · 03/08/2017 13:55

popped up, I mean.

R4 · 03/08/2017 14:28

I've been googling too. I found some blurb about someone writing a book on TA and, in 2015, she said "It was great fun doing the research ... The most difficult thing to find out was details of the ownership of the Dower House now that Matt has scarpered – and it turns out even the BBC aren’t clear about this."
So, a bit of rewriting history artistic licence, methinks.Wink

EBearhug · 03/08/2017 17:26

Didn't Caroline own the Dower House till she bought Grey Gables? Then she moved into a suite there until she married and she and Oliver moved into Grange Farm.

Was that when Matt bought it? He moved in with his wife, whose name I forget. (Yvette, maybe.) Then they divorced and Lilian moved in. He had to sign it over to her to avoid assets being seized, when he was done for fraud.

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 17:30

I think that's right ebear- but did yvette ever live there?

If it's in trust irrevocably I don't think Matt can get it back

Ceto · 03/08/2017 18:56

Knowing Matt, though, you can bet he has the trustees firmly in his pocket.

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 19:00

I'm sure he does! But legally I don't think he has a leg to stand on!

TheAntiBoop · 03/08/2017 19:12

So Matt is distracting anisha because he's buying duds and getting a cut from the seller?

Emma was interesting tonight. The chip on her shoulder was quite on show!

If they do get built what's the betting they'll be sold off before Emma gets a chance

Minimammoth · 03/08/2017 19:31

Blatant place marking

R4 · 03/08/2017 19:52

Or was Matt filming Anisha so that he can do subsequent monkey-see-monkey-do "assessments" himself (why else question her every action; he's supposed to know about horses). Fully certified by means of photocopies of letterheads and copy'n'paste.

C8H10N4O2 · 03/08/2017 23:41

The Dower House was part of the original Bellamy Estate (hence Lilian and Ralph owned it and I think retained it for a while when the estate was sold)

The way in which the LSWs are reminding us of Matt's past misdeeds and blackmail of Alastair combined with the heavy handed pushing of Anisha as someone who 'knows best' and doesn't need to be 'warned about men' suggests that Matt will find some way to try and pressure Anisha into dodgy activities as well. At which point she will either take a tumble or there will be an overly dramatic confession by Alastair to Anisha about His Problem (which he overcame with the traditional Ambridge ease)

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 03/08/2017 23:42

Anisha is so annoying.