Christmas is coming, the geese are getting fat, please put a penny in Joe Grundy's hat. Discuss The Archers here.

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Ho ho ho! Will this thread last until Christmas?

IamNot True about Locke, Lizzie is well out of it. Thus leaving her open for the revival of the relationship with her son's maths tutor . YAAY lets hope that Ifti is not attached now.

Hmm. Dr Locke is presented as a very attractive man, and I get the sense that women pursue him. He was involved with a few before he left Ambridge but the relationship with Debbie had the most spark. Good luck to them.

Just typing this and Richard Burton's amazing tones on Desert Island D NOW!!!!!!

Sorry to derail the thread but his reading of Under Milkwood is effing wonderful!

Hang on, have I missed something regarding DocLocke?
Shula: she was chasing him. I don't think he did anything to encourage her.
Lizzie: he was interested but she gave him the brush-off, so ...
Debbie: there's no chance of a relationship there, she'll be back off to Hungary soon. What, if anything, happened between them?

He's not that predatory, is he?

Happy New Year fellow Archers addicts!

Missed that ppeat had the radio turned down low so I could concentrate on typing.

I just get the feeling with doc Locke that he'll latch on to any single woman in the hope of getting a shag - it's less about him meeting someone and clicking personality wise, its more about whether there is a vacancy shag-wise. I don't think he actually tried hard enough with Lizzie if he was genuinely into her as a relationship.

Sorry at my lack of eloquence. Find it very hard to write on phone!

IAm I don't get that at all. I don't think he's big on commitment, but I don't think he has met the right person yet. I don't think it's Elizabeth. He and Debbie were always passionate but combative - good for sex but not for the washing up.

I just get the feeling with doc Locke that he'll latch on to any single woman in the hope of getting a shag

He was chasing Lizzie back in August. He kept trying until she gave him a big back-off (?in Dec?) over choosing the twins' car. I'd say he tried more than many men would. How long was he supposed to keep trying?
I'm not sure what happened with Debbie but it's slightly different anyway because they have history.

Maybe Debbie and Doctor will settle down in Ambridge !!!! or Tamsin's running out of work elsewhere.

R4 you're not Shula are you?

I don't detect any signs of DocLocke being desperate to hook up with anyone he can shag. The only time he's actually shown any signs of wanting to take things further is in relation to Lizzie.

But maybe he'll give all the Archer women a swerve and end up with Anisha.

Not RTFT but on Kirsty I expect several things. Baby will be a girl - that might upset Helen, though new Helen is so different who knows what she'll think. And anyway, no good reason for feeling she's missed out on having a daughter. It's never bothered me and I positively love having 4 sons. BUT it will affect how the daft GPs respond. No idea of the details but there are lots of options for PatnTone to be irrationally pleased with a GD 'at last'.

I also think K wll refuse to marry Tom. Lots of people - PatnTone, Helen, Tom himself and local 'chat' - will expect a wedding. 'Honest wimmmin' and all. But K will let the baby and Tom have lots of contact and it will be very amicable but she will refuse the bastard that jilted her at the last minute. It gives much more scope for better SLs that way, likw to think so anyway. Maybe Patrick would be a lovely live-in step dad?

And a happy new year to one and all on this thread.

I am hoping Kirsty has a 'difficult' baby and gets royally fucked off with Helen telling her she's doing it all wrong

I'd like to think Kirsty will ban pink.

I'm not Team Jill either at present. but not liking any of them much and hoping the SL reaches its climax soon. I also predict whn Jill eventually shuffles off, David will expect to grieve much more thn Ruth was 'allowed' to do.

I'm another who got pregnant with one careless shag, in my mid-30s, and with an untreated underactive thyroid.

You've rumbled me, usernumber. I worry some times that I am Shula. We're only a few months apart in age and our DSs are only a few days apart.

I've worked it out. Pat will become excessively interfering. You've seen/heard nuffink yet, folks. Baby will be a girl, Pat will keep buying pink clothes and K will refuse to use them. Tom will be caught in the middle, trying to keep everyone happy and failing miserably.

Then they'll both feel the need to post on AIBU, separately.

As for Dr Locke, a sexual r/ship with a vulnerable patient is such a biggie that his reputation was ruined back then. Why is he back in Ambridge anyway? There must be some cunning plan, or else the actor needed work and has a friend in the BBC.

Pat isn't a 'pink' person. I think she'll be a fantastic grandmother to Tom & Kirsty's baby, and will rediscover her feminist side.

Why is 'pink' a problem? It's only a fad, in the Georgian times it was blue for girls and pink for boys fgs.

If she has a girl will she be put in boiler suits and made to play with cars? Let the kid be what she wants to be (rant over) .

Pink as a colour isn't a problem. Pink as a way of encouraging people to treat boys and girls differently from birth is a problem.

Boiler suits are the height of foolishness for any child who hasn't yet mastered bladder control. Cars, on the other hand, are brilliant toys which most children love to play with.

So probably the baby, boy or girl, will be dressed in comfortable clothes and given cars to play with.

"Why is 'pink' a problem? It's only a fad, in the Georgian times it was blue for girls and pink for boys fgs."

Pop over to FWR. Lots of threads explaining.

Pink is certainoly not a problem for me. But it can be a point of dispute for some families. I did consider Pat's feminist credentials but feel no confidence that mindset ill be restored to Pat any time soon. We'll just have to see ....