As the Archers threads age like a fine wine, or a cheese, come and join us - it's nearly time for the Ambridge Flower and Produce show

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Hopefully we can go back to an ordinary tale of country folk?

Spoilers are frowned upon.... There's a thread for that.

So who's on Jill's list?

Toby
Rex (to be thorough)
Alastair
Toby
Knob (on behalf of the village)
Toby
David (for the great move north angst)
Toby

...anybody else?

What has Alistair done to make Jill dislike him? I know he had gambling ishoos, but dear god, the poor bloke is married to that pious slug Shula. I"d have turned to Russian roulette in his shoes. That said, if he's so pissed off with her and his lot in life he could do the decent thing and divorce.

Someone slightly randomly asked if anyone had had a hip replacement- yes, phil did and was able to continue as a pretty active farmer afterwards iirc.

I think D&Rs final comment on that epi means that either jill is developing dementia (its common enough by that age not to be 'recycling' a plotline)or that they will suspect she is but actually shes quite reasonably pissed off with fairbrothers in general and rationally mistrustful of Toby. Maybe she will find herself unexpectedly allied with Rex.

All 4 of her annoying offspring?
And Carole for winning the FF prize?

Annie, that would be extraordinary, Jill Archer on the rampage, like something out of Suburban Shootout (loved that show).

Bens around, but he can't speak at the moment because he's damaged his throat with burnt toast fumes.

Plus his mouth is full of cake.

I thought he was still locked in the cereal cupboard?

If I was Ruth or David I'd be livid with Pip.

Oh yes... She could leave her cottage to the chairman of the local beekeepers and pip can have her collection of jam jars.

Thanks Northernlurker I didn't realise Grace cast such a shadow but whatever Jill was feeling was deeply felt. Pip's a pain. Named after Phil of course.

northernlurker you nailed it

Don't think Jill ever found out extent of Alistairs gambling problems but we do - £100,000 of Shula's money. Yup put him on the hit list too.

Jill really out of character, on the other hand it might have just taken nearly 60 years for her to blow a gasket. It happens like that sometimes with pleasantly repressed Englishwomen.

I just don't understand Pip's attitude to Toby. Her parents make out that she's in love, but she doesn't show any sign of it. However, she seems to be prepared to tolerate any and all dickhead behaviour from him. There haven't been any repercussions from her about him failing to keep his promise about telling Rex, have there? When you look at the way she never lets David hear the end of it for the tiniest mistake, it's distinctly weird.

I thought Jill was being plain nasty to Pip, and it isn't the first time she has shown this side.

Why does "Grace" give Jill carte blanche to be nasty to Pip about Toby? Grace died before Jill married Phil!

I agree; Grace died 50 years ago! Jill needs to do some mindfulness practise and stop dwelling on past wrongs.

Approaching thread max - any ideas for next title? Perhaps a cricketing metaphor something along the lines of Time for Rob to be bowled out or over while others lose the plot?

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"the poor bloke is married to that pious slug Shula. I"d have turned to Russian roulette in his shoes."

at pious slug.

"hy does "Grace" give Jill carte blanche to be nasty to Pip about Toby? Grace died before Jill married Phil!"

It's not that. It's about what Robin did to Lizzie. If that had happened to your dd how would you feel about your beloved grand daughter sleepwalking into a relationship with Robin's son, who is obviously another generation of charming waster. And she is sleepwalking- he behaves appallingly and she never once calls him up on it.........

When I'm 86 I hope my family would have the grace to let me choose who does and doesn't come to my effing party.

Did we clock how Toby's immediate reaction to Rex finding out was to lie and say Pip made all the running? He's going to keep doing that. Shades of Knob's misogyny there.