Orange Is The New Black in Ambridge. Just ask Helen. But will anyone in The Archers ever ask her WHY?

[PseudoBadger]

I reckon this thread will see us through the Euros, both footy and referendum. Await the clunky topical inserts here.

But most children sound mainly like their parents, I reckon. So the most likely thing would have been for Pip to pick up a few Borsetshire vowel sounds at school, but mainly to be influenced by her family. My dd sounds most noticeably Northern after a residential trip, but still says barth and grarss more often than not.

So really, she should be a little bit RP, a little bit Geordie, and little bit Grundy - but instead, she's a little bit 40, a little bit Brummy, and a little bit like nothing a human has ever sounded like.

I sound nothing like either of my parents - one strong foreign accent and one strong regional accent. I'm rp. Went to international schools and otherwise in the the south. I think you tend to pick up what's around you - school or work too.

Alice is beyond standard rp though. She is lurching into aristocrat posh. I would expect her to sound more like Adam and Debbie and Kate. She would have toned her accent down at university as well. Of course she could be working for the worlds poshest engineering firm!

Pip is just off the wall because the actress seems to have no idea what she is doing. It's like a bad school production when she is on with the fairbrothers

Alice just sounds so Jack Wills. I cannot picture her without a gilet.

Yes, I think you do pick up what's around and then sort of flatten and merge it all, in most cases. But just when I think Pip is meant to sound generically Archer in the manner of Helen etc, she does some utterly peculiar vowel. I wish they'd have a word!

She needs a voice coach

Which begs the question why did soc make such a big deal of only hiring trained actors when he went and picked either relatives of big names or 'works in progress' (being generous)

I don't understand it, Daisy Badger (Pip) is perfectly OK in Home Fires and on that she's playing against her roots by being a bit Northern (Cheshire), and her accent is fine. In RL she's from Worcestershire FFS, perfect for TA. I don't get it.

I just LA to last weeks' film and (I admit I haven't read ALL of this thread) BUT NO ONE mentioned Justin HAS been Justin LIL !!!! ]grin]

Their dirty weekend sounded fun

Hmm ... It may have been "fun". I think the well judged word used on the last thread was "commercial" ppeat. And not terribly Lil-like.

Oh very Lil like IMO, Gruach (blimey it's Simon Williams fgs!!! the only reservation I had was that they both seem bit long in the tooth esp. for the 'up all night' bit

C'mon now everything is getting a bit negative on here to say the least.

I grew up in real life Borsetshire, went to the local comp, and I sound nothing like the Grundies!!!! My accent is basically RP.

Well it depends on your parents Alicekeach I LIVE in Amb. (the french version) and I think I can speak french until I start talking to the locals, you could cut their accents with a knife

ppeat

I wonder whether with Pip they wanted the new actress to sound completely different to the old one with her nasally demanding whine. Hence we got Pip who sounded like a bloke. Then they decided that wasn't working so they got her to come up the register a bit and now she's just wanders around everywhere.

I've noticed how different the experience of LISTENING to the radio is to watching telly, I often watch with eyes closed to hear properly. Which is probably why Daisy Badger's\Pip's voice is annoying on the radio and not on the box.

Radio acting is very different from tv acting. I'm sure daisy badger is a very good screen actor but that doesn't always translate into being able to do radio acting.

I actually liked Pip in the last episode at the end. When they gave her something to say that was most definitely not seductive - it sounded quite good (telling Toby just how wrong his dvd was).

I think Alice and Adam actually sound equally posh, and I think she may have gone to a smarter school than some of her siblings.

gypsy ppeat anti yes, I've been thinking it's a combination of all three. Not a natural radio actor, badly directed, and voice being more noticeable on radio than tv.

Archer offspring schools:

Jennifer, Lilian, Tony - don't know, it was before my time, but not posh as Jack and Peggy wouldn't have had the money for that. Possibly grammar school in Borchester.

Kenton and Shula - definitely grammar school in Borchester.
David - boarding school. Ag college.
Elizabeth - boarding school, Borchester FE college for A levels (dropped out quite early).
I think boarding school was decided on for the younger two because D and E were not going to pass the 11+. In E's case she had lots of time off school because of her heart condition. In D's case he's just not all that bright.

Bridge Farm offspring - state primary (Loxley Barratt or poss Ambridge - can't remember when Ambridge lost its own primary school, but before I was listening, I think). Borchester Green. John went off to state boarding school with an agricultural specialism when he was about 14. Peggy paid the boarding fees. Not sure if Helen did that too. Tom didn't. Helen went on to Reeseheath ag college (sp). Tom dropped out of FE at quite an early stage, as did John, IIRC.

Pip, Josh, Ben - Loxley Barratt, Borchester Green, Borchester FE/sixth form college.

Adam - prep school (boarding I assume - before my time), Sherborne (boarding public school), Newcastle University to do agricultural economics
Debbie - Cheltenham Ladies' College, Exeter (French), dropped out in second year.
Kate - CLC again, asked to leave or poss not to return, didn't get any A levels. Don't get me started on Felpersham taking her to do a degree level qualification with that background and nothing much to add from her adult life!
Alice - local girls' day school. Insisted on leaving at 16 and transferring to Borchester FE/sixth form college. Southampton University to do engineering degree. Felpersham for Master's.

Missed out that Alice's school was private (St Margaret's).

Her accent is way too posh for her to have been through a sixth form college and uni. She would have toned it down. Of all of them, she has probably been exposed the most to social environments with varying uk accents.

Helen seems to be upping the accent as well - trying to make sure the gap between her and caz seems wider?

"Her accent is way too posh for her to have been through a sixth form college and uni. She would have toned it down."

Really? She doesn't seem stand out posh to me.

Ah, it was Kate expelled not Lizzie. (Knew I could count on you Gasp0.)

It's disappointing. They did so well sending Alice to Southampton rather than Exeter or St Andrews - and now they seem minded to dismantle the beautiful structure they'd built.

Really? I'm considered posh but Alice just has it a step above. I don't think she always did though so I was quite surprised

I understand she's a nanny when not being Alice. She makes me think of Mary poppins!!

Ah. I'm posh and old which probably means a bit posher than if I were younger......

Actually her accent reminds me of mine when I speak to some American friends of ours. I don't know why but a cross between nervousness and their expectations push me towards speaking like the queen. And then I get asked if I live in castles and stuff and get asked to repeat words like 'marquee'.

And then dh asks me why I do that!!

When Alice was at Southampton she hung out with some rather posh young ones including the chap who had the student loan scam running on the side and had a massive thing for Alice. It was one of Amex's stories; I don't remember much more about it.