Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Radio/podcast addicts

Discuss your favourite podcast, radio show or The Archers episode.

Discuss The Archers here. There's hut construction, new teen arrivals, pastured eggs, pining Pip and other fun Spring-like stories to choose from.

999 replies

PseudoBadger · 13/03/2016 18:57

Maybe if we don't look directly at the other storyline it will disappear?

OP posts:
Gruach · 18/03/2016 09:55

Ok, I'm obsessed - interesting about the Christian Brothers (though I'm sure everything I don't really know about them is outdated and wrong ...).

As I remember it Seek they might have considered the Cathedral School for Ruairi but once they'd decided on boarding they were naturally able to look further afield. They did what normal people do - got on the Internet and gutted a hundred websites, narrowed it down, visited with Ruairi and then applied. It was actually rather beautifully done - they worked as a reasonably harmonious team I recall and it was all quite stress free.

(Perhaps I should pluck up the courage to listen to last night's episode - and get on with life - rather than procrastinating here.)

KathyBeale · 18/03/2016 09:56

I don't know anything about boarding schools but I'm fairly old and have met lots of people in my life, including many, many people who went to private school. As far as I know, I've only ever met one person who went to boarding school. Maybe two. At university (20 ish years ago).

So from this unscientific sample I'm assuming that a very tiny percentage of people have any sort of knowledge of boarding schools other than Malory Towers and Hogwarts.

I googled 'boarding school year one' and found ukboardingschools.com which told me a very small number of schools offer boarding for pre-prep (which, I discovered, is 4--7). That's good enough for me. It's possible, therefore it's possible Rob's old school is one of them. If I was the writer, I'd throw in a line like: "Oh aren't we lucky my school is one of the few that offer boarding so young..." Bob's your uncle.

Butteredparsnips · 18/03/2016 10:20

kingscote your line about Knobs father under the patio made me laugh out loud.

Cludo - Rob, in the culvert, with the bunting.

LillianGish · 18/03/2016 10:21

Henwee's going to boarding school is just a metaphor for Knob's Knobbishness. He sucked up to him and smarmed him and played the perfect dad to win Helen's heart (and the approval of those looking from the outside who secretly thought it was a shame Henwee didn't have a real dad). Now he's served his purpose Knob needs to get rid of him with boarding school being the obvious solution - it's rather inconvenient that he's too young, but I think for the sake of following the new-style Archers we need to stop trying to over-think it and see that this will probably be the straw that breaks the camel's back when Henwee spills the beans and Helen refuses to countenance sending her beloved son away (and we can. Be sure of support from Pat who doesn't like private schools).

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/03/2016 10:22

Kathy, I agree that only a minuscule proportion of the UK population have firsthand experience of boarding*, but it can't be that much less than the proportion that has firsthand experience of farming. For farming, they take the trouble to have an agricultural story editor and to distribute packs of information to the writers. For some other issues, they go off and consult experts and try to build storylines out of what they learn (they've done it with EA and with lots of health-related issues). For anything education-related, far more often than not, they just wing it. It's infuriating! But yes, if they've decided to go down the route of having Rob's old school taking tiny tots as boarders, they should definitely have put in a line about how unusual this is. That would have appeased me.

*Although given how often it comes up in memoirs and fiction from earlier times, one does tend to pick up some ideas about it - and I imagine SOC is relying on that secondhand knowledge for this sl.

LillianGish · 18/03/2016 10:23

It's sort of combining the two boarding school literary stereotypes - the kind of school where unwanted children are banished (which is what we're all thinking) and the Mallory Towers, jolly good fun which is how Knob will try to portray it.

Kr1stina · 18/03/2016 10:29

Personally I'm not a boarding school fan. But I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the SW should do their research properly and represent things reasonably and accurately .

The fact that's it's a " minority interest" makes it even more important that they should be fair in their portrayal

Gruach · 18/03/2016 10:33

Yay! My cut price Archers books have (finally) been despatched.

Soon my posts will be error free ...

BertrandRussell · 18/03/2016 10:38

There are boarding schools that accept very young children.
There are children who are sent to boarding school because they are inconvenient.
This does not mean they all do or they all are.
The Archers is not a public information broadcast on behalf of the Headmaster's and Headmistress' Conference!

DadDadDad · 18/03/2016 10:40

Has anyone considered that Henry might be happy and thrive at boarding school? Shock (I'm not an advocate for BS but it's a possibility that he does well away from his dysfunctional parents...)

BYOSnowman · 18/03/2016 10:47

We will know patbots transformation is complete if she doesn't rip robs head off for even daring to suggest her dgs goes boarding AND TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 18/03/2016 10:55

DadDadDad somehow I don't think that's the direction they're going in, with this!

Good luck to whoever washes the sheets in that school, I say!

I could see Pat saying 'well, if Rob thinks it's best, and after all it didn't do him any harm, FAR FROM IT!', but I'd expect Tony to have something to say about Henwee being sent away.

Fink · 18/03/2016 11:01

A bit off-topic, but I recently found out that the state boarding sector in the UK has been expanded to include free schools and academies which offer boarding. Scary.

Kr1stina · 18/03/2016 11:03

No daddaddad I've not considered it . Because he's just turned 5 and I don't think there's much evidence that 5 year olds like Henry thrive and are happy at BS.

It might be right for some 11 year olds , but that's a question for another MN board

Putthetulipsthere · 18/03/2016 11:06

I went to boarding school & so did DP. I went at 11 - the earliest you could go was 8 & DP went at 8. Many children I knew had parents in the forces or working abroad. But even then ( & I'm 50 now!) I never came across anyone who'd been sent to BS younger than 8. Yes it's unrealistic but not surprising are there are so many holes in TA these days.

Knob sending Henwee to boarding school allows him to carry on the abuse more easily (oh no I'm actually beginning to think like. SOC now😁). The problem for a lot of us here is that it's unrealistic, as what school would take year 1 pupils? They would know it's far too young 😡😡 - no matter what Google says!

DadDadDad · 18/03/2016 11:20

To be clear, I couldn't really comprehend anyone (who is not working abroad) sending a 8yo to BS let alone a 5yo, so I admit I was just trying to be a bit provocative with my previous comment. Blush Debates about the merits of BS are probably best left to another thread.

JapanNextYear · 18/03/2016 11:21

My mum sent my brother at 7. We lived about 10 miles down the road. He's still a little miffed about it.

squeaver · 18/03/2016 11:25

He's sending Ursula home so that he can say to Helen, "Look what I've done for you, I've sent my mother home like you asked". And she'll be all grateful again, so just when there was a glimmer of hope it gets snatched away again.

I tell you, this story is not ending any time soon.

lljkk · 18/03/2016 11:30

WWYD if you were Kirsty

I'd probably immediately break the no-telling promise about the slap. Or refuse to promise at all & tell her why. I'd see it as being complicit in her situation (in her abuse even) to do anything else. I wouldn't seek any particular action, but no way I'm keeping secrets about someone I know is loathesome (It's Rob's secret, after all, not Hell's).

I'm a bit of a shit, really. Or just very weak. There are so many dysfunctional people in my family: I can't fix them & would make me very mentally ill to play along with games, secrets & warped norms. Can't go there. I'd detach first.

Knob loathes his mother. Only tolerated her for the minimum time required.

dreame · 18/03/2016 11:31

Japan - understandably so! 10 miles!!!

Gruach · 18/03/2016 11:39

Does he know something we don't?

Radio Times article. NOT A SPOILER - just speculation.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/03/2016 12:00

There are boarding schools that accept very young children.
There are children who are sent to boarding school because they are inconvenient.
This does not mean they all do or they all are.
The Archers is not a public information broadcast on behalf of the Headmaster's and Headmistress' Conference!

Bertrand, of course not. But TA is supposed to be a realistic soap. They take great pride in the awards they won for various mental health storylines, e.g. Jack's Alzheimer's. In those cases, having gone to some lengths to find out what was typical, they tried to stick to that, broadly.

But on this key aspect of a major storyline they've either done no research at all or they ignored what they found out, because they wanted to pretend that Dotheboys Hall lives. It's a jarring note in what otherwise appears to have been a well-researched and realised storyline.

I'm not saying this because I'm a great advocate of boarding or independent schools. I've been equally critical of their inability to get other stuff right, often involving state schools. And they certainly don't get all the health stuff right, either. Helen's pre-eclampsia last time was a case in point - everybody very worried for a few hours, then suddenly everybody behaving as if the C section had sorted it all out, when in fact she would have been intensively monitored for days and days afterwards.

Stickerrocks · 18/03/2016 12:33

I don't think the boarding school thing is a major story line. It's just a means to an end of controlling Helen. We Don't agonize over Lily, Freddie, George, Ben and the rest of them, rarely hear about parent evenings, school plays or academy status etc. I don't care whether it is feasible for Henry to start boarding in year 1, in the same way as I didn't care if Linda could get a licence to perform Calendar Girls. It's simply a way for Rob to treat Henry as a Cinderella character compared to SoK. It will be forgotten about soon enough.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 18/03/2016 12:40

Well I think basically it's happening in order to be the last straw for Helen, surely? Ie., the thing up with which she will not put, and then snaps into normality (hopeful).

spiker · 18/03/2016 12:46

Yes - boarding school is just an engineered red-line of hellin's for knob to cross.

Do you think SOC slipped in that 'over feminised upbringing' line purely to wind up us lot?Grin