Follow the subtle trail towards the Christmas storyline climaxes in Ambridge - discuss The Archers here

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So many possibilities.... A visit from the Titcheners Snr? Baby of the wrong gender? A ruined wedding? Re-housed Grundys? RuthRex?

Bore

That wasupposed to be taking on Knob

That's true -where did Ben get the cereal to enable him to rearrange it?

Who knows BYOS?

Anyone else wondering if the SWs have come from a 'pick your own path' book school of writing? Or maybe they have a different take on the glass bowl/dinner party game? Instead of car keys they have bits of script in the bowl?

And why do I feel that the name jez isn't quite appropriate for an ai specialist?

I don't know if anyone on here watched it, but I reckon artificially inseminating cows on TA is exactly the sort of thing Jeremy from Peep Show would end up doing.

I can't take the credit Gypsy, it was BYOS

You know I thought that Jill is going to be the props manager in Cal. Girls and use the tins as a way to 'hide ' the ladies' blushes in the photos!!

That 'Rob goes mental' video is absolute genius. Thanks babybarrister.

Great link BB and I have to post here as there is nobody in my world who would understand why I am laughing so much. DP just does impressions of Joe and Bert and cackles a lot! He worked as a BBC engineer for 35 years but never worked on TA to my disappointment.

Both the Fairbrethren are so dull it is hard to imagine Pip finding them sexy, but there again she does live in Ambridge and there isn't much competition.

the annoying woman on fourthought reminds of pip in her delivery

i hate fourthought - where do they find these people? they all manage to sound so self satisfied and superior

I really can't see how it was rude of Jill to rearrange the cereals. Should my kids drag me back to skivvy for them when I'm 85 (they won't), I'll arrange the kitchen how I damn well like. And Ben would have been better occupied going out to the supermarket instead of rearranging the kitchen cupboards.

GruntledOne- it's because she's a mother in law! that means that her breathing at the wrong moment is being rude/controlling/entitled..........

I was thinking that bertrand Ruth is starting to sound like a prine candidate for an AIBU MIL thread.

Not only did she rearrange my cupboards. So inconsiderate when I was keeping them as a meemorial to me late mam but she eeven bought Champers for wor DDs graduation. AIBU to think she should butt out. She is taking over and DH is just letting her.

That is bloody brilliant BabyB :o And I guffawed at the make your own SL thing Iorek - that's exactly what it's like!

Someone should put Ruth in a cupboard. She'd probably be in there for about a week before anyone actually noticed

That was the most unconvincing episode yet. Jill's only been away a few weeks - inconceivable that the kitchen would have been rearranged in that time and certainly not by a teenage boy. SOC desperately trying to create discord between Ruth and Jill when Jill and Ruth lived together perfectly happily before and Ruth begged Jill to come back to do precisely what we are now supposed to believe she is furious with her for doing. It appears that SOC is determined to split up Ruth and David as his next plot so that's what will happen by whatever means. Ruth, who didn't have time to buy a packet of cereal let alone put it in the wrong cupboard before Jill came back now mysteriously has nothing to do. It's as if the script is being written by someone who has never listened to the Archers.

Lillian - maybe they haven't

Brookfield's almost becoming a piss-take of itself.

Alternative Archers on Twitter have got it spot-on.

I'm going back to my original theory that soc has been brought in to make the archers so unlistenable no one complains when it's scrapped and they can let Nick grimshaw present a slot at 7pm to attract the yoof crowd to r4

I really can't go along with that theory. TA gets the best listening figures of virtually anything on R4 and they're not going to sabotage that. I think the trouble is that they brought him in to try to bring it more on-trend and they have no understanding of the fact that an Eastenderingisation process cannot ever work with a series on R4 set in the countryside.

I think they have broken the cardinal rule of 'know your audience'

My mother rearranges cupboards and furniture when she comes to visit. It's hugely annoying. I would have thought that Jill would have had plenty to do cleaning up the stour and filth that had accumulated since she and the writing desk left.

It seems there are quite a few of us without someone in rl who also listens to TA. Should we have a badge? Or a secret handshake? Then we'd know each other.

Squeaver that twitter account is hilarious - thanks!

I speak to my dad about the archers. He has picked up on a lot of the nonsense which generally would pass him by!

He was totally confused as to who the controlling man was married to and was astounded it was pat that was being the gushing mil.

It occurred to me that Jill had arranged the Brookfield kitchen to suit herself and had probably taken a huge cupboard right next to the kitchen table for her baking equipment and put the cereal in a high cupboard no one could reach except standing on a chair, because she believes they should be eating porridge and fry ups for breakfast. Once she was out of the house, I expect Ben simply put all the cake tins in a box out in a shed as he knew nobody would use it and put the cereal in a sensible place.

I switch off now if Ruth is talking, she is the most unrelenting moaner and I would be happy if she were taken out by a random act of God putting us all out of our misery.

Loved Tony putting Rob back in his box. Great story line but almost too awful to listen to.

The Grundy story line is so depressing too and Susan talking about getting her gaps out, give me strength.

I wish I could stop listening.