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i'm allowed one more pushchair and thats it !!!!!!!
pramsgalore4 · 14/07/2011 23:20
after much thought i think i am going to go for a uppa baby vista with piggyback board, did consider a britax b smart and a baby jogger city mini 4 wheel, but have thought about it and i need a large basket that will take 2 rucksacks also needs to take a good weight and be parent facing as my dd4 talks alot when facing me but is silent when facing away, she also seems to be alot happier facing me as well. i am not bothered about the size as i walk everywhere, is this a good choice for me because as i said i won't get away with bringing any more through the front door :( have watch loads of demos on youtube and it looks ideal, but i will have to buy blind as no local stockests, also if you do own one who did you buy it off. many thanks :o
MonkeysPunk · 15/07/2011 14:55
And for anyone else reading this thread with a smaller budget - the Uppababy Vista is FANTASTIC for the money, and a gorgeous pushchair to use!
Just did sports day with ours - had DS rf for journey to school - then ff for sports day (lots of waiting around beforehand and a long play in the playground before attending), then rf again for trip home.
Managed to carry lots in the basket (looked after grandmas bag for her while she played with DS on playing field at school), along with our oi oi hobo sack change bag, and some shopping from tesco!
There were a few Bugaboo Cameleons there (indeed I used to own one!), and the basket beneath just looks titchy compared to the vista shopping basket now!....also they look really "low down" - the vista seat sits nice and high - giving lots of easy access to basket beneath - but making child nearer to you for conversation.
The vista does zip along as easily as a Bugaboo Bee+ does - with marginally less "bounce" - but the Vista copes far better with the grass playing field, lumpy pavements, kerbs, plus in RF your child has a footrest still - I had to sell our Bee+ (yup - had one of those also!) because I still wanted ds rf - and his feet were almost trailing along the floor due to lack of footrest rf!
It's faster and easier to turn the seat on the vista than it is on the bugaboo prams.
I love how simple the Vista is to use - it's extremely user-friendly in terms of folding, setting up again, turning the seat, laying back or sitting up the seat, plus it has a bigger stronger basket beneath and the seat unit has adjustable calf rest - making it really easy to seat your child very comfortably. Also seat unit has 4 layback positions.
It's super easy to push along - the wheels are really good quality and the puncture proof tyres have a rubber outer. The suspension is good, and the fabrics of the seat have a stunning sheen - especially lovely in the bright sunlight.
Later this year - we are supposed to be able to buy "colour change fabric packs" of new seat and hood fabrics to change the colours - they retailed in the USA at $99 - so I'm guessing £79GBP when they come out here.
I'm also anticipating the arrival of the snack tray soon - another useful extra vista have added to their range.
I've not used the pram top due to age of child - but it's fabulous and organically lined in a naturally antibacterial fabric - and has it's own apron and hood.
The pram top on the vista also sits higher than the pram top on the bugaboo (which seemed really low when I saw someones today - the bugaboo pram top was about knee height!). I personally prefer the pram top higher - out of reach of pets, nearer to me, and easier to lift baby in and out without straining my back!
If you cannot afford the beautiful Kobi - do look at the Vista! I think it's brilliant! [hgrin]
pramsgalore4 · 15/07/2011 15:48
:( heard back from jl and the cosmo will be in store sometime in august but don't know when and it could be later she said it is just an estimate for august but if i phoned back end of july they may know more, i can not wait till then, don't know if cheeky rascals would sell direct to me. she has given me the stock numbers so i can order it and if it does take longer i can change my order for the grey. don't know what to do. the vista does sound lovely and would be ideal. but i have the mima bug and don't know how to cure it :o
:o thats really bad i feel ashamed but she might get one before me 
MonkeysPunk · 16/07/2011 08:21
Hi, sorry to say I haven't taken my Vista on public transport yet.. it does fold very neatly in one piece with seat forward facing and will stand alone.
The widest part is the rear wheels, in use around the corner shop or our crowded school paths its been fine, no problems.
It's easy manouverability makes up for the width of rear wheels.
It looks more imposing than say a cameleon in use due to seat height. Visually it looks bigger because of that but in reality its not taking up much more room. It has a huge advantage of folding in one piece so you could take it on the bus knowing its very quick and easy to fold if you need to.
Folicacid · 16/07/2011 10:21
I really like it in person but can't help but think it seems like a big beast in comparison to other systems! I wouldn't want to not be able to get it on a bus easily, although the fold down in one mechanism is great. I love that it is so high in comparison to others. Feels like wouldn't have to bend down too much and also baby would have as great view.
This is my first so I'm totally clueless really 
Thanks.
pramsgalore4 · 16/07/2011 11:09
i could not see it being a problem on a bus as long as the buses you use have wheel chair and buggy parking places [you would have to move if a wheel chair got on] i have taken on a phil and teds on the bus with no problems and there was a pram on the same bus, we would have been stuffed if a wheel chair user had got on though. usually the bus driver will tell you if there is no room and you would either have to fold or wait for the next one which i have done when i had a bugaboo as it was a two piece fold so not a chance of folding. the xari is a top of the range pushchair and is the pushchair to have it is jaw dropping lovely, i have owned a stokke xplory and these are higher than others and it really is a great advantage, i am getting a xari soon and will let you know all about it. i walk everywhere so a large pushchair is not a problem for me anyway. just out of interest what did you think of the baskets where they really small or not a bad size, i have not been to see one yet, have watched loads on the internet but not been to jl
aswellasyou · 16/07/2011 11:22
I'd say the basket aren't amazingly big to be honest. The front one fits the raincover perfectly. The back one would hold a few things like bottle, jacket, a couple of toys, etc. I don't tend to use baskets that much myself-I just hang things off the handle. I really want either of them in white. I wish they supplied them here so I could at least have a look.
Guildfordnanny · 16/07/2011 11:46
I only have sketchy knowledge but I think there is something in the UK rules and regulations that say footrests have to be black or something. Even if it doesn't specifically say that I know UK regulations are strict re fire regulations and one distributor was telling me that some colours don't fire retardant well which is why some parts eg seats and footrests may be black when they are different in other colours! What I am trying to say is we may never get the pure white here.
Guildfordnanny · 16/07/2011 12:04
It isn't on the list I have read for the new attachments. I believe the Baby Jogger City Mini, Chameleon, Nipper and Phil&Teds are the new ones. Doesn't the vista have a floating arch axle rather than a normal horizontal one so I doubt it would fit anyway? I like the piggy back because it is so close to the Pushchair and the Childs head fits inside the handle!
pramsgalore4 · 16/07/2011 13:56
re the white, i have been told it is fire regs and because of our weather, yes the weather, nice and sunny in spain, rainy and dull here, [ there would be a greater chance of getting dirty] the stores don't think there is the market for that colour, so no they prob won't ever be over here in white. :(
suzie38 · 17/07/2011 21:38
pramsgalore have you seen the Xari in person yet??? Have you ordered it??? If so how long will it take for delivery??? Sorry for so many questions but i'm thinking of getting one...I guess i need to see one in real life before ordering because it's a lot of money if i don't actually it...How much is the Cosmo version???
pramsgalore4 · 17/07/2011 21:56
Hi, i am awaiting a phone call about geting one, i have not seen one in person yet, have spoken to a very nice man who has told me alot about them though. the cosmo is the same price £850 in total and will be in jl sometime in august but they won't say for sure, you can pre order one and i have the order numbers although she was a little confused when she told me them to what they linked so check when ordering over phone what they come up with, i have order numbers for the cosmo Xari and what she got confussed about was the seat pads [she called these starter packs] i have an order number for one in cosmo and one in black, i did not think they did them in cosmo. 
pramsgalore4 · 17/07/2011 22:11
yes they do, but jl have them on different order numbers, which is why she called it a package, but it still works out at £850. she got very confused because when she brought up the xari on the system the price was 750 but on the shop floor it said 850 and it is because the inserts are seperate on the system, she got really confused but phoned me back and explained. I bet its because you can buy the inserts on their own, so it would work out easier for them to have them on their own order number.
Guildfordnanny · 17/07/2011 23:29
Aha..the website has changed since I last looked at it where everything was listed as an extra. There are now packages on there.
The Xari and Kobi as a chassis come without the seat pads and harnesses ie it would just be plain grey, black or silver material with no harness or pads.
The starter kit includes the carrycot apron and mattress as well as the seat pad and harness. The comfort pack is just the seat pad and harness.
So it looks like you get the starter kit included as well as the raincover.
Just one other thing....with the Kobi you can buy a seat without a carrycot in. So it may be worth asking if it is possible to buy a Xari with the seat only option ie no carrycot inside if you just have a toddler. Not only would it be cheaper but also lighter to carry around and push. They may well not do one though with it being a single pushchair. It is worth an ask!
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