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Unbearably hot flat (leaseholder) why can’t AC be allowed if health risk

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FTBregret · Today 13:10

Londoner, stupidly bought a new-ish build flat that is like a greenhouse (I viewed it in winter). My flat can reach up to 39°c inside and I despise this flat regret buying but can’t go back and it’s not a suitable time for me to sell. During summer I try to avoid staying at home for too long. I’m disabled live alone, regularly feel unwell, have previously fainted, got dizzy spells, and barely sleep but my housing Clarion couldn’t care less

I keep all windows shut during the day but open them at night (single aspect windows so not much breeze). Sometimes I’ll also put fan with ice facing out the open window at night too but barely does much.

I purchased portable AC but it’s inefficient, it doesn’t cool the overall room well enough and you only feel cool if you stand right in front of it. Also I can’t keep windows open all day for safety reasons. Americans claim single hose portable acs which are commonplace in UK are inefficient compared to dual hose (can’t find dual in Uk), there’s some science behind it. Makes sense as my portable ac is no where near as good as split ac or even my friends flat (no ac) who has cross ventilation

Desperately want split ac and/or external shutters but as a leaseholder it won’t be allowed. Why is it not considered as a health safety risk to have to live in these temps as a disabled adult

I’m sure many will comment to tell me I’m being ridiculous and lacking resilience but I have relatives who live in Arizona who wouldn’t sleep in temps above 23°c… why do we have to suffer like this in a first world country

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mathanxiety · Today 20:12

You could buy an oscillating 16" stand fan and at least have circulating air.

I live in the US in an old apartment building built before the advent of central air. I have powerful window AC units but I set them at about 85°F (about 27°C) if I turn them on. I prefer to just use my stand fans to circulate air, even when the temperature is much higher than that.

FTBregret · Today 20:24

CandidHedgehog · Today 17:41

Just to warn people - if you put foil on the inside of windows, this can cause the window to crack. The foil needs to be on the outside.

thank you for this! Do you think the same risk applies to window films? I ordered these window films off amazon but I can only apply them inside not externally (not a ground floor flat)

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0G6L1Q7KT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1WMN1VBS875MG&psc=1

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MrsCarmelaSoprano · Today 20:31

FTBregret · Today 16:14

I have Meaco MeacoCool Pro Series 10,000 btu Portable Air Conditioner, it was around £350. It will cool you if you stand/sit directly in front of it but overall I’ve not found it to be that great

It came with this hard window panel (not sure of the material) made for sash windows which sadly I don’t have

The alternative window seal kit is pretty flimsy and basic plastic that you zip around so that doesn’t help

I just put the hose out the window and draw the curtains round mine. Do you shut the doors to the room it's in?

deplorabelle · Today 20:48

Abracadabra12345 · Today 19:37

This is exactly what I did with my home office. I think I got the tip on MN!

I've shared the tip before but t loads of people must have thought of it

saraclara · Today 20:50

PressureImplosion · Today 19:38

As a HA tenant just get the AC fitted!

How often do they come into your home??

How would they even know?

They will find out. My friend bought a leasehold flat in London, and it's inspected at least annually, for fire safety.

saraclara · Today 20:54

This is a problem with many newer buildsLondon flats. Google it and you'll get a load of results where leasehold flat owners are having the same issues as OP.

I've read about it multiple times, and residents are feeling absolutely miserable.

saltyseaswimmer · Today 21:32

After many years of just reading posts, I have joined this evening to reply to yours. Last year I was stuck in a similar flat and it drove me completely mad. 29 degrees by 9am, couldn’t use the dishwasher as it produced too much heat, couldn’t open the blinds all day as it was too bright … it’s insane how builders are getting away with putting people’s health at risk like this. I hope some of the ideas here work so you can get some rest.

JenniferBooth · Today 21:39

saltyseaswimmer · Today 21:32

After many years of just reading posts, I have joined this evening to reply to yours. Last year I was stuck in a similar flat and it drove me completely mad. 29 degrees by 9am, couldn’t use the dishwasher as it produced too much heat, couldn’t open the blinds all day as it was too bright … it’s insane how builders are getting away with putting people’s health at risk like this. I hope some of the ideas here work so you can get some rest.

Exactly You cant live a normal life
Cant put make up on ............concentrating makes me even hotter
Cant cook...............creates more heat Cant have the TV on. Have to keep an eye on the fridge freezer because it usually cant cope. Ditto the food stored in the hall cupboard. Cant keep food in the kitchen cupboard as it gets too hot Not everything is meant to be stored in the fridge and even if we tried it = even more pressure on the fridge freezer along with the heat.

saltyseaswimmer · Today 21:45

JenniferBooth · Today 21:39

Exactly You cant live a normal life
Cant put make up on ............concentrating makes me even hotter
Cant cook...............creates more heat Cant have the TV on. Have to keep an eye on the fridge freezer because it usually cant cope. Ditto the food stored in the hall cupboard. Cant keep food in the kitchen cupboard as it gets too hot Not everything is meant to be stored in the fridge and even if we tried it = even more pressure on the fridge freezer along with the heat.

I’d forgotten about the fridge - mine was almost new but constantly straining and chucking out hot air to try and cool itself down.

FTBregret · Today 22:01

saraclara · Today 20:54

This is a problem with many newer buildsLondon flats. Google it and you'll get a load of results where leasehold flat owners are having the same issues as OP.

I've read about it multiple times, and residents are feeling absolutely miserable.

Edited

Just read a bbc article where tenants in Woolwich flat block had indoor temps up to 43c. Children and elderly lived in the block

Their corridor temp had even reached 48c in the summer, so awful

When will the government and housing associations take action? Although was skimming through another popular MN thread today and saw many comments saying it’s not that hot, everyone coped fine in 1976, this generation simply lacks resilience 🫠 no wonder not a priority when many are ignorant of how hot some flats get

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FTBregret · Today 22:06

JenniferBooth · Today 21:39

Exactly You cant live a normal life
Cant put make up on ............concentrating makes me even hotter
Cant cook...............creates more heat Cant have the TV on. Have to keep an eye on the fridge freezer because it usually cant cope. Ditto the food stored in the hall cupboard. Cant keep food in the kitchen cupboard as it gets too hot Not everything is meant to be stored in the fridge and even if we tried it = even more pressure on the fridge freezer along with the heat.

Can relate, I can’t look presentable at all, can’t do housework or laundry except at night but then usually too tired because I’ve been sleep deprived with the heat too

Can’t concentrate or think much. I end up eating out more too to avoid heat and similarly I can’t keep much food in cupboards at these temps

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