New build on a new estate and social housing. I expect I’ll get torn to shreds but can I have your experiences please?

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We are looking at buying the last house on a street that backs on to an area of the new estate that will be 50 plus houses owned by a housing association.
The house will be a real bargain, they are throwing all sorts of incentives in as I’m sure they want it sold asap as it will be ready in about 6 weeks time.
The sales advisor explained that the tenants will all be working and they won’t be misbehaving as they will lose their tenancy if they do.
DH thinks it will be fine and we should take a chance but I’m really not sure. Had anyone bought next to AH on a new build estate?

No wonder they act like they do its exolpected so they do go find house you can afford in z lanice place like i live complain about the non crime existent crime the but not exactly where i live because i live next to the coucil houses 😁 buy a different house

I lived very close to it once, I was harassed and bullied, until I decided to leave..

Never again

You will find it very difficult to sell

It's not "desperate " people being complained about, it's lazy, anti-social types.

I hate to say it but I live in a new build with the mandatory "affordable housing" terraces tucked at the end of several roads. The only problems on the estate come from those houses. The feral children ringing doorbells, breaking play equipment, the dog walkers letting their dogs crap on the pavement, the rubbish bins out in public areas instead of being kept in the garden like the rest of us do, the front gardens full of stuff, the noisy cars with straight through exhausts...

There are about 10 in 3 locations, no way would I buy butted up against 50.

To the person who said this is a new problem, it's not.

Our first purchase in 1978 was a nearly new build on an estate with pockets of social housing and that was exactly the same as the estate we're on today, behaviour wise.

Unfortunately the law is complicated and slow to act on antisocial behaviour. I think you have made the right decision to walk away and will be relieved that you did when it all goes horribly wrong.

Just to say, we do regret buying here, but it is a combination of problems with the house, the area not having enough amenities, and bad neighbours. But we have hope for the future now as one bad neighbour left and our other bad neighbours are going. Our other neighbours are lovely. I do believe it is luck of the draw who your neighbours are, and also neighbours may come across as lovely and show their true colours years later also. You cannot judge people because they are social tenants, we used to own a one bedroom flat in an expensive area outright, fell pregnant and had to move to a cheaper area and buy shared ownership to have a family house. I am not a bad person because I am disabled, and private owners can be bad neighbours too.

It's a gamble. However nice the area. It's O.K saying if the tenants misbehave then they lose the tenancy . What kind of crap will you have to put up with before that happens?

A friend lives in Council housing ,zero problems until recently.Noisy NDN police called out and so on .

I moved into a house next door to social housing.
They had and still have music on until 4.00am.
I was bullied out of my home a single female. The Housing Association didn't want to know.

The main issue is that these people who are antisocial and criminal have to be accommodated somewhere, especially when they have children. So councils/HAs will turn a blind eye to all but the very worst behaviour because evicting nightmare families will just mean they are accommodated elsewhere to be a nightmare to other people and the whole cycle starts again.

I wonder if it’s the same house that my sister lives opposite as that’s the only one that is for sale in the entire area of the new build
estate of HA tenants! It’s a nightmare there!!! Feral kids out day and night kicking footballs off all the neighbours cars, smoking drugs and loud music being played 24/7 and shouting and screaming rows at 6am every Saturday morning! She’s just been messaging me ranting about the next door neighbours waking her up at 8am
Sunday morning banging for an hour and she’s reported them multiple times for intimidating behaviour and also the other bloke 2 doors down who’s a right creep and not sure how but half the HA tenants are Ukrainian and men!?? Who legally should
be fighting for their country but have been given brand new houses by our country to live in instead and are not under the same
Rules as everyone else on the HA tenancy as they are being managed by someone else outside of it who overrules the HA person! There’s a Ukrainian man who was meant to be living with his wife and kids but has moved 3 men in instead and they’ve turned each bedroom into a separate apartment - cooker, washing machine etc in every room - so you can imagine the noise the next door neighbours who are attached have to put up with and they are so intimidating to the neighbours they darent say anything to them even when they’ve damaged their cars! My sister is trying to find another rental property asap and has only been there 6 months! Can you imagine the poor family/stupid if they do! - who buy the house on the street with all this going on?

Why are people buying on these estates, knowing the gamble they’re taking?

Depends if you want to live next to a bunch of reform voters.

ok well yeah that’s a long time. Are you in the north east by any chance? Not sure if true, but I hear there’s more HA availability there.

A two bedroom in my block (north west England) was empty for a few months after the resident sadly died but I think it’s been filled now they’ve sorted the door. They had to bash it down to get to her :/

Yeah and I’m not denying that was the reason you got to the top banding.

I won’t repeat myself but the wider points I made using the example of my friend, who doesn’t have a disabled kid and her parents, who all now have a lifetime tenancy in a desirable city (London) still stand.

My initial point was that yes what the poster described as “feckless people” often do get prioritised and it is easier for them.

I didn’t necessarily say they all get the top priority banding. Or it was easy for my friend.

Easi-er doesn’t equal easy.

I grew up on a council estate and I also lived in shared ownership housing that was part shared ownership and part housing authority. I agree with the some of the comments here that you will get a real mixed bag of people, some who will be absolutely lovely and others who will not. The issue is that it’s your house and a long-term investment and so it’s a risk to buy and then be stuck with difficult neighbours. But then that will always be a risk even if privately. It’s a shame councils can’t felt the worst ones out and put them all together somewhere far away so that the nice ones get a decent chance and a decent reputation.

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No, absolute no. And don't buy a new build either, research this and the company that owns them.

my local council just bought a whole load of houses on a new estate and filled them with non-working illegal immigrants as a way of getting them out of hotels. It’s been a nightmare for owner residents. So it will be impossible for you to predict what it will be like.

I'd avoid new builds full stop if you can. Or if you must buy one then pay for a very thorough survey for snagging issues and make sure it's done by someone independent

You also need to check whether the roads and play areas are adopted. There's often years of haggling before they are adopted and the developer tends to lose interest in maintaining them once they have sold the houses.

Really?

If they are being housed, they are not illegal immigrants. They are not able to work because the law doesn't allow them to.

People complain when asylum seekers are housed in hotels. They complain when they are housed in HMOs. They complain when they are (allegedly) housed in shiny new builds.

Often because the developers offer big "incentives". But properties tend to depreciate after purchase - because they aren't "new" any more and because all the issues with the buildings /estate start coming to light

We have a new estate about 5 miles from us and it's clear from the Facebook pages that it's a nightmare to live on now, not least because the roads aren't adopted and so no one is dealing with the chaotic and often dangerous parking

Same happened in my local town. People were moved so flats could be demolished. The residents were promised they could move back when the new flats/houses were built. It didn't happen. All of the flats went to illegal immigrants, all single men. New flats very quickly became a ghetto. Windows smashed, doors kicked in and constant fights, all by the residents that moved in.The landscaping was ruined within weeks. All that money wasted.

I really do think it depends where the estate is (and what the layout of the whole estate is). I bought a new build and it backs onto just a handful of social houses. There are absolutely no problems. However, it is in a lovely town that has a generally low crime rate.

In fact, the ones that cause any grief are the spoilt younger owners whose parents gave them the deposit for the house… stupidly loud, expensive cars and a penchant for cocaine.