What is it reasonable to take when you move?

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Husband and I have a difference of opinion about what we can and can’t take when we sell our house. We have a really expensive electric/ gas range cooker, I think as long as we say we’re taking it when we fill out all the forms- that’s reasonable to take with us? He thinks we can’t. The washing machines and tumble driers I’m taking, and he thinks this is ok, I just don’t see why the range cooker is any different? But happy to concede I may be being unreasonable? What is the done thing with taking appliances etc?

Of course you can, you just put it in the fixtures and fittings form so the buyer is aware.

Our dishwasher is brand new, so even though it's integrated I've said we're taking it but will leave behind the panel so they can put a new one in the space.

In general if you turned the house upside down, whatever wouldn't fall out is left behind. So your freestanding range cooker would fall out!

You will need to replace it I think as considered a fixture. You can’t just leave them with nothing.

It depends whether it’s classed as part of the fixtures and fittings. Most ovens and hobs are fixtures, but if it’s not built in, it may be regarded as not fixed. You’d be leaving the buyer without a means of cooking I suppose. I think you need to ask the solicitor what the correct thing is.

Washing machines, tumble dryers etc aren’t fixed, they’re movable, so perfectly fine to take those.

We were planning on taking our range cooker with us - it's freestanding so perfectly acceptable to take, just make it clear on the fixtures and fittings form. As it happens, our buyers made an offer to buy it from us which we accepted... One less thing to move!

The basic rule is that if you could pick up the house, turn it upside down and shake it, then anything that falls out you can take and anything that doesn’t you need to leave.

Integrated appliances are usually left in place. Non integrated ones are normally taken. So by that logic I’d be taking the range cooker with me.

But it’s all up negotiation with the buyer. When you fill in the property information form you state what you are leaving FOC, and what you will leave if the buyer wants to pay extra for it.

But you could say that for any cooker. A range isn’t different,

As long as it's on the property information form that it is not included plus on the estate agent details it should not be mentioned (or you can explicitly say not included) or specifically photographed close up (can be in background)

If it’s a freestanding cooker then of course you can take it. You just indicate your plans on the relevant paperwork. Integrated appliances are another matter entirely - although I think most people wouldn’t be wanting to take these with them

I’m not saying it is different. It would normally be assumed that any free standing cooker would be taken, unless property information form states otherwise.

Nope - not the case
fixtures and fittings - you’ll get a form to fill in outlining what you’ll include in sale
this may curtains etc which are made to fit windows etc as well as appliances
just make sure it’s clear
alos think about what you’re moving on to. Is there an integrated cooker in the kitchen or not?

If it's built in / integrated into the worktop or cabinets, then it would usually stay. If it's freestanding, then your fine to take it

Is it somehow built in?

If so leave it, but if not take it.

I think you can take the cooker so long as you specify ALTHOUGH I'm a big believer in that things like this are what sold you the house in the first place.

For eg - if someone bought my house, they've liked the plantation shutters. I wouldn't dream of ripping them out and they cost me thousands!!!

I can't believe anyone would be so petty as to take an intergrated dishwasher ffs dont care how new it is, you sold your house kitchen as is! It's definitely not loose either.

Freestanding fridge and freestanding cooker to an extent yes you take but personally I wouldn't. Presume you've got a cooker in your new house!

Yes you can take it as long as you have put on the forms that it won't be left. The forms you fill in cover everything from curtain poles to light fittings. Just make sure you've put the cooker isn't staying and then all is fine.

Integrated appliances are left but non integrated ones can be taken. You could make them an offer to buy it from you. If you are taking it just be clear on the form there will be no cooker left.

Of course you can, I would fully expect to bring my own oven.

If its not fixed its not a fixture. A freestanding oven is no more 'fixed' than a washing machine, TV or microwave etc...

I’ve moved 6 times and always left the cooker behind and there’s always been one in the house we have moved into.

If you are thinking about taking your cooker I would inform the EA so they can tell your buyers. Your buyers could reasonably expect you to buy a new, cheaper cooker so there is one in place when they move in.

I think the problem with a range cooker is that it can be an attractive feature to a buyer. So while it's fine to take it (marking sure the buyers are aware), I think you should make it clear on the property details that it's not included.

Why would you presume the new house comes with a cooker?

Non of the houses I have ever lived in came with a cooker.

Are you talking about rentals?

It’s different with properties you are buying and you have implied before that you are a FTB.

I’ve always left the cooker just on the principle that I don’t want to be juggling gas safe engineers at the same time as removal people!

it’s chaotic enough moving, without having extra tradesmen under your feet.

i left a range style cooker at my last house, but there’s also one where I moved to, so all equals. I don’t think I’d have moved it if there hadn’t been one there in the new place though.

There's a fixtures and fittings form you fill out saying what you will leave or will take and then it's sent to your buyers to check over. It form part of the contract so if you say your taking it they can either accept or argue against it

You can definitely take it with you (as long as your house particulars don't say "recently refurbished shaker style kitchen with gas/electric range" as that implies it's part of the kitchen.

Just check that you're not going to end up spending more to put it in your new place - you'll have to pay to have it disconnected, removals may cost more, you may have to make amends to your new kitchen to fit it in, the cost to have it reinstalled. Depending on how many years old it is, it might not be worth it.

It's not different when you buy. The difference is between integrated or not.

Not integrated? I'd expect the seller to take. Integrated? I'd think it bloody weird to take!

It's nice if non-integrated is left (with agreement, if required), but it shouldn't be expected.

Seriously ... who would be happy moving into a new house to find it has no oven? At the very least the buyers need to be told what to expect and if I was buyer and the seller said there would be no oven I would be very annoyed as I feel most normal people would be.