What is it reasonable to take when you move?

[bluebellbow]

Husband and I have a difference of opinion about what we can and can’t take when we sell our house. We have a really expensive electric/ gas range cooker, I think as long as we say we’re taking it when we fill out all the forms- that’s reasonable to take with us? He thinks we can’t. The washing machines and tumble driers I’m taking, and he thinks this is ok, I just don’t see why the range cooker is any different? But happy to concede I may be being unreasonable? What is the done thing with taking appliances etc?

If it’s not built in you should be able to take it, tell the agent in advance then they can let prospective buyers know, we have a range cooker in our house but leaving it because realistically it won’t fit in any new kitchen

Just price the house to include the cooker and buy a new one. If its fancy its a great addition to the blurb and kitchen.

I can't believe how people can be so miserly , especially for kitchen equipment. If everyone could be a bit more open minded and generous surely this would make the buying/selling process more pleasant for all.

I always understood the rule to be, if you need a screwdriver or other tool to take the item, it's a fixture so it stays. Otherwise it's a fitting so you can take it.

Think lightbulb vs light switch.
Curtains vs curtain track or pole
Dishwasher is probably on a plug in a socket
Cooker is probably wired into a special socket.

Did the sales particulars say kitchen with range master oven? In which case it's included in the sale. I mean you could list that you're taking it but they may want a price reduction to cover having to replace it.

When I moved to my current house I knew they were taking the fridge, freezer, washing machine and dishwasher. I bought a fridge and freezer to bring with me and brought my own free standing washing machine and dishwasher.
I would not have been happy if they had wanted to take the range cooker. I would have had no means of cooking until able to get one delivered, I could not have bought one to bring with me as I did with the fridge, as they are too large. It is also a large extra expensive when moving.
Years ago people would take free standing cookers, as well as carpets etc. but these days it would be very odd.

But plenty of people do take cookers with them ! I find it bizarre that people think otherwise
You get a takeaway the first night having arranged to have the cooker fitted the next day.

You’d be amazed what people will take when it comes to the fixtures and fittings, you wouldn’t know until you get to the point where the list is completed. The house we bought they ripped all the carpet out - including off the stairs, who could possibly reuse stair carpet?! This was only a few years ago, not decades ago when that might have been more normal.

DD found out her seller had ripped out the Hive as she said she didn't want it. She therefore had no heating when she moved in. People are just gits.

Kitchen appliances can be worth many thousands of pounds. How come it's miserly for an owner to chose to keep their own items that they chose to meet their needs and preferences, and are worth thousands of pounds, but it's perfectly acceptable for buyers to hammer down the price from their original offer on the slightest pretext for things that were already accounted for in the original asking price?

You would have no means of storing frozen food either, it you hadn’t already been aware they were taking the freezer and ordered a new one.

Cooker is exactly the same. Is the F&F form said they were taking the cooker, then you would have known to order a new one in time for moving in.

Not odd at all. Perfectly normal for people to take cookers with them when they move, in exactly the same way as other appliances.

The range is normal to take tbh as long as it’s not an integrated one - I mean you could but it would be a bit bizarre.

When we purchased our current house back in 2018, the seller took the light fittings in the lounge and dining room. They were chandeliers (and we would have taken them down anyway) but they just left the bare wires!! It was December too so we literally had to put a lamp in there until we could get an electrician in to put a temp fitting up for us!!!

Yes it does depend on circumstances of course. If the buyers could be more reasonable then the sellers would be too. People should think more about what they expect to happen. They can't have it both ways.

Don't take the astro turf from the back garden. This is what happened to my friend when he bought his last home!

The house I live in was built for a large range and it was removed long before we moved in and we just have a standard 60cm freestanding cheap white goods oven... non of the stuff you said matters.

Yes we have a gap at one side but we use it for storage, its actually a handy space for a bin as there is no where else for one. Also the flooring goes UNDER an oven/range unless you had a cheap shoddy bodge job done so nothing needs doing to the floor.

It would be piss easy to find another range to fit the space, its not like they are all wildly different sizes. Its just we didn't have new range money or anyway to transport a cheaper 2nd hand one and it wasn't a priority for us.

I mean if I view a house and they have a wall mounted huge statement TV thats really expensive with all the bells and whistles do I get to keep that too?

I really like the look of that TV and want it and it was fitted to the wall at viewing so its included right?

It would be a hassle/expensive for me to buy a new one so it should just be left right?

If she takes it their will be a mount or hole on the wall without a TV so she should replace it with like for like if she takes it, right?

I mean the OP could always leave it because its secondhand and not worth the cost of a new one (and then spend that money again to buy herself a new one for the new house)... but then the new house might not even have a TV mount on the wall anyways or maybe the owner of the new house will have left their random old broken TV anyway.

That is literally how stupid these arguments are sounding.

You should have removed and stored those items before photographing and showing the house, if you were so desperate to have them. You can't use them to sell a kitchen and then rip them out. Just scummy.

Agree @snotathing

I have bookshelves screwed to the wall but I shall definitely be taking them with me. As long as it's clear in the F&F you should be fine. DH viewed a house where the seller was taking the fire surround and hearth.

As others say, a £1500 range cooker is not super expensive for a range cooker and is probably at least half way through its life expectancy. Getting it disconnected and reconnected will cost a few hundred pounds as well. I would simply find out what perspective buyers want and take it from there. I would certainly not risk a sale falling through for the sake of taking a cooker with me. For all you know the buyers may hate ramge cookers and want to replace the kitchen anyway. But certainly in the grand scheme of things you ae not likely to save a lot by taking it if it will probably need replaced in a few years anyway (with associated disconnection and connection costs).

I've always left the stove and the houses I've moved into had one. I would imagine it would cost a lot to get a sparky or gas fitter to disconnect it.

But if its listed that you are taking it in the form I assume it's ok. Your buyers might push back though. One of my sellers try to say he was taking the entire kitchen!

I've also left a washing machine and a wardrobe with the buyers agreement. I always leave light bulbs and replace light fittings after one winters night years ago I helped my friend move into her first home and all the lightbulbs were gone!

Wrong. FPNI.

If the buyers want it they can negotiate a price for it, but the OP is under no obligation to sell it to them.

Some people on this thread have either been taken for a ride or don't realise how straightforward it is to disconnect the electricity and/or gas from a range cooker when they talk about the cost of getting them disconnected!

If you remove a light fitting you need to replace it with a basic fitting so there is still a functioning light in the room. You read horror stories of people moving into places where the seller has taken all the lightbulbs, etc. It's not worth the cost and mental energy of suing.

We moved into a house where the sellers "helpfully" left a load of stuff we weren't expecting and it was a total pain. We'd already agreed they didn't need to clear the garage because there was something we wanted them to leave, but didn't want to pay for.

Not quite sure how this has run to 4 pages, largely full of nonsense.

However the definitive answer to the OPs question, is that it is entirely normal and reasonable to take the range cooker. So long as the buyers are made aware that is what is happening.