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Re-negotiate price?

128 replies

Itsanofrommehun · 10/04/2024 12:43

We are FTBs and had our offer (we are buying in cash due to inheritance) accepted on a house in November but it took the vendors ages to find somewhere. We are not getting to the final stages now but back in March when they found somewhere we did ask for a £15k discount due to the market changing and they agreed to meet us half way to keep the chain together.

we have just found out that the house in over two plots of land one the house and one the garden, and so our conveyancer wants us to pay £500 extra for the additional transfer. We think the sellers should pay this and we shouldn’t have to assume responsibility for it? AIBU?

OP posts:
reallytimetodeclutter · 16/04/2024 19:03

Itsanofrommehun · 13/04/2024 10:10

The sellers have said they might be willing to make a contribution but have said they feel they have already given us a discount and aren’t prepared to do anymore.

We have asked them to amalgamate the titles because we are worried about what this might mean for the future if we do get a mortgage or need to sell. They have said that they can’t do it as the Land Registry need a good reason (like an actual letter from the lender stating they won’t lend) and that they can’t lose anymore time as they would lose their onward purchase.

we are just not sure how to feel about it all.

Edited

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion.

Did your solicitor recommend you ask the seller to amalgamate the title? I'm no expert but it seems like a lunatic thing to do.

Maybe you'll beat the sellers into paying the few hundred quid, but I bet they hide kippers under the carpets.

schloss · 16/04/2024 19:06

The solicitor must be grinning like a Cheshire cat - their bill will just be getting higher and higher.

If the OP is still reading, just to repeat what others have been saying, buy the house then join the titles, if you wish or withdraw from the sale.

Itsanofrommehun · 18/04/2024 11:42

Hi just to update, I did pay the fee in the end myself but did make the sellers aware that if any costs did come from it, we would need them to cover it.

We have asked them to confirm the boundaries for us as we think the land registry ones are slightly out by about 30-50cms. Does anyone have experience of this? I appreciate everyone’s comments but we are first time buyers and we want to make sure we get everything right on this.

OP posts:
fromtheshires · 18/04/2024 11:55

Itsanofrommehun · 18/04/2024 11:42

Hi just to update, I did pay the fee in the end myself but did make the sellers aware that if any costs did come from it, we would need them to cover it.

We have asked them to confirm the boundaries for us as we think the land registry ones are slightly out by about 30-50cms. Does anyone have experience of this? I appreciate everyone’s comments but we are first time buyers and we want to make sure we get everything right on this.

😂😂😂😂😂

Im beginning to feel like this is a wind up post. How about you buy the house if you want it (it sure feels like you dont....) then sort the 30 to 50cm variance on the deeds after.

30- 50cm is nothing, especially as these are not technical drawings. As per the land registry blog I googled and it took me all of 30 seconds:

"I always start by explaining that we can’t tell you exactly where your legal boundary is, as our title planss show general boundariess. The information is based on large-scale Ordnance Surveyy_ mapping and is generalised to some degree."

Theres a difference between getting it right and being petty, you are the latter!

whowhatwerewhy · 18/04/2024 11:57

I wouldn't worry over 30 - 50 cm .

poetryandwine · 18/04/2024 12:07

I know the strong impulse to get it right, OP.

But a discrepancy of 50 cm is expectable. There is no perfect home . If this is the worst problem you face you will have been very lucky indeed

Geebray · 18/04/2024 13:17

Itsanofrommehun · 18/04/2024 11:42

Hi just to update, I did pay the fee in the end myself but did make the sellers aware that if any costs did come from it, we would need them to cover it.

We have asked them to confirm the boundaries for us as we think the land registry ones are slightly out by about 30-50cms. Does anyone have experience of this? I appreciate everyone’s comments but we are first time buyers and we want to make sure we get everything right on this.

Oh god your poor sellers must be tearing their hair out.

The thick red line on the land registry will cover more than 30cms on the land.

Mildura · 18/04/2024 13:18

As above, it really isn't possible to interpret a boundary location down to the last 30cm - 50cm from a Land Reg plan.

Outnumbered99 · 18/04/2024 13:33

Itsanofrommehun · 10/04/2024 16:31

Did you have problems getting a mortgage on it?

The thing is they need us to move, so why shouldn’t we adjust our offer to reflect market conditions?

also we did know from the start about the two plots but the conveyancer has only revealed the extra costs now. It really isn’t our fault so why should we assume the responsibility of those costs?

It really isn't the vendors fault either... did you choose your conveyancer? Just pay the money or have it out with them, its really not worth arguing over £250, is it?

Outnumbered99 · 18/04/2024 13:33

Sorry OP I missed your update apologies

sweetpickle2 · 18/04/2024 13:34

This has to be a wind up.

schloss · 18/04/2024 14:01

Having just read your update I can only think of the following:

@sweetpickle2 has already said this is a wind up.
If you are genuine, you have annoyed your solicitor so much they are not willing to deal any further with any of these queries.
You have tried to save money by paying an online conveyancer and they are not bothering to answering your queries, annoying ones or not.
You do not want to buy the house but for some reason are not prepared to pull out hoping the vendor will do it for you, maybe then you can play the victim.
You are the type of person, FTB or not, who will not listen to the helpful advice you have received on MN, and you are posting on here because you will not accept the advice from your solicitor.
Finally, you are someone who thinks they are right 100%.

If there is the slightest glimmer none of the above apply, for goodness sake, stop all this and exchange contracts. I would also apologis to the vendors for being a pain and also apologise to them for asking them to pay the £500, irrespective of you having paid it, and now insisting they pay for any associated cost with the 2 titles.

You can exchange on the 2 titles, then take as long as you want to bring them both under one title once you have completed.

If you are someone doing all this as a joke, I really hope you haven't purchased any property yet, or when you do buy and/or sell karma comes back to bite you.

WhereIsMyLight · 18/04/2024 14:10

I wonder how many bottles of wine the sellers have gone through dealing with this.

schloss · 18/04/2024 14:13

WhereIsMyLight · 18/04/2024 14:10

I wonder how many bottles of wine the sellers have gone through dealing with this.

Hopefully ones their prospective purchasers will give them as an apology for being so damned annoying.

fromtheshires · 18/04/2024 15:02

@schloss only if the seller gives them the money for it 🤣🤣

schloss · 18/04/2024 15:14

fromtheshires · 18/04/2024 15:02

@schloss only if the seller gives them the money for it 🤣🤣

Of course, how could I even think otherwise 😁

KievLoverTwo · 18/04/2024 15:24

I think it's clear that the overwhelming majority of posters here think you are behaving badly; then you did the opposite of what they advised.

Coming back to ask for further advice from them is entitlement of the highest order. I'm also a FTB and you're muddying our names, and I'm embarrassed by you.

I'd suggest you go and pay someone for legal advice. You've surpassed your 'free advice for a clueless FTB' quota on this thread.

MichaelFlatulence · 18/04/2024 16:12

The boundary is dictated pretty much by what’s on the ground.

MichaelFlatulence · 18/04/2024 16:18

Should also add that boundary confirmation is part of the documents they provide.

Bunnyasmyname · 18/04/2024 18:11

This cannot be real.
surely no one is that much of a twat?!!

fromtheshires · 18/04/2024 18:27

Bunnyasmyname · 18/04/2024 18:11

This cannot be real.
surely no one is that much of a twat?!!

You have read half the unhinged stuff people do on this forum, right 😂.

As much as I want it to be a wind up, I have dealt with the general public at large and people like this really do walk amongst us

OriginalFloorboards · 19/04/2024 08:12

@fromtheshires you took the words out of my mouth.

Unbelievable carry on.

The poor sellers having a buyer like this.

ApplesOnWards · 19/04/2024 22:31

Christ the poor vendors.

Bunnyasmyname · 21/04/2024 12:48

@fromtheshires on second thoughts, yes you are absolutely right!

I think I just hoping this isn’t real for the sake of the poor sellers!! I am thinking they must be in a bit of a pickle and need to move asap - anyone else would have told the OP to fuck off!

MusicMum80s · 21/04/2024 22:44

Itsanofrommehun · 10/04/2024 16:31

Did you have problems getting a mortgage on it?

The thing is they need us to move, so why shouldn’t we adjust our offer to reflect market conditions?

also we did know from the start about the two plots but the conveyancer has only revealed the extra costs now. It really isn’t our fault so why should we assume the responsibility of those costs?

You are being very unreasonable. If you knew you can't ask them to reduce the price. At best this is a miscommunication on billing with you and your consultants. There is no basis on which to ask the seller to cover the costs. Its also a very small amount of money in to context of buying a house.

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