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No viewings - please tell me what I need to change in house!

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Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 10:13

Desperately trying to sell a house that we've never lived in and is nowhere near where we're currently living. We move around with DH's job and have accommodation provided with that, so we bought the house 6 years ago to keep us on the ladder.

We've already dropped the price from £500k to £490k to now £475k, but there's just zero interest. It's definitely not looking its best having had (good) tenants in for the past few years - some dodgy curtains left up and some hanging off the track! So the pics definitely aren't selling it well.

We live about a 3 hour drive away but I have a week off soon. If I go through there to do some work - what would I be best to focus on? The showhome pics make it look so nice - I presume you can't add a link to these on the Rightmove ad? An empty house is just so unappealing...

I would really appreciate any advice...

House:
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/143709212#/?channel=RES_BUY

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JesusAndMaryPain · 30/01/2024 13:29

I'm guessing it must be price because it wouldn't last a day on the market round here, where the only houses for sale are empty as their owners have died!

L0bstersLass · 30/01/2024 13:29

Get the agent to label the pictures so people know which room they're looking at. Without furniture, it's difficult to tell what's what.
I had to guess which was the lounge by comparing the position of the door to the plan. It shouldn't be that difficult.

Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 13:32

sweetgingercat · 30/01/2024 13:21

Staging - you can hire a company to bring furniture in for the time it's on the market. Your estate agent should be able to point you in the right direction. It would make a big difference I think.

I'm not sure about the marks on the carpet. They might be cleaning marks or dirt. Maybe the pile has to be put down after a wet clean?

The pictures are not professional. They are not properly lit inside nor properly exposed so that both the inside and the outside are lit. The inside looks grey and underlit and a proper photographer knows how to do this. Are you paying for professional photography or have they got someone doing it on the cheap?

Here's an example of that inside/outside properly exposed look which you're aiming for. If you scroll through the pics you can see a lit kitchen with a clear garden through the window. This is good. It means that people can see the potential of a house in its setting on a clear day. Of course, skies are replaced frequently when it's overcast but buyers don't know that! https://search.savills.com/property-detail/gbsvrscli207811?_gl=1w6xj05_gaMTA4MDMzNjY0LjE3MDY2MTk5NDU._ga_DH58YLS8J6*MTcwNjYxOTk0NC4xLjEuMTcwNjYyMDExOC4wLjAuMA..

The pics were taken by the agent. They're awful, but the house is so bland inside, I'm not sure whether it would be worth paying for professional pics unless combining with staging.

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Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 13:34

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 30/01/2024 13:22

@Shortbreadfingerss makes a good point. We have bought two new builds and when we sold one of them, 3 years later, we only just got our money back. In our experience, our new homes felt a bit like new cars, they seem to depreciate once you've moved in, but then begin to hold their value once the estate becomes more established and the gardens and trees have matured etc.

I think the house is 8 years old. I've had it for nearly 6.

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Isitovernow123 · 30/01/2024 13:35

Op the house looks fine, the market is still very depressed. Yes you could spend some money but I wouldn’t, you’ll probably not get it back. Price looks okay for where you are. Leave it for a few more weeks then perhaps change EAs

Flatulence · 30/01/2024 13:38

I've bought and sold several houses over the years and generally speaking if people aren't even coming in the door then it's on for too much.
It could be the moat beautifully presented house ever, but if it's significantly overpriced no one is going to walk in the door let alone make an offer.
Whatever the agent says, you need to see how much comparable homes have sold for (not been listed for) over the past couple of years. That's not just property type/size but proximity to amenities (station, schools, shops etc.). Also expect to get less than you would have done 18 months ago, courtesy of the high interest rates and difficulty getting a mortgage. You need to choose between getting a quick sale at a lower price or having it sit on the market for months (even years) on end to get the price you want.
There's no point ploughing money into staging it or cleaning the carpets or getting new pics (all of which are perfectly good ideas) if it's not competitively priced.

Flickersy · 30/01/2024 13:40

I'm a bit surprised at some of these comments and wonder whether I'm somehow clicking through to the wrong property.

It's a fine house OP, nothing in the photographs that would put me off. It's obviously been used as a rental and needs a little TLC but that's not a big deal. The fact it's not in a chain is brilliant, the rooms seem nice and big, and generally everything seems in good nick.

The market is slow at the moment however, and I think you may be overpriced for a thee-bed property. You can always hold on for the market to recover, but if you want a quick sale then slash the price.

DrySherry · 30/01/2024 13:40

I don't see anything that would put me off other than the price. Its a nice home in good condition. But the price is a long way off. Number 19 which was a bigger 4 bed 2 bathroom only made 408k at the end of 2020. Prices in that area are falling now and have been for a while.
I think yours isn't worth much over 420k. How much did you buy it for ? My guess is 380k was about right in 2016/2017 ?

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MyselfYouselfMeYou · 30/01/2024 13:41

I think it looks absolutely fine. I'd be tempted to do nothing apart from, maybe, lowering the price a little. It looks much more spacious than any of the other houses linked to.

There is nothing 'wrong' with it.

Nothing wrong with taking more photos though and I'd take down the curtain.

It doesn't look like a do'er upper. It just needs decorating and a new bathroom in the future.

Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 13:42

Kdtym10 · 30/01/2024 13:24

It’s definitely the price - this is 4 beds, looks much more inviting and £50k less. You either need to keep renting or take a big hit on the price https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/142195514?utm_campaign=property-details&utm_content=buying&utm_medium=sharing&utm_source=copytoclipboard#/&channel=RES_BUY

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I do take your point, but the Redrow development has higher specs than those on that estate. There was a vast difference in prices when built.

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Fitbakesaremysaviour · 30/01/2024 13:43

I know this development and it is lovely.

However, there are so many new homes being built within a couple of miles right now - with all thd usual incentives and all brand new.

I would say yours is the nicest development in the area however so if you sort the house out, make it sparkle, review the price you might get somewhere.

I'd probably keep renting it for now if you can though and wait tor the market to pick up in the future. 2/3 years ago this house would have sold instantly.

shewasrooting · 30/01/2024 13:44

Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 10:39

Since Oct.

no interest whatsoever? zero? zilch?

alpaca44 · 30/01/2024 13:48

The front of house looks great.

But need much better photos of the inside and the garden. eg close up photo of kitchen

Measurements on floor plan - that’s always what I look at when deciding how big a house is.

I think it’s mainly an issue with the photos and you don’t need to make any drastic changes to the house.

Ideally start from scratch with better agent. Or get your agent to redo the photos.

Screamo · 30/01/2024 13:50

I live in Salisbury on a new build estate about a 5 min drive from here. There are 3 & 4 bed houses on sale for less, sometimes a lot less than you’re selling this for. Also detached. Wilton is a lovely area, I’ve lived there myself but people can buy a bigger house or house with more bedrooms just down the road for significantly less than what yours is on sale for.
You’ve had some great tips though from people so fingers crossed someone puts an offer in soon!

caz114 · 30/01/2024 13:55

As others have said the photos are dreadful. It looks at the moment, very grey with dirty carpets.
In the bathroom, for example- change to a colourful towel and matching bath mat and put a green plant on the window sill. An easy cheap fix that will lift the room no end. I would also change all the curtains to something more colourful to move away from the grey blah of the place. A charity shop is your friend here, where you can find something very cheap,
I would also retake the photos focussing on features in the room rather than the vast expense of dirty carpet, eg the kitchen.
The house from the outside looks great but the photos are a disaster.
Good luck

NotARealWookiie · 30/01/2024 13:57

That’s a great house with rubbish pictures! In my village (SE) it would be £750k in that state and be snapped up. Not very helpful I know.

I would say, don’t drop the price further. The increase in mortgage rates has slowed the market. If you start to consider a drop maybe try spending some money on new carpets and curtains to make some photos look better?

cocavino · 30/01/2024 13:57

Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 13:42

I do take your point, but the Redrow development has higher specs than those on that estate. There was a vast difference in prices when built.

With all due respect, the market has spoken. It does not matter what was higher spec when this was built. People don't care about this.

Talipesmum · 30/01/2024 14:01

Whywontitsell · 30/01/2024 13:42

I do take your point, but the Redrow development has higher specs than those on that estate. There was a vast difference in prices when built.

I’d think about what really sold it to you, and then think about if those key selling points are clear in your current listing.

You’ve mentioned:

More spacious than the average 3 bed - not clear as the room sizes aren’t on the plan, the whole house footage isn’t mentioned (specifying with and without garage) and there is no indication of how furniture will fit in the rooms (the old plan had beds/sofas on the floor plan)

Better build quality than other developments - you were comparing new builds, ish, and buyers now may be comparing existing houses. People may have absolutely no idea about relative estate build qualities. If this is key then make a big deal over it.

Sounds like this place felt like a “luxury option” to you. Larger rooms, great build quality etc. Buyers now see an older ex-new build, without the new shiny feel, and it’s looking v ex rental and unloved, even if it still looks nice. They’ll feel “unloved” rather than “high quality top choice”.

Think about what it’ll take to get buyers to see the place the way you did.

Fortheloveofgodwhy · 30/01/2024 14:03

Is this not the same estate?? bigger house same money? PLus there are at least 2 massive new developments round the corner which i know about. No idea what the prices of those will be but if people want a new house they will go for the brand new with NHBC not an 8 year old house for the same or more money

https://myddeltonmajor.co.uk/property/oakley-road-wilton-salisbury-2/?d_map=0

Oakley Road, Wilton, Salisbury - Myddelton & Major Estate Agents

An outstanding four bedroom detached family home, recently built by the highly regarded Redrow Homes, naturally light and presented exceptionally well, with impressive and perfectly proportioned living space amounting to 1,330 square feet, plus a garag...

https://myddeltonmajor.co.uk/property/oakley-road-wilton-salisbury-2?d_map=0

JaffaCake24 · 30/01/2024 14:04

For me it's the garden. It's so sad and barren.

The house I have imagination for - but why didn't you plant some trees and some screening to develop a more mature garden for when the time to sell came?

Hindsight is a great thing I suppose!

There's no feeling of love or character in the house or outside so it's just a box and a strip of green. Not sure how you change that.

I'd pop in some small trees around the back garden fence and make it feel more mature and more like a home. It needs softening in some way so people could imagine relaxing in the outside space.

BusyMummyWrites01 · 30/01/2024 14:07

So the decor is a bit neutral - so I’d say that it needs staging - the living/dining/kitchen area and one of the bedrooms. I am perplexed why potential buyers don’t seem able to look at a blank canvas and do this in their heads, but all the evidence (and those TV programmes!) seem to suggest that you need to sell them the concept of the house as a home.

Really, I am surprised your estate agent hasn’t advised you - I would almost consider consulting another agent as to their view and what they’d do to get feet through the door.

CasperGutman · 30/01/2024 14:08

Not read the whole thread. In terms of the house itself the decor is all a bit uninspiring and needs some new carpets, a lick of paint etc. but nothing disastrous.

The most off-putting thing in the photos for me is the efflorescence on the brickwork, especially at the back, which could possibly suggest a damp issue.

Other than that, the problems could be with the price or the location....

DrySherry · 30/01/2024 14:11

Fortheloveofgodwhy · 30/01/2024 14:03

Is this not the same estate?? bigger house same money? PLus there are at least 2 massive new developments round the corner which i know about. No idea what the prices of those will be but if people want a new house they will go for the brand new with NHBC not an 8 year old house for the same or more money

https://myddeltonmajor.co.uk/property/oakley-road-wilton-salisbury-2/?d_map=0

Yes it's the same street with an extra bathroom and an extra bedroom. It is marked as sold - but as yet its not clear how much of a reduction they took. The op is kite flying with thier price imo. That's the only reason there isn't any interest. Its a nice home but not going to make that kind of money I'm afraid.

WimbyAce · 30/01/2024 14:15

I know the area and personally I would say price. It's a nice house but I think you went too high for a 3 bed. I also know the agent and I don't think they are the best tbh.

rainingsnoring · 30/01/2024 14:18

Fortheloveofgodwhy · 30/01/2024 14:03

Is this not the same estate?? bigger house same money? PLus there are at least 2 massive new developments round the corner which i know about. No idea what the prices of those will be but if people want a new house they will go for the brand new with NHBC not an 8 year old house for the same or more money

https://myddeltonmajor.co.uk/property/oakley-road-wilton-salisbury-2/?d_map=0

I'm sorry OP but I agree with others that it is the price.
Is people can buy a brand new, 4 bedroom house for the some money, plus several other cheaper options, why would they be interested in a rather tired looking 3 bedroom at the same price?
A 5% reduction in price is insignificant. Generally, a house doesn't sell because it is over priced (barring glaring problems). If it has no viewings at all, it is likely to be very over priced. Most people are happy to do a bit of tic themselves if the price and other things are right.