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Neighbour denying responsibility for his visitors trespassing

75 replies

Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 17:28

Hi

My first post here. After some advice on what to do with our nuisance neighbour.

His visitors are parking on our property. He initially claimed that its his right as he has right of way. After clarifying this with the builder that no parking is allowed with that, he changed his stance to "I can't tell my visitors what to do". I bought the house with a private front so we don't have to deal with public parking in front of the house. Unfortunately, thats exactly what's happening on a very regular basis.

I want to do something so the neighbour stops these games. I do not want to go after his 20 visitors individually. I spoke to some of them and they were even worse. Claiming that is not even my property. Is he not really responsible for his visitors' trespassing?

To be clear, the front is very spacious and the visitor's cars don't block the driveway. It's the plain rudeness and blatant claims that its not my property making me to not let this go. On top of that with 2 additional cars parked there regularly making it look like a parking space for public.

OP posts:
Dacadactyl · 23/12/2023 18:34

Maybe park there yourself and not on your drive.

Bookworm1111 · 23/12/2023 18:35

Penguin bollards and a sign saying this area is private property and parking is not permitted.

PamelaParis · 23/12/2023 18:38

Assuming this is only happening occasionally, let them park there and stop being so uptight.

Gazelda · 23/12/2023 18:41

Is this a new build? Can you ask the builders to put up a 'private property. STRICTLY no parking. Turning zone only' sign?

Noshowlomo · 23/12/2023 18:43

As @Gazelda said

rwalker · 23/12/2023 18:46

Tbf I’d park there as well looks like a parking space on the other side of the rd I wouldn’t presume it was yours

post and chain should do it

Original poster
Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:46

You got a free room in your house that I can send some homeless people to?

I don't get why people just become asses about this. He doesn't have enough parking spaces or doesn't want to ask his 5 cars to park 20 ft away. But I need to accommodate this idiot and his visitors on my property? Especially when they were so rude about it all? Duck politeness. I don't want them on my property. End of discussion.

If you got too much politeness oozing out of you, you know where to put it up.

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SeaToSki · 23/12/2023 18:47

Put big barrel plant pots on either side of the light blue area with big sticks in them and a sign on each stick saying NO parking, property of X house. Or something similar.

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Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:48

Initial misunderstanding, fine. I told them. Showed them the deeds. Got the builder to write to them. I'd have allowed it any point if there was a sliver of politeness in their dialogue. There was never a " can we park here?".

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Saschka · 23/12/2023 18:49

I’m not sure OP can block it - my interpretation is that the visitors are parking on a turning circle on the shared drive. So technically her property, but looks like roadway (which I’d presumably why people think they can park there).

OP, I can’t actually see how you can practically stop him, aside from parking there yourself. I’d work on being less annoyed by it - not because it isn’t annoying, but because it is better for your own stress levels.

Mumtime2 · 23/12/2023 18:49

Paint Private on the area

Rocksonabeach · 23/12/2023 18:51

Put a sign up - private parking for number … only. Any cars parked may be blocked in or legal action / clamping, cctv recording 24/7. Number …. Is aware so stop being so rude this is private property. Merry Christmas - have some consideration. Put a cctv camera over it

Rocksonabeach · 23/12/2023 18:52

Fence what you can for yourself and big pots and rocks for the no parking bits.

PurBal · 23/12/2023 18:52

I have a very similar set up. Neighbours on 1 side have ROW. But neighbours on other side constantly having visitors and parking in front of my house. They could park in front of the house they’re visiting. And they’d block me in either way but the difference is I wouldn’t have to see them. The ROW is between my house and our garden so it means I worry about DC playing out. The neighbours who have ROW are cautious and know we have small children. Neighbours and delivery drivers (who shouldn’t be driving up here anyway as private property not maintained by the council) bomb up like they stole it.

Would double yellows work?

Beckafett · 23/12/2023 18:53

Put a sign up, put a note on the cars and see what happens.

irisgg7 · 23/12/2023 18:54

I have a similar situation. go out and tell them not to park.

alliterative, start to damage their cars (I dream about doing this) it's infuriating to have to accommodate such piss taking.

personally I go out every time, had some interesting conversations!! They do move though.

if I could drop a load of stone to prevent it...I would!

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Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:59

Tried that. But lack of action has only made them more aggressive. Now they damage the grassed areas (communal) by parking recklessly. Always parking facing our windows, initially that wasn't the case. They just keep the headlights on or just stand and talk for a while. Just things to annoy us further. Was hoping a legal action or at least a start of it, would bring them to their senses. But don't want to go chase 20 different people if the neighbour can be responsible. Deeds say he cannt allow the space to be blocked.

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puddypud · 23/12/2023 19:01

Not sure what else you can do to be honest. But I would record every interaction and every time they park there with their headlights on. And then take it to the police. They're clearly doing it to harass and intimidate you.

sunglassesonthetable · 23/12/2023 19:09

Honestly OP I feel for you.

It's YOUR land , part of what you PAID for , you have the actual deeds and all these posters saying a version of oh just chill out.

The actual fek next door taking the piss 100%. We all KNOW that.
There's other spaces nearby.

It all sounds very intimidating tbh.

sunglassesonthetable · 23/12/2023 19:10

Next door sounds a rude chancer. Amazed all these other posters are fine with it.

It isn't about him completely disregarding you and not about you sharing OP.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 23/12/2023 19:15

So are you allowed to park there? Or is no one allowed to park there? If it’s the former, then just park there, or block it off., if it’s the latter then I’m not really sure what you’ve paid for? A piece of road you can’t use?
If it’s part of the road, then I could see why they think it’s ok to park there.

Marblessolveeverything · 23/12/2023 19:18

You have very limited recourse in this situation. Trespass is civil law and another adult can not be taken to court for the actions of others - it's common sense really. They have not committed the offence themselves hence you would have to take individual cases. Honestly, I don't think it would be worth it.

Making it inaccessible will be a challenge with an existing right of way, personally I find them a nightmare! Clean clear ownership is the only way to avoid the inevitable.

On a practical note you could park in the spaces? Those saying people are fine with it, I am not but there is limits to what can be achieved, and life is short.

Nightowl1234 · 23/12/2023 19:26

I’ve seen people put up two posts on either side of the space with a long metal chain between the two, padlocked to one side, so they can unlock it when they want to park their own car. Other option is to pay for a private enforcement company to clamp any unauthorised cars.

ClematisBlue49 · 23/12/2023 19:26

Assuming it isn't meant to be used for turning, could you rent out the two spaces so that they are always occupied by others? Or plant a tree?

SirChenjins · 23/12/2023 19:33

I think the only way to get it through his thick skull and the equally thick skulls of his visitors is to block it with planters or something similar. Really annoying for you, you have my sympathy. I often wonder about people like that - who moves into a small street and thinks ‘I’m going to wind up the neighbours I have to live beside for years to come’?