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Neighbour denying responsibility for his visitors trespassing

75 replies

Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 17:28

Hi

My first post here. After some advice on what to do with our nuisance neighbour.

His visitors are parking on our property. He initially claimed that its his right as he has right of way. After clarifying this with the builder that no parking is allowed with that, he changed his stance to "I can't tell my visitors what to do". I bought the house with a private front so we don't have to deal with public parking in front of the house. Unfortunately, thats exactly what's happening on a very regular basis.

I want to do something so the neighbour stops these games. I do not want to go after his 20 visitors individually. I spoke to some of them and they were even worse. Claiming that is not even my property. Is he not really responsible for his visitors' trespassing?

To be clear, the front is very spacious and the visitor's cars don't block the driveway. It's the plain rudeness and blatant claims that its not my property making me to not let this go. On top of that with 2 additional cars parked there regularly making it look like a parking space for public.

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Santaiswashinghissleigh · 23/12/2023 17:31

Cement some ornaments in the space..

Marblessolveeverything · 23/12/2023 17:31

He is not legally responsible for other individuals. There is no legal redress you can take other than individually.

TwentyThreeFifteen · 23/12/2023 17:33

When you say private front and they aren’t blocking the drive, do you mean they are on the road?
Is it your private bit of road or a general road past your house?
Are you at the end of a cul de sac?

ANightmareBeforeChristmas · 23/12/2023 17:34

Penguin bollards!

Fairydustandsparklylights · 23/12/2023 17:36

Diagram please. I don’t understand what you mean by a private front that’s not blocking your driveway.

MintJulia · 23/12/2023 17:39

@ANightmareBeforeChristmas seems to have the best suggestion. Use lockable bollards for all areas apart from shared access.

LolaSmiles · 23/12/2023 17:40

Fence around your fron yard/land so it's clear that it's not public might be an option.

clarrylove · 23/12/2023 17:44

Add a sign to say 'Private property. Charge of £100 a day will be levied for unauthorised vehicles'.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 23/12/2023 17:44

So fence it off? Or it's a shared turning space they are parking in?

Champagnebar · 23/12/2023 17:48

Fill the space with heavy planters or ornaments

gocompare · 23/12/2023 17:54

Can we have a diagram please. It's the rules Grin

SecretSantaHelp · 23/12/2023 17:57

gocompare · 23/12/2023 17:54

Can we have a diagram please. It's the rules Grin

This!

itsgettingweird · 23/12/2023 18:01

gocompare · 23/12/2023 17:54

Can we have a diagram please. It's the rules Grin

He need a diagram to understand what you mean about front.

Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:02

Spot on. I "own" it. But don't want to block it myself if can be handled better.

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Dacadactyl · 23/12/2023 18:03

I don't quite get what you mean.

If they weren't blocking my driveway I wouldn't be saying anything, I don't see what harm they're causing tbh.

Twistyripple · 23/12/2023 18:05

That's so bloody annoying for you. I'd go out each and every single time and say something. If it's yours, it's yours!!

housethatbuiltme · 23/12/2023 18:10

I'm assuming OP means something like a house we looked at a while back.

It was a three house terrace, the house we looked at was the far terrace (furthest from road) but the only one with a garage so a private drive cut across the middle of other two gardens into the garage.

I assume this was just legally agreed with all the owners some time historically. I think maybe the house had 3 long gardens and the previous owners gave their garden up for this arrangement with a driveway.

The drive was only just 1 car width so no space for parking for the other 2 houses (but theres a car park right over the other side of the road like 2 seconds away anyway).

I'll try to add a photo.

Neighbour denying responsibility for his visitors trespassing
mumda · 23/12/2023 18:14

Marblessolveeverything · 23/12/2023 17:31

He is not legally responsible for other individuals. There is no legal redress you can take other than individually.

Private tenants are responsible for their visitors. If you own why should you not apply the same rules of politeness?

MissBuffyAnneSummers · 23/12/2023 18:18

Fairydustandsparklylights · 23/12/2023 17:36

Diagram please. I don’t understand what you mean by a private front that’s not blocking your driveway.

Seconding this.

Diagram and explain what a 'private front' is

tescocreditcard · 23/12/2023 18:20

He's not responsible for the behaviour of other adults.

Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:22

Did my best. Green is me. Navy is neighbour. Red line is my property boundary. Both have our private spaces to park cars in front. Brown shading is private driveway with shared access - part of which I own and neighbour only has right of way. Sky-blue circle is the spot his visitors park. Looks small here but it's big enough to park 2 cars comfortably without blocking the driving part. It's like a turning point for large or emergency vehicles. Clear in the deeds that none of the brown part can be or allowed to be obstructed. Surely he's allowing his visitors to park there after I directly informed him that is happening and he denied responsibility. He's never asked me permission to use my proprty. After politely informing him not to do that and use allocated visitor spaces in the estate, he claimed various things including denying that's my property. Finally ended up on "technically, its not me so I don't care"

Neighbour denying responsibility for his visitors trespassing
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Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:24

How legal is that and can I actually make them pay somehow?

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NewYearNewYu · 23/12/2023 18:27

I would block it with plant pots or similar to make the point. Then in time you could try removing them once habits have changed.

Duckdbours · 23/12/2023 18:29

Not sure if that's sarcasm. I'm sure you'd understand if you had paid a premium for a private driveway to avoid random people parking in front of your house and your neighbour makes it a public parking space by inviting 5 cars at a time every couple of weeks. When there's allocated spaces within the estate and a free public road 20 foot away.

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MissBuffyAnneSummers · 23/12/2023 18:31

If it's your property then block the CF parked cars in with your own.

Make it as inconvenient as possible.