Bathroom - partially covering a window void for a shower - pictures?

[Chasingsquirrels]

Main bathroom refit.
Currently bath, basin & WC.
Want to include a shower.
Entrance is a door then corridor.

Options to follow...

What about replacing the door with one that has two obscured glass panels in it? Then light would still come into landing.

Bath under window etc.

I don't think it's big enough for this.
Even with a 700 bath & 700 shower I'm only leaving a 350 gap to that space in the corner - which is then wasted.
And much the same on the other side.

Or did you mean bath under the window but up against the corner wall.
In which case more overall room so could go wider, but aren't the bath & shower too close?

I'm going to cut out bath, shower, WC & basin shapes so I can just put them on instead of keeping drawing it.
Like bloody playschool!

Loving the drawings! I think both of those are better than anything else you've got.

On the second one - yes, I meant bath in the corner (would be a bit random in the middle) - then you've got space for storage/nice towel rail or something at the end.
You could have the shower opening on the side facing into the room (not the side facing the bath) - plenty of space for getting in and out etc. The only thing that you'd want to check is that you can clean the bit of floor between bath and shower. I don't think it matters that they're close. In fact, you could do that thing that someone suggested and put a half-wall at the side of the shower, which has the bath the other side. Then you could have a nice little shelf/alcove on the bath side of it to put your cuppa/wine glass (or radio, or bubble bath, or anything). Make a feature of it... But even if you didn't do that, I can't see an issue with the bath/shower being near each other.

Oh so many options 🤣.

I really didn't think the reversal would work, but on paper it does.

Bath in the corner next to the shower works.
I like the sound of the wall / half wall option.

So, a 700/760 x 1000 shower - reasonable or not?
Or push that wall out a tiny bit more to fit a 800 x 1000.

(Teens are actually a nearly 21yo M, who probably won't come home to live after uni, and a 17yo M who may or may not go to uni.
Plus me, I will really only use the room for baths, although if the toilet isn't under the bloody window I'd be happier using it - I feel SO exposed sitting there, big window behind me and 4m+ to the bathroom door in front of me.
And a visiting DP, who has no say in the matter.
And occasional guests.)

Bath under window just works doesn't it.

I'd say bath under the window is best (but that all your new plans are better than any of your original ones!)

I'd go for sink as the first thing you get to as you come into the room (for better flow - sometimes you'll just want to go in there to wash hands/clean teeth, so the sink has more traffic) and the sink/loo on the same wall rather than at 90 degrees to each other.

Where did your original plans come from? (the ones in your first posts) - can you get them to mock a couple of options up so you can see them more in 3D?

But I'd say there's light at the end of the tunnel!

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I don't think there is space at the end of the bath to have the basin & WC on the same wall, but the basin first as you enter the room - there would only be a 940 gap from the end of the bath to the walll and the toilet would be around 700 then you need to space to approach, sit, stand in front for men.

The "nicely done" plans are Huws Gray (was Ridgeons) and I can ask them to do another.

I'm also talking to a local bathroom supplier and he's having a look at my original plans and getting a plumber/fitter out to do a mini-survey next week. So will see what they come up with.

I'm feeling much more positive that I'll find something which works now.

Thanks everyone for posting, and particularly ReviewingTheSituation. It's really helpful to get other ideas and perspectives.

Ah yes - good point about the space in front of the loo!

Thanks for letting us have a good old critical review of your plans. I hope you end up with something you're happy with (without the loo on view).

I'd still look at a lightpipe for your landing too though - they're game changing (and v cost effective - no structural work like a skylight).

Bath under window rendered.
Some one pointed out it would be a pain bathing small children, which I don't have. But I do bath the dog!
Think I have discounted this.

Bath left & shower added opposite with WC next & basin under window.

Or a third option, which is one of the originals and doesn't suit my moving the loo requirement. But I do think is a good use of the space.

Quadrant (not keen - but I think most appropriate in this space) or rectangular shower.

What about the middle picture (todays), make the shower a quadrant (more aesthetically pleasing) and have a corner toilet.

Oooh - you're right. Seeing that bath-under-window option in 3D, it doesn't work at all!

The middle of today's options looks good though. And solves your 'loo on view' issue.

Have those latest nicely done plans taken into account the boxing for the soil stack?

Have you considered changing the way the door is hung? Would having the hinge on the other side help with hiding the loo in any of the layouts you've rejected so far?

Yes, I couldn't get the soil stack column into the plan, but have taken it into account in the various measurements. It might need to be cut into, but that was always going to he the case and isn't an issue.

I don't think the door hanging side makes a difference, unless in use it is always fully open against the wall.

I think I'd be happy with either 2 or 3 of those I've done this afternoon.
With 3 even though the loo is still there it is tempered by being offset and also having the basin on view.

I'm also going to look into frosted glass in the bathroom door, and a light pipe as I think both would improve the ambient light on the landing.

Look up bath inside shower on google. There are some great designs. You could glass wall straight across the room from side to side to make a giant shower cubicle. Add the shower head coming out of the wall and put a free standing bath tub inside the cubicle. Then toilet on right or left of door and sink on the other side.

@Chasingsquirrels

No I didn't mean 2 🤦🏻‍♀️. Phone screen too small, memory too foggy.

Do not put the toilet where you can see it from the hallway; you'll hate yourself!! It doesn't matter if it's a better use if the space, it's just NO NO NO.

I'd go with option 1. My gap between the wall & bath is 900mm. I'm a chunky monkey & I like my space (plus as we know, if someone needs help, that's the absolute minimum space you need). I would go with the half wall, using it as the bottom half of the shower (not having the shower glass next to it) so no gaps to gather dust etc. it's also something stable should anyone need to get some support. Hope that makes sense.

swapping bath & shower doesn't seem necessary and makes the shower smaller. I can't see the advantage?!?!

to me it's not the right shape bathroom to have the bath under the window.

id just have the 1000cm shower tray as long as you can to a half wall next to the toilet and if it was me I'd get a small step built on the shower side of the wall too, mainly because I can't shower without one now (but never a bad thing to have for leg shaving etc)

Maybe this?

I'm getting confused now, too many options!
So you mean this one, shower 1000 x as wide as it will go. Built in "step/seat" in shower.

The issue with this is the toilet waste to the opposite wall, which is why I tried swapping it. Plumbers haven't said no, but have sucked their teeth a lot and suggested other options 🤣

I would be tempted to go for something like this with the shower on the wall to the right of the window. Obviously the software is not optimising the design but you can see the idea

@Chasingsquirrels yeah pretty much that! In that design. What's the mm
hap between the shower & the wall where the toilet would go?

id take it to around 900. Build a half wall as the end of the shower. How long a shower base would that be?

@Englishrosegarden

i can see what you're saying, but that would drive me demented, water everywhere all the time plus I don't think the toilet could go there because of the soul stack location. Lots of pipes through the glass too.

I'd have slimline cabinetry along the window wall and carrying on round the corner to to WC unit (which would then hid the waste pipe running round to the soil stack in the opposite corner.

Width would be approx 800-900, with 200 of that taken up by the window wall cabinets.

Wall is 1750, so options would be:
Shower / WC
1000x800 / 950
1000x900 / 850

@Chasingsquirrels

oh ok, that's not what I'd do, I'd measure 900 from the window wall (for toilet gap) & then put the half wall, see if that gives you a long enough shower base, build the inside step and then a shower tray.

I'd just go with a base unit for the sink, with a cut out for the boxing in of the pipe work.

i think cabinets all around will reduce your toilet space or shower space too much.

but that's only my opinion!

if you go with the half wall then you'd need to allow for the brick width. ( I know you're not stupid, but if you're anything like me, your brain is SO full
of it all it's easy to forget about little things like that).

i guess it all hinges on the meeting next week. My bathroom fitter was clear on what plumbing could & couldn't be done.

i wasn't always thrilled with his decisions but at least I knew where I stood.

I capped my soil stack and it's hidden behind the wall my shower is mounted on, which also gave me the void to recess a 'box' with a shelf in it for shampoo etc.