How much did you spend on renovations?

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I know there so many variables but I’m just after an idea of what you spent if you recently renovated a property.
For context - this is a 6 bedroom, 2 bathroom house. 3 reception rooms, large hallway and landings, big kitchen and utility. It needs new flooring and decoration throughout, new bathrooms and fitting, same with kitchen and utility. New boiler, new radiators, then a lot of smaller things like new internal doors (15 of them), new front door, staircase needs redoing (maybe replacing completely), new fence/gate.
Wiring seems to be ok. But I have no idea of the condition of the walls underneath the thick old paper, so there might be a huge chunk of plastering needed too.
Just trying to figure out roughly how much I might need and if it’s even affordable.

My DH is an architect, we are in a constant cycle of doing up our beautiful 6 bed Victorian Villa. You need to budget £100k and be prepared to go over budget.

Thank you. I was thinking around £100k, and that was if we did a fair chunk ourselves but it’s so hard to know how much all those hundreds of little jobs add up to. My husband was thinking you could do it for a lot lot less and I think he’s having a laugh!
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s priced anywhere low enough to allow that sort of spending on it

No I would say much more than that. How old is the house? Our plumbing and new boiler and new pipes and new bathroom cost about a third of that budget alone. The rest costs huge amounts so we’ve started doing it ourselves instead of getting others to do it… such a lot depends on the house

It's not just the labour - you'll find that the cost of materials has soared. I know that's not news but it really adds up!

Where are you? SE/London I would say easily 100 K (and that’s if you do a lot of work yourself and you are choosing mid range specification).

I work in property, if you can fully refurbish a 6 bed house for 100k then send me your builders details please 😂 Depends on fittings, as in is it a 500 pound bathroom from B and Q or a designer one from C P Hart for 7k, do any walls need to be moved?

It’s 1960s, so I do imagine thanks to that it’s cheaper to do-up than a lovely Victorian property.
No walls or anything structural needs moving at all - the rooms are perfectly sized and laid out for us luckily which is part of the appeal.
It wouldn’t be a cheap £500 bathroom, but not a £7k one either. Mid range options generally.
It’s in Wales.
All the plumbing/pipe work looks fine - it’s just the boiler and radiators that are dated. It’s probably more of a major refurbishment than a renovation thinking about it .
Thanks for all you input so far. It’s really helpful

I’m doing a 5 bed 4 reception house at the moment . New boiler in new location was 10k. Got off lightly with electrics so far and think they will come in about 3k including car charger, resorting kitchen (bill to date is £565 for chasing in 13 light sockets, putting in fair amount of wiring for kitchen and testing all circuits). Most windows ok but bill for 2 new doors, converting a bay to a triple glazed door and one triple glazed window will be 7.8k. Woodburner 3k.

Will be using second hand kitchens and second hand Aga Masterchef (3k total for both). We’ve been lucky with plastering and most stayed intact otherwise that would have added loads, was textured wallpaper throughout. Will need one load bearing wall removing, a new shower room going in , refurbishment of en-suite and a make good go at the bathroom until have more time further down the line. Drain work has been £1200. We look on target to come in around 60k mark.

@Volterra that doesn’t sound too bad - there’s quite a few things on your list that we wouldn’t need. Though you’ve reminded me I’d not included installing a car charger or the woodburner.
I imagine removing a load bearing wall is quite a cost, and we would just need a new boiler in exactly the same place which helps.
The problem is the unknown - especially with the plastering. All walls (apart from the bathrooms where’d we’d be removing tiles and guaranteed to need full plastering after) might be fine. But if the entire house needed plastering it would be a small fortune!

I think if you are looking to do mid range, have 100k and aren’t in a huge hurry then go for it. I have 3 people who work for me who are brilliant which has been a case of right time right place getting them all together. I’m project managing and we are all really enjoying it - so much that we are hoping to find more work as a team after my house is finished.

I think 100k is massively optimistic unless you're doing a lot yourself. How many sq/m we talking?

I'd be budgeting closer to 200k..

However, I'm sure it'll be livable for 100k

It is worth going in low if you offer as people are quite wary about taking on projects currently and houses needing work can stick a bit. We paid 405k earlier this year on house advertised at 450k. A comparable around the corner went under offer fairly recently with an asking price of 580k but fell through and back on at 570k.

We did a six bed about ten years ago and did all the decorating work and a lot of the DIY ourselves and we spent about £100,000 and we are in the north. I think now you will be looking at more like £150-200,000.

New internal doors are £130-£200 each so you are looking at £2-3000 for the doors and that is without fitting. A new front door will easily be £1000. Fancy radiators can be £500+£1000 each depending on what you want so that could be £10,000. Having a largish room skimmed is £800 nowdays... It all adds up.

It’s roughly 200m2.
We do have 100k but if we spent more than that, we’d be losing money if we sold the house because in perfect condition the house would only be worth ~100k more.
I think I’ll just keep an eye on it and like you say it might not shift, then we could offer lower. It’s new to market, and on as offers over, so at this stage they wouldn’t accept the sort of amount that would allow us to comfortably do everything needed.

Exactly! We priced the internal doors we like to roughly 2.5k. Luckily we are fairly handy so could hang doors ourselves. But the we don’t have time to do absolutely everything so even some easier jobs will have to be outsourced and budgeted for.
I don’t think we’d be spending that much on radiators and would have no choice but to scale back a bit on things like that. But labour you just can’t choose the cheaper option. Because there isn’t one (or if there is it will cost you more in the end, or look crap!)

Is it in a state where you could do the jobs over time if it is your forever home? If you are planning a refurb and resale it doesn’t sound like the margins are big enough to make it profitable but if you are planning on staying for a number of years and can take your time on the jobs then it will probably rise in value anyway.

We could absolutely live in it and do bits as we go along.
We don’t want to do it up to sell - it’s literally my dream house (or it could be). But there are uncertainties with my DHs job that mean we may well have to relocate again in a few years. We may not, but we need to consider the possibility to make sure we don’t lose money on the property because properties are much higher were we’d likely be moving to and losing money on this would mean not being able to afford anything decent if we moved.

I wouldn’t do it in those circumstances . As I said we have been extremely lucky and could have been looking at a much larger spend. I would have been ok with that as we aren’t looking to move and if we had run out of money then we would just leave bits unfinished. Different if you have a potential move hanging over your head.

I think that’s the sensible thing to do… but the threat of a potential move will never really go away (unless/until we actually move) so I also don’t want to pass up opportunities that might work out well based just on the fact that we might move at some point in the future.
I do think that anywhere we bought would have to be priced to allow all the work though, without us having to do too much so we could get it done quickly.

We spent about £200k on ours but that included a big extension which meant loads of garden reinstatement too.

Excluding the extension it was stairs, new flooring, 2 new bathrooms, new kitchen, new woodburner with flue lining - yes I think you could possibly do for £100k....

We did a similar size house last year - same number of rooms, smaller square metreage, did a bit more than you as we moved a couple of walls and some plumbing rather than use existing bathrooms. No work to garden done.

Ours came in at £180k. That includes a replacement staircase, some work to make chimney safe, replacement uPVC windows, all new internal doors, skirting boards, plastering, decorating etc. We replaced boiler with an ASHP and took out all radiators, replacing with UFH but that was only a bit more expensive than new boiler and radiators. We went for mid-range kitchen from Howdens and already had our own appliances.

TBH if you're keeping the rooms where they are, you could do the really messy stuff first (like rewiring and plastering), do anything roof or security related, do one bathroom and the kitchen, then work on the rest later.

We bought our 300sqm 1970s house from the guy who built it, 25 years ago. In 1997 as we moved in, we installed central heating system (£8k) and had to replace a leaking fibreglass flat roof (£2k). PILs helped a bit then. Since then we have replaced three bathrooms, reglazed all the (big) windows, rendered over the spardash, lined the chimney properly and had a new kitchen. Two internal walls have been altered to improved the flow, but not moved. We had to do projects as and when we could afford them, but my rough tally says we've averaged £10-15k per year. No decorative work included here. We have built up a roster of trusted trades but still, people die and retire. We would like to refurbish all our outdoor paved areas, but the quotes are north of £20k.

However, we have kept the place up to date, so although it's not of great architectural merit, it strikes most people as more contemporary than it is, which has always been the objective. And it helps no end that mid-20th century is more sought-after now than it was in the 1990s.

Does anyone have more of a breakdown to help?
My initial thoughts were roughly along the following:
Kitchen and utility refit - 20k
Flooring - 15k
Bathrooms (1 is actually a small shower room) - 20k
Plastering bathrooms and living room - 2.5k
Boiler- 3.5k
Internal doors - 2.5k
New staircase and balustrade - 4k
New front door - 2k
Chasing out trunking/sockets etc - 2.5k
New radiators - 3k
Woodburner - 3k

I've not including plastering throughout as I'm not sure it would be needed or not.
That comes to ~80. So getting close to the 100 already.
But what in the list am I really underestimating?