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Help with floorplan please

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 13:53

What can we do with this floorplan please?
Upstairs is fine, downstairs needs improvement.
There is planning for a new entrance hall already in place, so could build that.
Utility is new so don't want to move it. Office/playroom we would prefer not to touch/keep separate.

Do I move kitchen at the back and fit in dining table? Or keep kitchen at front and either move dining table to living room with good amount of units or less units but with round table?
Happy with knocking down walls/extension but ideally without.

Thanks

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pinkgrapefruitjuicepie · 08/08/2023 13:58

is the study your playroom?

pinkgrapefruitjuicepie · 08/08/2023 13:59

I would prefer it how it is with the kitchen at the front and the dining room/ living room at the back overlooking the garden

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/08/2023 14:00

That’s a very small ‘garage’

Ahnobother · 08/08/2023 14:06

What size of porch do you have planning for?
You could turn the garage in to the study if you have enough room to put a door in to it from the new hall.
But you'd lose the garage.
Who lives in the house OP? What's your goal in making changes?

Ahnobother · 08/08/2023 14:07

Also do you have side access?

citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 14:10

It's playroom/study. Got desk, slightly older kids so small amount of toys in the cupboard.

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 14:11

Ahnobother · 08/08/2023 14:07

Also do you have side access?

This was for pinkgrapefruitjuicepie

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 14:13

Ahnobother · 08/08/2023 14:06

What size of porch do you have planning for?
You could turn the garage in to the study if you have enough room to put a door in to it from the new hall.
But you'd lose the garage.
Who lives in the house OP? What's your goal in making changes?

It's about 2x2m, but we can't enter from the side of garage because there is a gas meter in a way. We would like to keep garage as it is.
We would like to separate kitchen/living room as currently living room is a bit awkward shape without wall in between kitchen/diner.

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 14:18

Ahnobother · 08/08/2023 14:07

Also do you have side access?

Yes we do.

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Crochetablanket · 08/08/2023 14:26

This is my suggestion - remove walls at kitchen and lounge - blue squiggle.
You can then create a new wall for a hallway adding onto your new porch/hall area. Remove what seems to be small cupboard in the study.
Doing this will incorporate stairs into the room but that’s not unusual .

if it were me I’d also open up into the study and make the garage space the study.

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TheHomeEdit · 08/08/2023 14:27

You have put so many restrictions on what you don’t want to alter I think the only thing you can do is move kitchen to back and have kitchen / diner in that part and then living room where the kitchen is.

More radical - build porch as new entrance hall.
Incorporate study into large kitchen / diner / living area across the whole back with kitchen where study is (so handy for utility room)
Wall off current kitchen area (or use large sliding doors) and take down wall between this space and current hallway. That room becomes large study / playroom / living room.

MikeRafone · 08/08/2023 14:35

im not surprised your lounge is difficult as you have so many doors into it and as you say a missing wall to make up for all the other walls that you can't use due to doors. Along with a cupboard into the lounge area.

I would build a wall across form the kitchen to behind the cupboard for the lounge and then use the cupboard to. open up and access the study for the kitchen area.

I would take out the walls for the hall and incorporate that space with the kitchen as its a lot of wasted space

then build on a porch with cloakroom area for coasts at the front

MikeRafone · 08/08/2023 14:47

Blue is sliding doors and green is walls put into place

one sliding door in porch to hold coats and shoes
one sliding door inbetween lounge and kitchen to have a big open space or shut off completely

access study from kitchen

put in dinning table in what was hall area

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 14:59

Crochetablanket · 08/08/2023 14:26

This is my suggestion - remove walls at kitchen and lounge - blue squiggle.
You can then create a new wall for a hallway adding onto your new porch/hall area. Remove what seems to be small cupboard in the study.
Doing this will incorporate stairs into the room but that’s not unusual .

if it were me I’d also open up into the study and make the garage space the study.

Thank you. I thought of that too but can't get rid of the cupboard or that awkward corner as it is stairs supporting wall.

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 15:03

MikeRafone · 08/08/2023 14:47

Blue is sliding doors and green is walls put into place

one sliding door in porch to hold coats and shoes
one sliding door inbetween lounge and kitchen to have a big open space or shut off completely

access study from kitchen

put in dinning table in what was hall area

I like your idea but I can't put the door into playroom where the cupboard is. It's very structural and holding stairs. The layout is driving me crazy mostly because of that corner.

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justanothercat · 08/08/2023 15:37

Wall across where kitchen was to make formal sitting room
Remove wall of study, move kitchen into this area with seating a dining area

Help with floorplan please
justanothercat · 08/08/2023 15:49

This might be better

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citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 15:58

justanothercat · 08/08/2023 15:49

This might be better

I had thought of living room at the front as it perfectly fits my sofa and media unit. Sofa under window and unit at the opposite site. But then it might be 'too small'?
I can't remove wall to the new family room - we just put it back up as there was a big pillar that had to stay which was very awkward looking. Could I just keep it as is and put L shape sofa there?
Thanks

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justanothercat · 08/08/2023 16:06

Depends on how your family use the house. I moved my kitchen which was a the front and turned it into a smaller sitting room.
It worked for us as the children were young and we basically lived in the kitchen, big table in the middle and sofas in the family room area.
We used sometimes retreat to the sitting room after they were in bed.
Now one is at uni and the other has left home so Dh and I tend to use the sitting room or if sports on he'll sit in the family room when I complain about it!
What doesn't work for you at the moment?

citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 16:33

justanothercat · 08/08/2023 16:06

Depends on how your family use the house. I moved my kitchen which was a the front and turned it into a smaller sitting room.
It worked for us as the children were young and we basically lived in the kitchen, big table in the middle and sofas in the family room area.
We used sometimes retreat to the sitting room after they were in bed.
Now one is at uni and the other has left home so Dh and I tend to use the sitting room or if sports on he'll sit in the family room when I complain about it!
What doesn't work for you at the moment?

I'm the only one cooking (twice a day) and we have at least one ASD child (possibly three), so meals are not a family affair (they eat only their set foods etc). We have round table in the kitchen which sits five and are happy with that.
If we closed the living room/kitchen wth a wall, one cupboard of space (top and bottom would have to go but I would still have enough of storage space for us. We don't have much extra things thought (like coffee maker/ instant cooker, etc, so no bulky items).
We mostly hang out in the living room reading books or watching tv and are out a lot. Kids quite like to be upstairs in their separate bedrooms (5,7,9 yo). We don't entertain often, only have kids birthday parties and MIL comes here for Christmas lunch.
We home ed so no homework on kitchen island 😃.

We have put house on the market and the feedback is 'it's missing second living room' and downstairs is 'too small'. It's not any smaller than houses that recently sold but the other two had separate lounge, rather than open plan.
My husband is retiring in 2 years so if we don't sell we will spend 2 years here and then try to sell again.

We had employed an architect who wasn't great with suggestions.

So, in short we would like to separate the kitchen from living room but want to make it so it's not 'weird' layout and basically something that most family houses have/want.
I'm aware it's a small house but it's a standard 4 bed house in Surrey, unless you are paying 1mil plus.
Thanks

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justanothercat · 08/08/2023 16:39

Okay, if I was selling I would not be having any work done as you won't make any money back.
I would suggest you have the estate agent reword the details so it reads - kitchen, dining and family room. Stage the study and call it a snug.

citygirl1234567 · 08/08/2023 16:44

justanothercat · 08/08/2023 16:39

Okay, if I was selling I would not be having any work done as you won't make any money back.
I would suggest you have the estate agent reword the details so it reads - kitchen, dining and family room. Stage the study and call it a snug.

I normally wouldn't but not much is selling at the moment and I don't want to live with current layout for another 2 years.
I can make changes for 2k and I think it will be money well spent (if I keep kitchen where it is).

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mosiacmaker · 08/08/2023 16:51

I would add a porch, have the entry door to the side and a nice window facing to the street to let light in and make it feel spacious.

Then you free up the whole layout and can remove the big central entrance hall. Take out those walls and put kitchen bench along wall in front of stairs, put nice island in (orange).

then you have space for a dining table in windows to the street.

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justanothercat · 08/08/2023 17:08

Am I correct in thinking you want a separately living room basically?
How is your furniture laid out at present?
The market has dropped, how long has the property been on the market dvd how are other houses selling nearby?

ThereIsOnlyOne · 08/08/2023 17:19

Just be very aware of not having your stairs in the kitchen if you can avoid it. No way to stop smells going upstairs.