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Buying - Waiting (anyone want to wait with me)?

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NewAnon · 27/06/2023 11:15

Hi there,

We're first time buyers, trapped in London rents well into our 40's.

We found a house, we made an offer, it was accepted. Our mortgage was granted. We appointed a solicitor. The property was valued. They surveyors went in on Friday last week. We expect the surveyor's report this week.

And now we wait...

We (obviously) have no chain, and the seller has no chain - I know the wheels are in motion, but this state of semi-anxious waiting is getting increasingly stressful.

I don't expect the survey to throw-out anything terminal, though I know it'll be written in such a way as it all sounds terrible (to, rightly, mitigate risk to the surveyor).

My main worry is that the buyer will pull out (or worse, die), or I'll suddenly and randomly lose my job (no reason to think I will)... it's just the waiting.

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Nortam · 14/07/2023 19:16

Thank you for the warning that is terrifying! Lucky you were both on the ball.

NewAnon · 14/07/2023 19:18

Flubadubba · 14/07/2023 18:59

@NewAnon we had similar last week. Except it was
normal: at companyname.com
Sent from: at companynameS.com

We werem't ready to exchange, nd it was asking us for a 10% deposit (we are in a chain, so our buyer's one would be passed upwards).

We told the agents right away (they originally dimissed it until husband got involved and listed his credentials, which are highly relevant). Shitstorm ensued, including apologies from the managing partner.

Make sure you chnage yoyr password, turn on 2FA and delete the incorrect email from your cache just in case..

I did exactly that (re: 2FA, in fact, 3FA! and password, I didn't delete it from my cache, good call!).

Sorry you had a near-miss too!

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Flubadubba · 15/07/2023 10:47

@NewAnon Hopefully your solicitors realised how seriious it was!

Sparklynewname · 20/07/2023 11:37

Had an email from the solicitors yesterday and local authority searches are back. No questions arising from them so just waiting for the responses to the other questions she had asked and then she will prepare contracts.
She is away next week so hopefully she can get the contracts prepared as soon as she gets back.
Anyone know how we will be able to go about signing contracts when we are the other side of the country? Do we have to attend their office or can we get them witnessed by an IFA like we did with our deeds?

NewAnon · 01/08/2023 10:17

Update...

We exchanged on Friday last week.
And are aiming to complete this Thursday - we just transferred the final/remaining funds over to the solicitor.

The wait may nearly be over for us! We should be able to hang out in 'the new house' this weekend, we're planning to take down a bunch of cleaning equipment (even if it's clean, which it may or may not be, it's not really clean until you've cleaned it yourself).

We'll also take down non-valuable items we won't need between now and move day (hopefully 12th August). Like bags of winter clothes, etc. just to make the move easier.

As soon as we've completed we need to do a royal mail redirect, and cancel our current utilities (DH has been organizing the new utilities in the background).

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Sparklynewname · 02/08/2023 20:21

Congratulations!
We haven’t heard anything for a little while now. The conveyancer was on holiday last week so we were hoping to hear something by yesterday. No news so I have dropped her an email today to ask for an update.

NewAnon · 04/08/2023 09:12

WE HAVE COMPLETED - we are home owners!

If anyone looks back at this thread, as a first time buyer, here's a rough timeline and what we experienced - I know it's long, but I believe that I'd have benefitted from a list like this before I started.

Before kick off - found a school we wanted DD to go to, this narrowed down the search area. Because it's a private school, we didn't have to worry about 'getting in' as long as she was a good match for the school.

We found a Mortgage Broker to work with - based on recommendation.

We found a solicitor to work with - based on recommendation (had sold the last two of my mum's houses).

3 May - Engaged with Mortgage Broker - we used a recommendation (a specific person from a national firm that my friend had used more than once). This is absolutely recommended, without the broker we would not have got the mortgage we did (~4.6% interest) - and instead would have had to settle for a much higher rate. All we paid him was £400 (he gets the rest of his fee from the mortgage provider) - and it was worth more than £400 PER MONTH for 5 years!!

Mortgage broker advised how much we could borrow and went away and found the best rate mortgage for our needs.

Our total mortgage budget was @ £900K - but a mortgage of that value would mean our monthly payments were 80% higher than our London rent, so DH and I decided to go under.

26 May - Made an offer on a house - we had seen around 20 houses at this point, there were two in the final runnings. The first of the two was BEAUTIFUL, but was a probate sale and probate hadn't been granted yet, we knew this could cause a long delay, so we went for the second, we chose it because:

Good ground space - twice the size of our London flat.
Decent garden - not huge, but a nice, established, garden.
Under 5 mins walk to the school - we realised we'd be grateful for this every day.
Good condition - some cosmetic changes will come, but the house is easily 'moveinable' without any work.

House listed at: £785,000
Offer accepted at: £775,000

We justified the offer by looking at similar houses, in the area, and they were approx. 775K.

At this point the Mortgage Broker completed the mortgage application, and we engaged the solicitor, the solicitor has a flat fee of £1,600.

We introduced the solicitor to the estate agent to start the process.

The first thing the solicitor does is organize the 'searches'. This takes a few weeks for the various land registries to get back to her.

20 June - survey - we opted for a buildings survey (RICS 3) - because the house was built in the 1970s, and has been significantly extended in the 1990s and 2000s. The survey process took about a week from booking to getting the report. The price for the survey is based on the price of the house, ours was £640

We chose the surveyors based on reviews, and membership to RICS ('Chartered surveyor' rather than 'Associate surveyor') - and to be honest I chose the one who I liked the best when we chatted on the phone.

The report was largely very positive, the only watchout was potential asbestos in the ceiling in two bathrooms.

29 June - asbestos survey - we had an asbestos surveyor (found on CheckaTrade) take samples from the bathroom ceilings to confirm asbestos. This process took about a week and cost £225 + VAT.

They found some asbestos but it was low risk (the least dangerous type, and in good condition) their advice was to scrim it in, rather than remove, so we'll do that.

Then all sorts of machinations in the backend between the solicitors happened. No idea what, but it all seemed to go smoothly.

Then we all went on holiday and slowed the process down (us and the seller).

28 July - exchanged contracts - for this we had to transfer 77,500 to the solicitor, this would be our fine if we ducked out of the agreement post exchange. This was really reassuring to us, because we knew that even if the seller changed their mind, we'd get some ££.

3 August - completed - to do this we had to transfer the rest of the deposit amount + solicitor fee + stamp duty to the solicitor, they had the get the cash from the mortgage provider (obv the seller had to do the same for their new house, at the same time).

And here we are today - we have the keys (there are SO MANY KEYS). We have visited the house (you can tell they really took pride in their home, so although it wasn't professionally cleaned, it was clean, tidy, and cared for).

On Friday this week we have packers coming to pack the property, and on Saturday we move. The total fee for this is around £2,300. This is really nerve wracking because we're going from online reviews only, so we thought about this really hard - I'm still quite nervous the actual move could go wrong.

Before we started this process, friends said it'd take months and months - and I couldn't see how it would, but it kinda did, despite the fact we have no chain, and the sellers were buying a new build so neither did they. And despite the fact that our solicitor, the estate agent, and our surveyors were all very prompt and professional.

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bjkmummy · 04/08/2023 10:58

Congratulations! We made an offer on 2nd may and not even exchanged yet as we are in a chain of 3 which probably has slowed things down. Talk if completion next Thurs but given noone really seems committed to exchanging I can't see it happening so sat here in limbo hoping for some form of update.... Don't even have removals booked so kinda hoping it's not next week as feels very short notice to sort everything out

Sparklynewname · 09/08/2023 20:11

We have a contract to sign and a limited title transfer form.
Still no probate so can’t exchange or complete.
We go away next Wednesday so will pay a 10% deposit and email our solicitor permission to exchange while we are away in case they get probate in that time.
Sick of waiting now and I know it hasn’t even been that long but we have so much work to do to get it liveable for DD and her bf.

Wednesdayonline · 10/08/2023 08:09

@Sparklynewname we're also waiting for probate, it's a long wait! Annoying not having any idea when it will come in.

Sparklynewname · 02/09/2023 13:54

We’re still here. Still waiting. 11 weeks yesterday offer was accepted. Everything is done except probate. As soon as it arrives, we can exchange and complete.
Waiting on conveyancer chasing them again and just letting me know the exact figures for completion so I can ensure that I have it all transferred out ready to send across.

Pjmasksonrepeat · 03/09/2023 18:31

Thanks for the update @NewAnon really useful to have a timetable like that.

tigerbear · 03/09/2023 22:47

@Sparklynewname and @Wednesdayonline same here, waiting for probate to be granted. 😱
I sold and completed on my old house 2 weeks ago (didn’t want to lose my buyer as he offered before the market went downhill), but now we’re stuck staying with in-laws until we can exchange and complete.

We threatened to pull out if probate not granted by a certain date, and the estate agent has suggested exchange before probate has been granted, and the vendor has said we can move in after exchange but before completion.

Not sure of the legalities of that, and my solicitor is being rubbish and hasn’t answered the email I sent a week ago!

Sparklynewname · 04/09/2023 19:06

Neither solicitor will allow exchange before probate has been granted because until it’s granted the executor of the will doesn’t have permission to sell the property.
Moving in after exchange and before completion could actually extend the delay as a rental agreement would have to be sorted first.
Very vague but will come up with a quick Google.
Let’s all hope that the probate office sorts out soon. I have colleagues who have just had probate back in 9 weeks.

Would anyone else not have offered if they had know probate would take so long?

Wednesdayonline · 04/09/2023 22:56

The probate came in at just under 12 weeks for us. That's sort of what I was expecting and I was hoping it wouldn't be longer than that. Helpful that they applied for it a month before the house went on the market.
Technically they can sell without the grant, but solicitors won't allow it because someone else could come along later with another copy of a will they claim to be the real one with different info in it and then everyone would be in trouble.

tigerbear · 05/09/2023 10:04

@Sparklynewname and @Wednesdayonline yes, that’s what I though too, that it’s not possible to exchange before probate granted.
the estate agent assured me it was possible, but then he would say that!! 😬
@Wednesdayonline have you now completed?

I don’t think I’d have offered if I’d known that with probate it could be such a long process. We’ve been trying to buy and sell since February, and have had offers accepted on about 6 houses so far, with all falling through for various reasons.
when we offered on the probate one, we were lured by the fact that it’s obv chain free, and that the agent told us probate was imminent.

Wednesdayonline · 05/09/2023 13:08

@tigerbear we are (hopefully) completing on Monday... we'll see!
Estate agents definitely bend the truth about how far through the probate process is when you're viewing.

tigerbear · 06/09/2023 07:42

@Wednesdayonline fingers crossed all goes well for you 🙏

lionsleepstonight · 06/09/2023 07:53

It took 22 weeks for our probate to come though (March 23). Lucikly we hadn't had any offers until April. We're still waiting, not exchanged as our Buyers buyer dropped out. They did get another in 3 weeks (miracle) so now just waiting.....

tigerbear · 06/09/2023 17:40

@lionsleepstonight I’m hoping it won’t be 22 weeks or longer for the house we’re buying, as that would take us up to November 😱

lionsleepstonight · 06/09/2023 17:47

@tigerbear fingers crossed it comes through much quicker for you.

lionsleepstonight · 10/09/2023 18:30

We agreed a completion date! Exchange still to happen but feel like we're that bit closer. 😀

tigerbear · 10/09/2023 20:06

@lionsleepstonight how exiting! Good luck! What’s your completion date?

Our agent received a message from the vendor to say that the probate office have received all the documents they need, so hopefully it should be imminent for grant of probate 🙏
The survey has also been done, and although a few small issues, nothing too major.

lionsleepstonight · 11/09/2023 07:52

@tigerbear end of the month. Fingers crossed!

Sparklynewname · 12/09/2023 20:43

Spoke to solicitor. Sellers have chased probate but still nothing. And so we wait.
She did say herself “so frustrating, we’re all ready, just need the word!”
Gah!

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