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Are we being unreasonable?

33 replies

Fallulah · 20/05/2023 11:30

Sold out house to first time buyers quickly, all good. I had a post on here asking how long was reasonable for us to find somewhere and consensus was a few weeks/a month.

After two weeks we found a house to offer on - it’s not perfect and there are compromises but it’s in a great area which is important to us. The vendors are relocating and have an offer in on a property but nothing could proceed until they’d sold theirs. They accepted a low offer and we feel happy we got a good deal for the area. Again, all good - our buyers happy the chain is made and we thought things could move forward.

Except, my agent contacts the vendors’ agent to get things moving and he finds out that our vendors don’t actually have an offer in on anywhere and are considering some other properties. So actually nothing can proceed because they’ve lied. This remains the current position.

A property we would be interested in has come on the market - again lovely area and different compromises but bigger overall and may suit us better. However, the agents of this property are doing that annoying thing where they have one day of viewings so that viewers feel like loads of people are interested and think there is demand for the property. We can’t view until later next week.

Are we being unreasonable to keep the offer in on the first property, go and view the second property but not tell anyone (except our mortgage advisor so that he doesn’t progress too quickly on the first one)? Are we actually as bad as our vendors for doing this? I feel no loyalty to them because of their lies but I don’t want to mess our buyers around as they haven’t done anything wrong. Either way nothing is progressing yet because original vendors still don’t have a house. No money has been spent by me or my buyers.

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Fallulah · 20/05/2023 11:31

our* house not out house - it’s a whole house! (Need an edit button!)

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bilbodog · 20/05/2023 11:40

Go and look at the second house. You are spending a huge amount of money so make the right decision for you.

Fallulah · 20/05/2023 11:40

Also, another reason I am unsure about our vendors - our offer was accepted on Wednesday and as part of our written offer we asked that it was taken off the market and no more viewings to take place. It’s still live on Rightmove, I noticed last night.

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Winter2020 · 20/05/2023 11:43

If Rightmove says SSTC then that is the usual way.

Fallulah · 20/05/2023 11:44

Winter2020 · 20/05/2023 11:43

If Rightmove says SSTC then that is the usual way.

It doesn’t. It’s still just for sale.

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PragmaticWench · 20/05/2023 12:14

Go for it, view the second house and make an offer if you like it. This is a huge purchase so it needs to be right. Plus, you're not wasting your buyer's money, nothing is being done yet.

Unicorn2022 · 20/05/2023 13:02

Your vendors have kept their property on the market as they are hoping to get better than your low offer. They may be keeping you hanging by pretending they haven't found somewhere yet.

Definitely do look at the other property, there's no issue with that at all.

KievLoverTwo · 20/05/2023 13:14

Nope. Get yourself a backup house.

InTheCludgie · 21/05/2023 07:34

Agree with other posters that you should still look at other houses. It's not a great sign that they've lied is it? It would make me wary of doing business with them

BlueMongoose · 21/05/2023 10:58

If they lied to you, and it wasn't the HA that got it wrong or lied, that absolves you in terms of looking at other properties. Liars can't be trusted, so even if you do decide to proceed with those vendors, be very careful.

Fallulah · 21/05/2023 11:21

InTheCludgie · 21/05/2023 07:34

Agree with other posters that you should still look at other houses. It's not a great sign that they've lied is it? It would make me wary of doing business with them

This is how I feel - I’m struggling to get past the fact they lied! It’s hard to view this as purely a business transaction and not attach human emotions to it!

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Fallulah · 27/05/2023 14:16

So, update… after stalling the agent for the first house all week, we’ve had the viewing and we LOVE the second house! This is the feeling we should have had about the first one!

There are six viewings on it today and we were first. The agent says they will contact everyone on Tuesday (after bank hol) and ask them for offers. He says they do it in two stages - everyone makes an offer and then everyone makes their best and final ‘to avoid a bidding war’. I’ve never known it done like this…? We would quite happily pay asking price and we’re in a strong position. Full asking is the very top of our mortgage offer though, so we can’t go higher. Would you make the full asking as your first offer or hedge your bets and make a lower offer, making the full asking offer as your best offer?

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Povertytrapped · 27/05/2023 14:20

I’d go full asking and say that’s all you’ve got - the vendor may just accept the offer on that basis.

TheSnowyOwl · 27/05/2023 14:21

Your vendors haven’t kept their word and that would be enough to put me off the property anyway. Go and view the other place.

Twiglets1 · 27/05/2023 20:00

I would offer the full asking price in this situation.

Fallulah · 30/05/2023 10:05

We’ve offered full asking for house 2. Our agent has had a chat with their agent and there are three offers made, including ours, but he has emphasised our good position. He feels it will go for above asking price, which would mean us putting in some money from savings if we really want it as asking price is the top of our mortgage offer. It’s a case of trying to remain rational and not let hearts rule heads!

I hate this process!

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InTheCludgie · 30/05/2023 13:26

Good luck OP hope you get the house, will keep my fingers crossed for you

KievLoverTwo · 30/05/2023 14:29

Fallulah · 30/05/2023 10:05

We’ve offered full asking for house 2. Our agent has had a chat with their agent and there are three offers made, including ours, but he has emphasised our good position. He feels it will go for above asking price, which would mean us putting in some money from savings if we really want it as asking price is the top of our mortgage offer. It’s a case of trying to remain rational and not let hearts rule heads!

I hate this process!

Fingers crossed for you.

It is a loathesome process, indeed.

Twiglets1 · 30/05/2023 15:54

Fallulah · 30/05/2023 10:05

We’ve offered full asking for house 2. Our agent has had a chat with their agent and there are three offers made, including ours, but he has emphasised our good position. He feels it will go for above asking price, which would mean us putting in some money from savings if we really want it as asking price is the top of our mortgage offer. It’s a case of trying to remain rational and not let hearts rule heads!

I hate this process!

🤞
Good Luck!

Fallulah · 30/05/2023 16:19

We didn’t get it. The agent himself said the other bidder has paid well over the odds for it because they missed out on similar nearby recently and didn’t want the same thing to happen again.

This has cemented that we don’t want house one though, so we’ve withdrawn from that.

So we’re back to square one! Our buyers are ok to wait for now, thank goodness!

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Twiglets1 · 30/05/2023 16:23

Aw, bad luck.
At least it has shown you that you definitely don’t want house 1 though.

Hope something else that’s right for you comes up soon.

Fallulah · 17/06/2023 21:07

So the estate agent phoned me today… the house sale fell through and he wanted to know if we were still interested. I said yes but we could still only afford our offer and not the huge amount that we were beaten by. I told him, by all means put our offer back to the vendor but they’ll turn it down. He said he’d already spoken to them and they wanted us to have the house for the amount we offered! So we have the house!!!!!!

I may not believe it until we actually have the keys!! 😁Absolutely nothing else has come up that we liked since we lost this one… and now it is ours!

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Yikesno · 17/06/2023 21:11

That's lovely - and so nice to read some good news on here. Congratulations!

Twiglets1 · 17/06/2023 21:23

Wow! That’s a great update.

InTheCludgie · 17/06/2023 21:31

Congrats, that's wonderful news!

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