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Revenge ideas?

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frustrateddad1985 · 30/06/2022 19:12

So long story…wife and I sold our house last May (2021) and moved to Yorkshire to a rented house whilst we found somewhere to buy. We found a nice place and put in a generous offer on it (which was accepted) in October 2021. We asked at the time “as a condition of accepting the offer, cannot be taken off the market, with no more viewings?” The vendors said they wanted to be fair to everyone, so let the viewings that had already been arranged take place, but no more. Flashforward to February 2022, and absolutely no movement at all. The vendors haven’t found anywhere to live, and we’re getting increasingly frustrated as our mortgage is going to expire. We called the estate agent in our February holidays (we’re both teachers), and we’re told that the vendors, who we’ve been nagging on and off for the last 4 months, have gone away skiing for two weeks. We had enough, so we pulled out. Ok and behold, three days later the house is back on the market for £45,000 more than our offer. Absolutely raging, not least because by this point we’ve spent over £1,000 on solicitors fees, time, searches, surveys, etc, when they clearly had absolutely no intention of selling to us and we’re just stringing us along.

In late February, being more desperate, we made an offer on a different house - not what we wanted, smaller, but then again mortgage prices had gone up by then, so we had to compromise. Flash forward to now (June 2022), and we’re not a step closer to completing. Know why? Some grown up kids are selling it on behalf of their parents, who are both in homes with dementia. The kids don’t have power of attorney, nobody knows where the deeds are, the owners solicitors went out of business in 1997, so they can’t be traced for a copy…all the while the estate agents are stringing along (“of they’re ob it, don’t worry!”, “we understand your frustration…!”) and we’re still without a home, and a extra £1,600 in solicitors fees AGAIN down the pan (approaching £3,000, all told). Add to this that we’ve lost a year of our life. Also, the first mortgage we got on the first property was £930 pcm, on a £385,000 house. The second mortgage was up to £1,100pcm on a £375,000 house (!), and now, having just made ANOTHER offer on a different house, it’s up to £1,270 on a £345,000 house. So these two *ts have literally cost us months of our lives, and tens of thousands of pounds.

Is there ANYTHING we can do to recoup our money, or even just make ourselves feel better? It’s seriously depressed both of us, to the point where we just don’t want to take any positive steps because we feel that it’ll all just crash down around us. Help!

OP posts:
Daisydoesnt · 01/07/2022 08:26

Consider this - you’ve put your house on the market. It’s October. You get a generous offer, and you’re free to go house shopping. You don’t make a move at all on any of the houses you see between October and February. Admittedly there Christmas and Nee Year in there, but that still leaves 14-15 weeks to have a good look round

Well yes, there's having a good look round the market, but you do realise that they might not have liked anything that was available? Or there might not have been anything to view that might their criteria? Do you think they should have "made a move" on something just because it suited you? We've been looking for a house for very nearly two years: there's just sod all on the market!

It's completely illogical to say they had no intention of selling to you - why would you say that? What benefit would it have been to them to accept your offer but with no intention of selling? That is ludicrous.

Some advice to make your life easier:

-don't consider properties that are probate sales
-don't consider properties where the vendors are getting divorced

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 08:26

@PlntLady our chain free sale took 7 months but on other threads people have said it's ridiculous to take longer than 4 months. I saw one about some buyers waiting for a mortgage & posters were telling the OP she was lucky the sellers hadn't dropped them. Our mortgage on house we are buying took 4 weeks despite being completely straightforward

TheTeenageYears · 01/07/2022 08:34

Unfortunately it's a chicken and egg situation for anyone with a house to sell. Agents won't consider an offer unless you are under offer and if you find a buyer and need to find a property that could very well take months. The only option as someone who has opted to break the chain is to put a limit on how long you are willing to wait. We only ever do fixed price conveyancing and for our last 3 purchases we have bought some sort of insurance policy from the solicitors to cover an abortive purchase. It was about £40 but means there's no risk of large solicitors bills if the process collapses. I thought this was fairly normal but having read about people's solicitors bills when purchases/sales fall through maybe it isn't.

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 08:45

Maybe I should look into the insurance.

I just want a straightforward easy process but there's so much dishonesty. My friend has just found out 7 months into her sale that the probate hasn't been granted (told it was). A few yrs ago we pulled out of a "chain free" sale because the sellers had planned to find something but then didn't! Trying to buy this year & we lost out to a cash buyer who then transpired was not actually a cash buyer. And we've been offered other houses we were originally outbid on as the valuations are under & buyers can't get the mortgages.

I do not want to lose my mortgage offer as rates are much higher now.

Lifeisforlovingandliving · 01/07/2022 08:52

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Wow, all because people don’t agree with you. Good look with finding a suitable revenge, hope you manage to get some suggestions elsewhere and maybe sort your attitude out at the same time!

Icansleep · 01/07/2022 08:53

frustrateddad1985 · 01/07/2022 06:57

But if you read the original post, they hadn’t even started looking?? Also, delisting the house three days later for £45,000 more is a bit of a obvious sign they just wanted more money and we’re waiting for us to drop out.

They were also going to put it up for more because house prices have increased

YOU pulled out, they didn't pull out and then put the price up

Houses are really hard to find atm so they were probably waiting for the right house instead of rushing into buying anything they could find

Icansleep · 01/07/2022 08:53

frustrateddad1985 · 01/07/2022 06:57

But if you read the original post, they hadn’t even started looking?? Also, delisting the house three days later for £45,000 more is a bit of a obvious sign they just wanted more money and we’re waiting for us to drop out.

They were also going to put it up for more because house prices have increased

YOU pulled out, they didn't pull out and then put the price up

Houses are really hard to find atm so they were probably waiting for the right house instead of rushing into buying anything they could find

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2022 09:04

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We haven’t said anything nasty to you just trying to show you there is another way of looking at things that is not so hostile to your previous vendors.
But you have been quite over the top rude to us implying we are psychotic 🤷🏼‍♀️

ElizaJones · 01/07/2022 09:09

ah you’re one of those. Start a thread and then because we don’t all fall over ourselves to agree with you throw a massive toddler size tantrum.

HappyHappyHermit · 01/07/2022 09:19

I think you should put this behind you and find somewhere else, maybe a newbuild would be a less stressful option at this stage for you. It can and does take time though, it took us around 6 months to buy a house that had no onward chain. Winter is the hardest time to sell a house so it is likely that however hard someone looks during this time they may not find anything suitable, Spring/Summer is far better.

Snorkers · 01/07/2022 19:45

You sound incredibly entitled and it seems that you are getting what you deserve. You want REVENGE on a seller who remarkets their house after you pulled out because they hadn't found anywhere to buy? are you serious? What a brat. Go and give your head a wooble and think about the sort of person you want to be for your chidren.

SausageAndCash · 01/07/2022 20:02

OP, how do you know they weren’t looking / didn’t look?

Yes it was a very fast moving market, which is why so many people were making offers and not having them accepted. This board is full of people making offers in competition with up to 15 offering buyers for the same property. Many people have made multiple offers and lost out every time…. so far.

And actually, if prices had risen so much, precisely BECAUSE of that market that made it hard for your vendors to find somewhere, they were holding the faith with you and behaving well rather than withdrawing and upping the price, or gazumping you in the eve of exchange. Though they might have done that, who knows?

Did you have evidence that your vendors were not even trying?

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 20:08

Go and give your head a wooble and think about the sort of person you want to be for your chidren.

Err, that's a proportionate response 😆

BlueMongoose · 02/07/2022 09:21

Without POA or equivalent the 'sellers' of house 2 ought never to have put the house on the market. They had no right to do so. They should have sorted out legal rights to sell on the property before even thinking of going to a house agent. The Land Registry should have a copy of the deeds. It sounds like you were just being mucked about with.

BlueMongoose · 02/07/2022 09:22

SausageAndCash · 01/07/2022 20:02

OP, how do you know they weren’t looking / didn’t look?

Yes it was a very fast moving market, which is why so many people were making offers and not having them accepted. This board is full of people making offers in competition with up to 15 offering buyers for the same property. Many people have made multiple offers and lost out every time…. so far.

And actually, if prices had risen so much, precisely BECAUSE of that market that made it hard for your vendors to find somewhere, they were holding the faith with you and behaving well rather than withdrawing and upping the price, or gazumping you in the eve of exchange. Though they might have done that, who knows?

Did you have evidence that your vendors were not even trying?

It looks to me like they were waiting for the buyers to pull out to up the price.

Confuzzled19 · 02/07/2022 10:05

Agree with majority of posters that you are making assumptions and taking it too personally.

No proof that they had no intention to sell to you.

Just because you put your life and baby plans on hold for a house, doesn’t mean others should; how dare they still go on holiday and set aside house hunting for a short while?!

The right house is worth waiting for in the current market. There are many chains at standstill, just look at the listing dates on right move for houses under offer.

The revenge part is just ridiculous - grow up.

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