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Revenge ideas?

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frustrateddad1985 · 30/06/2022 19:12

So long story…wife and I sold our house last May (2021) and moved to Yorkshire to a rented house whilst we found somewhere to buy. We found a nice place and put in a generous offer on it (which was accepted) in October 2021. We asked at the time “as a condition of accepting the offer, cannot be taken off the market, with no more viewings?” The vendors said they wanted to be fair to everyone, so let the viewings that had already been arranged take place, but no more. Flashforward to February 2022, and absolutely no movement at all. The vendors haven’t found anywhere to live, and we’re getting increasingly frustrated as our mortgage is going to expire. We called the estate agent in our February holidays (we’re both teachers), and we’re told that the vendors, who we’ve been nagging on and off for the last 4 months, have gone away skiing for two weeks. We had enough, so we pulled out. Ok and behold, three days later the house is back on the market for £45,000 more than our offer. Absolutely raging, not least because by this point we’ve spent over £1,000 on solicitors fees, time, searches, surveys, etc, when they clearly had absolutely no intention of selling to us and we’re just stringing us along.

In late February, being more desperate, we made an offer on a different house - not what we wanted, smaller, but then again mortgage prices had gone up by then, so we had to compromise. Flash forward to now (June 2022), and we’re not a step closer to completing. Know why? Some grown up kids are selling it on behalf of their parents, who are both in homes with dementia. The kids don’t have power of attorney, nobody knows where the deeds are, the owners solicitors went out of business in 1997, so they can’t be traced for a copy…all the while the estate agents are stringing along (“of they’re ob it, don’t worry!”, “we understand your frustration…!”) and we’re still without a home, and a extra £1,600 in solicitors fees AGAIN down the pan (approaching £3,000, all told). Add to this that we’ve lost a year of our life. Also, the first mortgage we got on the first property was £930 pcm, on a £385,000 house. The second mortgage was up to £1,100pcm on a £375,000 house (!), and now, having just made ANOTHER offer on a different house, it’s up to £1,270 on a £345,000 house. So these two *ts have literally cost us months of our lives, and tens of thousands of pounds.

Is there ANYTHING we can do to recoup our money, or even just make ourselves feel better? It’s seriously depressed both of us, to the point where we just don’t want to take any positive steps because we feel that it’ll all just crash down around us. Help!

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frustrateddad1985 · 01/07/2022 07:33

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ShaunaTheSheep · 01/07/2022 07:36

No need to be so rude

It was your choice to pull out.

LoveLabradors · 01/07/2022 07:38

Good grief. The drama and now the unpleasantness. Sometimes things in life don’t quite work out how you would like them to, it’s one of those things. It’s hardly life changing or damaging, get some perspective. You sound petulant and entitled.

Beees · 01/07/2022 07:39

My wife told me that Mumsnet was full of psychotics trying to out nasty each other but I didn’t believe her.

Says the person who started a thread asking how to exact revenge over a situation that was caused by you pulling out in the first place...

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 07:40

Unfortunately there is a huge hypocrisy is buying & selling. If this thread was from the sellers perspective about their buyers being slow for whatever reason posters would tell them to drop the buyers & not to wait around. Likewise it's generally considered ok for sellers to gazump buyers but if buyers gazunder sellers than the buyers are the devil incarnate. I can't understand tbh as most people have to buy & sell 😆

GrabbyGabby · 01/07/2022 07:44

Mate, don't think you are cut out for this house buying and selling melarkey. Not even the house of your dreams is worth having a coronary over. Maybe use some of the money from your generous offer to go on a yoga retreat or something.

hgaj · 01/07/2022 07:44

I'm sorry it's been so frustrating but as others have said I don't think it's right to be so angry at the first sellers for going on holiday. Next time I'd suggest holding off spending so much until it's clear the sale is proceedable. Lots of people don't commence searches until the chain is complete.

Candleabra · 01/07/2022 07:45

You sound very angry.
You need to let it go. Reevaluate what you want from a house move and start again.

stillsmilingtoday · 01/07/2022 07:49

OP I’m sorry you feel so hard done by but there is no need to turn on the mumsnet community just because they don’t say what you had hoped! I have always enjoyed the range of opinions here.

LoveLabradors · 01/07/2022 07:54

Also you mentioned the second house and the fact the parents had dementia and POA issues, so understandably complex. Now that IS stressful and hard to deal with, but you curiously lacked empathy for that.

SausageAndCash · 01/07/2022 07:56

It’s horrible, stressful, upsetting and expensive. And this board is full of similar takes of misery.

But in reality what can anyone say except ‘it’s shit’?

OK. Before you try again:
Increase your chances by looking for chain free properties
If it is probate ask searching questions before making the offer: Do they have probate? Are the family all in agreement about selling? Do they have the paperwork in place?
Keep your solicitor chasing. Has the paperwork been returned promptly? I know it’s hard but you can’t leave it til half term to chase. Push for weekly updates on progress in a named list of outstanding matters / queries etc

You are at an advantage because you are a chain free buyer, but that also means you don’t have an EA working for you. Often the selling EA will chase the vendors EA and solicitors because their commission is paid on a completed sale. Solicitors get paid whatever. So do your own pushing and chasing. (Without crossing over into harassing).

And…. Good luck!

Soontobe60 · 01/07/2022 07:58

frustrateddad1985 · 01/07/2022 07:13

Consider this - you’ve put your house on the market. It’s October. You get a generous offer, and you’re free to go house shopping. You don’t make a move at all on any of the houses you see between October and February. Admittedly there Christmas and Nee Year in there, but that still leaves 14-15 weeks to have a good look round. But it’s ok, because in February you’ve got two weeks holiday booked - ideal, that’s two solid weeks you can go looking at houses and try to find something you really love. What do you do? You go skiing instead. It’s screamingly obvious that they never had any intention at all of selling their house to us. We thought at the time “what would we have done in that holiday?”, and the answer is, we would’ve used that two weeks to try and find somewhere to live; maybe that’s because we’re nice, honest people. If we’d changed our minds about selling, we would’ve told the buyers, not just strung them along so that we had an offer in the bag just in case nothing better turned up. The fact that quite a few people here can’t see that is really, really worrying.

Oh dear! You sound like the stress of this has taken over your life. Everything you have said is just an assumption. You have no idea whether they were actively looking for a property or not. It’s not ‘screamingly obvious’ at all. My dd moved house last year. It took 9 months for them to find their new house once they’d received an offer on their old one. That’s because they had very specific requirements and properties that met those requirements were in very short supply.
it was your choice to pull out. What did you think the vendors would do at that point? Just say ‘oh no, we can’t sell our house’? If you had stuck it out you may well have been looking at moving into that house by now.

SausageAndCash · 01/07/2022 07:59

But no. There is nothing you can do to recoup your money. It’s shit.

Soontobe60 · 01/07/2022 08:00

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I’ve reported this ‘comment’. It’s beyond rude, it’s insulting and nasty.

oldageprancer · 01/07/2022 08:05

It isn't like this everywhere. Scotland has a better system overall than England, for example. Until everyone complains enough - to their MP - it will stay the same

cestlavielife · 01/07/2022 08:06

You can have a baby in rented accomodation. Many do.
A baby is stressful too
Find ways to manage stress.
House buying is stressful. You don t know your sellers stressses. ((Well second you do... )

ZenNudist · 01/07/2022 08:07

You messed up pulling out of the first purchase. Not surprising they couldn't even start looking for a house until after you pulled out. As pp say youd expect new housing stock in the spring.

Depending on what they were moving to but if bigger it would be especially hard as theres just not a lot of houses at that end of the market and so many are not tenable. Really stupid as in a sellers market they just relist for more money and a new buyer snaps it up.

So it's on you being so impatient. House sales can take ages. You could always have taken the attitude that you had lost legal fees on house 1 so would hang on for house 2.

Now you are still nowhere, £3,500 down and will have to start over with housec3 which is likely to take ages too. Be more patient the system is not in your favour.

We also lost a house and our legal costs when the sellers pulled out. That was annoying but we found somewhere much better and they effectively did us a favour.

cestlavielife · 01/07/2022 08:09

Plus your title is "revenge ideas"
That is nasty
But no one has helped you with that have they ?

Roselilly36 · 01/07/2022 08:09

Sounds like you have been very unlucky, tbh. Too patient with vendor 1, didn’t establish the legal situation correctly with the second property.

We moved last year, our buyers wanted us to go into rented if we didn’t find anywhere, we refused, as property prices were rising, lucky for us we found a probate property within a couple of weeks of accepting our buyers offer. So it didn’t hold anyone up.

I wish you well, just insist that you know the full story of the next property, including the downward chain. Good luck OP, I hope you find your perfect home, you just need to move on, sadly the money spent can’t be recovered.

PlntLady · 01/07/2022 08:15

It takes a looooooong time! We just bought a house - cut and dry and it still took just over 8 months. No chain either side, we were FTB will a very big deposit, mortgage all in place, house was in probate and all paperwork was in order before we started, all those involved in the sale were happy to go ahead. Both myself and the lady dealing with the sale pushed out solicitors literally every other day for the first 4 months and every day for the last 4 months. And ours was a quick process compared to our various friends who moved recently.
It just take a very log time atm as the market it flooded with buyers and there arnt really enough solicitors to deal with the sales (is basically what every told us during the process).

SaltandPepper22 · 01/07/2022 08:17

Lesson for next time:
-don’t pull out with nothing else to go to, you could have looked at other houses without withdrawing your offer, keeping the offered on house on the back burner.
-don’t even think about engaging solicitors or organising surveys until the chain is complete.

I really don’t think you have been shat all over OP, the vendors have looked after their own interests as would anyone else when buying and selling a house. My parents sold their house STC in March and only found somewhere last week - they weren’t going to be pushed until buying something they didn’t like.

SaltandPepper22 · 01/07/2022 08:18

And we bought an empty house last year as FTB and it still took about 10 weeks to get to exhange!

hatchyu · 01/07/2022 08:22

It isn't like this everywhere. Scotland has a better system overall than England, for example. Until everyone complains enough - to their MP - it will stay the same

I don't understand why we have this rubbish system.

EaselArt · 01/07/2022 08:22

This poster was looking for horrible ideas, not common sense, he didn’t get them, and now he’s pissed off. I’m not going to engage anymore.

DameCelia · 01/07/2022 08:25

As an ex conveyancer this thread has just reminded me why teachers are regarded as the second worst type of client. 😂😂