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About to put our house up for sale.. anyone else?

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DomusAurea · 14/03/2022 08:24

We are taking the plunge and it's happening - we are selling our house (and relocating 200 miles away but that's another thread I guess) - anyone else? I could do with a collective handhold!

This is where we are now:

  • finishing the last small jobs such as painting a ceiling
  • having meets with estate agents for valuation
  • nervously searching rightmove for possible houses in our relocation area (there isn't a lot!)

Are you going for sale soon? Tell me how it's going!

(we are in the South East)

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Whippetquick · 04/09/2022 09:16

House on market since April. Buyer 1, pulled out because my house was too small apparently. They were downsizing, on 2nd viewing decided that because all their furniture wouldnt fit so pulled out

Buyer 2 pulled out as mortgage rates went up

Buyer 3 their buyer pulled out

I am now back on market again. One viewing Friday. I have until 16th Sept to sell or my vendor is pulling out.

Whippetquick · 04/09/2022 09:18

That was for poster talking about people pulling out

TheEggChair · 04/09/2022 09:23

Whippetquick · 04/09/2022 09:16

House on market since April. Buyer 1, pulled out because my house was too small apparently. They were downsizing, on 2nd viewing decided that because all their furniture wouldnt fit so pulled out

Buyer 2 pulled out as mortgage rates went up

Buyer 3 their buyer pulled out

I am now back on market again. One viewing Friday. I have until 16th Sept to sell or my vendor is pulling out.

I'm in a similar position, my buyer pulled out when the rates went up. My vendor said they would wait but obviously they can't wait forever. We had a few viewings yesterday so fingers crossed someone makes an offer.

The market has definitely dipped a bit since the last time we put the house on the market in the spring. Back then we had 3 open days and 6 apts booked for each day with 3 offers. This time only 3 viewings yesterday & nothing booked for this afternoon's slots. People are definitely holding back because of the financial crisis.

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 10:21

So we had two viewers booked in today and EA called to book in another one, they are a second viewing to which I thought 'great!' until I realised they were the ones who moaned about our stairs at the front and were overall very dismissive, saying they werent interested when asked for feedback 😕 feels kinda weird that they are returning! Anyone else experienced this?

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 10:34

@TheEggChair totally, this is very much an 'entry level' house for the area and for those trying to get in for the schools so it's an attractive prospect in 'normal' times. Houses here normally go for 10 to 20% over home report but there's been a marked slowdown since Spring. Our fixed price is definitely drawing more people in (even those who said no on first viewing!)

ecochiroptera · 04/09/2022 11:47

@InTheCludgie I haven't personally experienced this but my mum has. Man viewed her house and was extremely negative. He supposedly didn't like anything about the house. But then he wanted a second viewing. Again, he seemed to hate everything. After that second viewing he made an extremely low offer because "everything that could possibly be wrong with a house is in this house". My mum rejected his offer, he upped it, she rejected it etc. It kept going but she made it pretty clear that she didn't want to sell to him, no matter how much he offered. We think he was trying to essentially 'neg' her, so she'd believe him that her house was awful and take his low offer out of desperation. Luckily she easily found a nice buyer at asking price.

I doubt this is a common approach though. Maybe your viewer is a bit inexperienced and realised that what they want they can't find for their budget. So now they're willing to compromise?

Twiglets1 · 04/09/2022 13:21

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 10:21

So we had two viewers booked in today and EA called to book in another one, they are a second viewing to which I thought 'great!' until I realised they were the ones who moaned about our stairs at the front and were overall very dismissive, saying they werent interested when asked for feedback 😕 feels kinda weird that they are returning! Anyone else experienced this?

Yes when selling my Dads flat in London we had a buyer who made rude comments about it TWICE on 2 separate viewings then went on to make an offer and buy it!
It could have been a deliberate ploy to manage our expectations price wise I don’t know. We were so reluctant to accept their offer ( because of their earlier rudeness) the EA had to get a deposit out of them before we would accept their offer!

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 14:23

So stairs man has viewed, he was a lot keener and said he is likely going to make an offer. Surprise doesn't cover it!

manateeandcake · 04/09/2022 15:36

That's very encouraging news, @InTheCludgie! Maybe he was just in a bad mood for the first viewing? Fingers crossed it's a good offer.

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 18:03

So the viewer has made a verbal offer at home report value via the EA, says he will get this in writing tomorrow. This is great news but DH is very reserved and cautious about it all, he's not convinced about this offer tbh

Positivelypatient · 04/09/2022 18:16

@InTheCludgie that's great news about the offer. What a bizarre way to go about viewings on your house though, basically dissing it then making an offer. Maybe its what @ecochiroptera said and people are staying to be a bit more realistic with what their budgets will stretch to.

In terms of buyers pulling out when they're well into the buying process maybe now that it's widely accepted that interest rates will continue to rise, offers will be realistic and not OTT, which would lead to more sales getting past the post? I dunno, that's my thoughts anyway!

InTheCludgie · 04/09/2022 19:45

Thanks @Positivelypatient , there really isn't a lot on the market here atm and it's priced really well compared to similar ones so I think he has maybe had his eyes opened a bit. I hope you're right about the rising interest rates meaning better pricing and people being more sensible with their offers, it must be absolutely gutting to get really far in the process just for people to walk away really easily.

InTheCludgie · 05/09/2022 15:06

So that's the formal offer been received and accepted, plus the house we are buying has been removed from the market again.
Good luck to everyone who has viewings upcoming or is awaiting feedback on ones already done hope you get good news soon too.

Volterra · 05/09/2022 15:36

Great news @InTheCludgie

manateeandcake · 05/09/2022 18:02

That's great @InTheCludgie You must be relieved.

We have indeed had a very low offer from the interested couple who have viewed twice. They offered 900, asking price is 975. They are FTBs with a mortgage AIP. They must know this is a cheeky figure based on what else is on the market nearby. Also our neighbours' house, v v similar to ours, recently sold for 985 and another, slightly less nice house is on the market for 985 down the road. I assume they are hoping that we will start negotations and end up somewhere around 935, which we still feel is too low. We are going to reject the offer and they can come back with another one if they want to.

Sigh. I wish it would all be over, and I am looking forward to not having to clean for viewings. But we've only been on the market two weeks and I think we need to hold our nerve.

SpaceyCake · 05/09/2022 18:29

That's excellent @InTheCludgie . Hope things start moving quickly for you. 😃

Positivelypatient · 07/09/2022 07:21

Great news @InTheCludgie you must be relieved to be on your way now.

@manateeandcake holding your nerve is what its all about but it's hard, trying to second guess buyers and their motivations, have they got other irons in the fire etc. Good luck.

I've had 8 viewings now since Monday and 1 offer - to be fair its a good one, mid range of the guide price and a FTB/cash buyer.... the offer came yesterday so I carried on with the viewings for that day as it felt a bit too quick to accept the 1st offer without knowing how popular the house might be.

Since then there has been a 2nd viewing booked for the weekend, a woman did a video tour for her daughter in London who now wants to view in person. EA said offer likely but believe mortgage involved.

Feel a bit worried the cash buyer might get fed up of waiting for an answer if I do the 2nd viewing on Saturday. To be honest any offer that came from that would need to be quite a bit higher for me to accept. So maybe I'm wasting time here.

Might have a chat with EA if they call to give feedback from yesterdays viewings.

This is the time when selling on your own is a bit daunting!

Volterra · 07/09/2022 08:29

@Positivelypatient for me it is about maximising chance of actually getting moved rather than the money in this climate with so many sales falling through. I would be tempted to accept the cash offer but only after hearing feedback from the others.

manateeandcake · 07/09/2022 09:27

@Positivelypatient I definitely recommend having a chat about it with your EA as they may have some insight that helps you plan what to do. DH had a phone call with ours yesterday which was very helpful in terms of how to respond to our low offer and how to think about the potential tradeoff of the sale going through versus maximising the price. As @Volterra says, this seems more important than ever at the moment.

Positivelypatient · 07/09/2022 09:56

Thanks @Volterra and @manateeandcake you've confirmed pretty much my thoughts on this. I will sit tight and speak to EA today. My house isn't big potatoes but it is my only asset.

SpaceyCake · 07/09/2022 10:17

@Positivelypatient I would be tempted to go with the cash buyer too, if they really are a genuine cash buyer. Less likely for the sale to fall through and the process might be a bit quicker too.

ecochiroptera · 07/09/2022 13:45

I could do with some advice. Our interested viewer who wants a second viewing still hasn't actually booked that second viewing because his builder mate is busy. He will supposedly be doing it next week. We have no other viewings lined up. Before he showed up, we were planning to drop the price significantly to revive interest. I feel unsure what to do now. If we drop our price now and he was going to make an offer after the second viewing, then we would have potentially lost out on quite a bit of money because he's obviously going to offer at the lower price not the current price. But if we wait around for him, we might end up waiting for nothing. We are not in a particular rush but I also don't want to be "that house" that sticks around forever... What would you do?

RidingMyBike · 07/09/2022 14:27

Set a date in your head (and discuss with EA) after which you'll reduce the price. So if he hasn't viewed by the middle of next week (say) then go ahead. Don't keep it stringing along more and more.

Time it so that it reduces and people have time to book viewings for the next weekend. And check if the reduction would bring it into the next price band down on RM as that means a whole other lot of potential buyers will see it on there.

Doubleraspberry · 07/09/2022 14:32

Yes, I would give him some time to sort out the builder but prepare to drop for next weekend?

Our mortgage STILL isn't sorted and we are now holding up the entire chain for the house we are buying. The estate agent is very stressed (although had failed to check in with us for six weeks so also stressed because she knows this is partly her fault). We have been promised a final answer on the mortgage TODAY. There's a possibility they'll ask for another document which we won't be able to provide for another fortnight, in which case our buyer might just sack us off.

We do like the house but feel there would be others out there if this goes wrong, so aren't as stressed as we could be, but don't want to wreck everyone else's plans. So fingers crossed. (We are also viewing another house that just came on for substantially less money in case we get a big no on the mortgage, as we could buy this one on my mortgage capacity alone - hedging our bets!)

ThisMustBeMyDream · 08/09/2022 00:21

Fuck. Me.

This is absolutely the most stressful bastarding thing I've ever done in my life. And I've been divorced, so that is saying something 🥴. Here is my saga. And boy is it quite some saga. Settle in with a drink if you're going to read it 😳.

So we went on the market for offers over 180k on 23rd March. Sale agreed 4th April for 191k. They pulled out for personal reasons late April.

Back on the market with new agent to get a fresh listing on RM. Sold 8th May for 193k. They pulled out for personal reasons yet again (after me waiting for weeks for them to sell their house!) at the end of June. That agent wanted to get the sale so kept me hanging about for 2 weeks whilst they pissed about with non genuine viewers and people not turning up etc. They agreed to let me go after the final no show from a viewer.

I went with a new agent again for the fresh listing in mid July although they took so long to get the listing on that I was then at work for a straight run of shifts whilst the kids finished school and we were going on holiday for the end of July so couldn't do viewings until we got back early August. Sale once again agreed on 8th August for £193k. This time they seemed proactive. They had their survey booked. It would have been done the week after offer but I couldn't fit it in due to another holiday until 1st sept. So that was done last Thursday.

Cut to today, and the agent rings to say that the buyers wanted to renegotiate after the survey and they they would send it to me. I told the agent absolutely not. I was not renegotiating as if I did then there would be no sale. I couldn't move with my onward purchase otherwise. I also already knew the outcome of the survey from the discussion with the surveyor last week. He told me the main issue was to do with the sub floor almost being breached on the rear patio which would need to be lifted and relayed lower to prevent long term issues with damp. That patio was in when I moved in 14 years ago. Never been any issues, but obviously someone may want to sort it out. It needs rejoining anyway, and one of the things I would have done if I'd been staying was to put a new patio down anyway. The report states that the issues raised are common issues with houses of this age (1930s) and resale will not be an issue. So no, I'm not renegotiating.

They went back to the buyer who said she wouldn't continue with the offer. I said that's fine, go back to market.

20 mins later I get a call to say they had contacted the other party who had offered and he was willing to offer £187k. I said I couldn't accept that offer but if he would go to 193k then we had a sale.

10 mins later, sale agreed!

In the space of an hour I went from extreme low to extreme high. I feel like I've got whiplash.

In the midst of all this we haven't even covered my own purchase. So my vendors haven't found an onward purchase still. I offered late May. I made my mortgage application mid June as the rates were going up. Was for 1.83%. Lots of fucking about from natwest to my mortgage advisor but basically late July they came back with 10k less than the AIP which meant I couldn't move. Mortgage advisor said only other option was likely to be HSBC but rates much higher (mid 3% range) which obviously I wasn't happy with. So at this point my finances changed a little with a pay increase being agreed backdated to April. We got a letter from my employer 2 weeks later to confirm this which natwest accepted. Late August natwest came back to say they had relooked at the whole thing again and were now reducing the whole offer by a further 20k, so 30k in total! That news came on a Friday evening as we were due to go on holiday that night. I had to just lock it away and not think about it until we returned as I'd just have cried the whole time. It felt like the end of the road. There aren't many high st lenders open to me despite a perfect credit score as some of my income is made up of child DLA which very few lenders will accept as income. The mortgage advisor said she was going to try nationwide. So she did, and the AIP was for the amount I needed. So that is where we are up to with that. Last ditch attempt really. The full application is in, valuation is done, so it is a waiting game. The rate is 3.79 though, which is another £200 a month on the payments which makes me so cross. Fucking natwest bastarding shitheads.

Basically the margin for me to move is so tight, I am very close to being priced out the market. I can only get 210k on the mortgage, 60k equity from mine. I need 9k of that for moving costs. The house I'm buying is £260k. I'm moving from a 3 bed semi to a 4 bed semi as my child who gets dla needs his own room and my house can not do that for him. The 260k is the price of the next step up really. I already live in a "cheap" area. I can't move to the absolute cheapest areas as I can't move my child's school and he needs to be in this area for the high school catchment that has the autism unit attached. He doesn't have an ECHP so we can't have a named school. So catchment is the only way he can get in (yr5 currently).

I am honestly so fucking stressed. I've sunk money in to this house to make it sellable, new kitchen, relaid driveway, new decor in places, etc etc. I want to cry every day. Why is this whole process so fucking terrible?! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭