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Thread 2: "Anyone not being picky - and STILL can't find anything?"

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Momniscient · 10/01/2022 18:38

Just spotted the first one is full Shock so have set up thread two so we can keep talking with minimal delay. Hoping that tagging works regardless ...

RightMove addicts, and serial refreshers of other property websites, share your troubles!

Posters from last two pages in the thread and OP:
@PessimisticOptimist
@Eastie77Returns
@RidingMyBike
@beguilingeyes
@DanisEndo
@EmmaH2022
@dubyalass
@BennyBean
@ByeByeMissAmericanPie
@areyouhavingagiraffe
@CheltenhamLady
@doubleraspberry
@YukoandHiro
@TulipsfromAmsterdam
@MummyJ12
@starseeking
@GoinSouth
@MiracleBaby2022

Original thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/property/4346330-Anyone-not-being-picky-and-STILL-cant-find-anything

OP posts:
J417 · 31/01/2022 09:36

Morning
To wait or not to wait for the Feb/March housing stock

Viewed a house, location is perfect for school run and my work commute to train station. On the edge of the catchment area
Just that it had 3 competing offers at asking and thinking what I should offer. Prices have been insane with property flying off the shelve at the moment.
Or wait for the Feb/Mar housing stock

ToodlesMcGee · 31/01/2022 09:52

Wow this thread moves quickly! @J417 I think I'm going to wait for the March houses

dubyalass · 31/01/2022 13:54

I'm keeping looking, and I'll offer on anything I like. No news on my cheeky offer yet.

Annoyingly some really nice houses have come on at the other end of the county, but it's just too far to commute (most my work is at this end).

dubyalass · 31/01/2022 13:57

Also there are usually a few of the older terraces for sale in my preferred location at any one time, but there's nothing at the moment and I'm expecting there to be a bit of a flurry at some point soon. Unless they all moved in the last two years 🙄

J417 · 31/01/2022 14:18

I have made an offer 5% over asking

Stressed out .
One part of me wanted to get this house, but then the renovation required ...

Siouxtse1 · 31/01/2022 16:41

J417

Look at it another way. How long have you been looking? And has anything otherwise perfect come up whilst you've been searching? If you've got the money and are comfortable paying it, go for it.

Renovation, while it is happening is pretty crap. BUT when it is finished, you get the satisfaction that you created/ designed what you get. It will be worth it.

Prices are still expected to rise (probably only 5% this year). If you've got that tingle and you can do it now, go for it. Otherwise, you may find yourself stuck on this thread 12 months from now, wondering why you didn't roll up your sleeves and get stuck in....

Note, if you don't get that tingle about the house, don't offer on it just because you're panicked about not buying something (anything!).

dubyalass · 31/01/2022 17:22

Note, if you don't get that tingle about the house, don't offer on it just because you're panicked about not buying something (anything!).

Good advice, and I need to remember this! Oh for a tingle!

CheltenhamLady · 31/01/2022 18:07

I am not sure if everyone will get that tingle at the moment. The state of the market and speed at which it is moving, means more of us are weighing up pros and cons, rather than just going for the 'tingle' Smile

EmmaH2022 · 31/01/2022 20:16

I am quite baffled by the tingly thing
Not a euphemism Smile
Just that surely for most it’s something that has to fit needs and be in budget.

Siouxtse1 · 31/01/2022 21:00

I'm not saying don't use your head, but the tingle is about possibility, opportunity and the feeling that you will (eventually) feel happy and settled being in that spot. You can walk in and just feel like this could be home. And just like partners, there isn't just one house that will suit.

And yes, I am one of those lucky people who can feel like this in a dowdy do-er upper. No, I don't earn a fortune (I'm currently home- schooling, though when we move the DCs will go into mainstream schooling again) and nor does my husband, but the tingle is still achievable and I actively encourage people to act on it, if they find it! I hope that everyone that buys a property gets to experience it at least once in their lifetime....

Fitting needs and being in budget is first sift of whatever you're seeing in the particulars you get sent. Then you work out possibles from there and only go to see the ones that pique your interest. If I went and saw everything I got shown I'd be a deflated mess, but because I have my specific list of what I will and won't compromise on (we sat and worked out what the new house was likely to be actually used for and what we disliked most about our last place), I guess the opportunities for tingles is vastly increased.

Starseeking · 31/01/2022 21:33

I agree with what @Siouxtse1 said. I wasn't particularly excited to view the house I'm currently buying, as when I saw it online it fit 80% of what I was looking for. When I walked in, it immediately felt like it would be home, which I suppose was the tingle, despite knowing what my compromises were before even viewing. I can fix all of these over time, given it's in the centre of the area I wanted to be in, I'm pretty lucky not to have had to give up on location.

J417 · 01/02/2022 08:25

@Siouxtse1

J417

Look at it another way. How long have you been looking? And has anything otherwise perfect come up whilst you've been searching? If you've got the money and are comfortable paying it, go for it.

Renovation, while it is happening is pretty crap. BUT when it is finished, you get the satisfaction that you created/ designed what you get. It will be worth it.

Prices are still expected to rise (probably only 5% this year). If you've got that tingle and you can do it now, go for it. Otherwise, you may find yourself stuck on this thread 12 months from now, wondering why you didn't roll up your sleeves and get stuck in....

Note, if you don't get that tingle about the house, don't offer on it just because you're panicked about not buying something (anything!).

I sold my place and relocated to London last spring and have been looking since then, living in a rental. We have an offer accepted on a (dream house) property in last June but the vendor (still) after 6 months couldn't find a place. Estate agent has gone radio silence in between unless I rang him up and he forgot who I am.
Meanwhile property prices have shoot up here as very limited supply.

I am kicking myself and crying every night that I haven't offered on a chain free/short chain property (one lack of driveway, one is too big for us), but exchanged and completed.
Rents are very expensive and we cant save any so I am very desperate to buy my property.

@Siouxtse1, I am in panic and I think I will offer on anything that looks decent. I also need to complete before 2024 Feb or else I need to pay an additional of 3% ( I co-owned a help to buy council house my mum lived, even if it didn't worth anything)

I am consumed by panic that I wouldn't find anything this year. I offered on another property 3% over and got outbid.

I got a 10% salary increase this year so could go for higher prices but those unseen prices are worrying that I am in negative equity.

I am sorry but I am in a bad state worrying 1) can't buy any house in 2022 2) buy a house but went in negative equity 3) buy a house that cannot sell
sorry folks for giving out so much negative energy

Siouxtse1 · 01/02/2022 09:03

J417

We're also in an eye-watering rental, so I do feel your pain on that one!

Congratulations on your pay increase- that's something good to remind yourself of when you're feeling down.

It's very hard at the moment, but I do think that the housing market is in quite a unique situation now. People say "Oh it was hard when we were buying a house years ago, interest rates so big and inflation and unemployment.....". But we're now getting inflation, rising mortgage rates (not the eye-watering %, but on much larger capital than in previous generations), rising food and fuel bills.

The housing market now is suffering mainly (at least for people on this thread) from a serious lack of supply. And because there is a lack of supply, the asking prices go up. And then they go up some more if it drags on because the vendors then need more money to get what they think they need. So in effect, we're part funding someone else's dream because otherwise we can't get what they don't want anymore.

Have you definitely missed out on the place you offered 5% over on? Do you not feel about it as Starseeking suggested? If you can sense the possibility and can cope with the compromises until you can get work done, does that not still make you excited to buy somewhere?
I go with my gut, most people I know are sometimes bemused by what I can see potential in. BUT, it always comes right in the end. We might have to put up with long and dusty renovations (I've chased out an entire house to rewire it before now- obviously with an electrician's supervision), but in the end, we've got what we wanted.

But as you get older, your needs change. So what was right then, may not be right in 10 or 20 years. And that's the same with all of life, isn't it? What is happening now will not be forever. You feel overwhelmed now, but it's most likely, when you least expect it, you'll get a boost. Renovation doesn't have to be straightaway (it won't be anyway unless you know a way to magic up some decent contractors?). When you've found a place and decided how to knock it into a you-sized shape, you'll be stronger again because you'll already have overcome your most immediate worry, finding somewhere to call home.

areyouhavingagiraffe · 01/02/2022 09:19

@J417, just reaching out to say I feel your stress. I also sold last year, been looking since last Spring. Now staying with my parents, whilst house hunting. There is loads of space here, but I didn't think I would be here that long...
The whole thing is worrying, and I am trying not to think about it. I offered on a place last Monday, offer accepted and by yesterday I pulled out. Had several more visits to the area over the weekend and the house was on a road with very busy speeding traffic. I do feel I perhaps offered out of desperation but then it was giving me sleepless nights. Was a big renovation project too. I offered 6% over asking. Anyway, glad I pulled out but yeah there is very little coming to the market

Siouxtse1 · 01/02/2022 09:38

@J417 and @areyouhavingagiraffe

I've been on various housing threads for the last three or four years, picking up hints and tips because I knew we'd eventually be moving. Of all of the people who were serious about moving (and you both fall into that category being in rented/living with family), every single person from the first two years has moved. And the majority of the rest are excited to be moving soon.

When you find a place to call home, you will know. It won't be all rainbows and fairy cakes, getting through the crappy buying rigmarole in this country will be just the start. One of the first things I realised is that you have absolutely no control over the actions of other people (i.e vendors) and that's stressy, particularly if you're straightforward and efficient yourself.

Don't stress the ones that got away, they weren't meant to be. And don't beat yourself up because you didn't like somewhere you think you should have on paper. Photographs and video tours can only convey so much, you don't get ambiance and a sense of community from a video tour (not on Rightmove, anyway!).

areyouhavingagiraffe · 01/02/2022 09:42

Thanks @Siouxtse1. I find it so crazy that after a 5 minutes viewing you either offer or walk away. So I offered, was accepted and then asked for another viewing "so I could plan the works". Second viewing was okay. Then I did the trips to see the street at various times of the day (to be fair my Dad had said it was a busy street but I was in denial), anyway he was right and that was a dealbreaker for me

J417 · 01/02/2022 11:25

@areyouhavingagiraffe

I hope you found one soon as I am pretty in the same boat.

@Siouxtse1, @areyouhavingagiraffe

Thanks for sharing and support. it really helps
I kept kicking myself on the chain free one and not offered on. I kept regretting, I need tips to move on please.
Every time I walked past it thinking why why why

I just spoke to my GP as well as my eyes keep twitching and lost lots of hair. She said probably due to stress but will get some blood tests to confirm

wannabeamummysobad · 01/02/2022 11:45

I'm back. Had hoped 2022 would bring lots of new properties to the market but so far not so good...
We've sold one of our properties so can buy chain free but now we are staying at the in-laws until we can move into our other property. In the meantime we continue to search for the illusive semi detached, off street parking, family garden, catchment for outstanding/good primary schools,

J417 · 01/02/2022 12:23

Viewed another property. Everything (almost) tick except driveway and school catchment ....

J417 · 01/02/2022 14:20

@J417

I have made an offer 5% over asking

Stressed out .
One part of me wanted to get this house, but then the renovation required ...

Estate agent asked again for full and final.

It already quite overpriced in my opinion, given the condition of the house. However, it was the only one selling in the neighborhood at the moment so it can command any price I guess

I was very tempted to up my price and then my head sinks in and keep to the original 5%

Siouxtse1 · 01/02/2022 14:28

If it's all you think it's worth, that's all you can realistically offer.

Make sure you put something in writing to the estate agents highlighting your chain free position, stating that you wouldn't be gazundering after a survey unless there are serious hidden structural faults. Do you know why the vendors are selling? Do you know if they've found something they like/ is it likely to be part of a chain?

Highlight your flexibility with their timeframe (if for example, they are after a new build) or your desire to move quickly (if it's a done and dusted probate, or a care home move).

wannabeamummysobad · 01/02/2022 14:30

@J417 same things are happening over here. All I can say is if you feel it's vastly overpriced the mortgage lender might also so short of the buyer covering the shortfall/seller reducing the price the property will be back on before you know it.

It's so stressful though

Eastie77Returns · 01/02/2022 15:14

@J417 completely feel and understand your pain. Sold last Summer and thought I’d find somewhere quickly. We (partner and kids) have been in a sub-standard rental since plus paying monthly storage fees.

I also hung on for a vendor who couldn't find an onward purchase and then went silent. His Estate Agent advised me to look elsewhere. I then had a crazy chain free purchase collapse as I described earlier in this thread.

I found myself caught up in full and final bids on properties I didn’t even like, offering above my budget just because I felt desperate. I have had sleepless nights convinced I am going to end up trapped here in this tiny rental.

I finally found a house I love late last year. There have been several bumps in the road, including the vendor pulling out and then returning, but I am now meant to be completing on the purchase at the end of February so the end may be in sight. But there are still open enquiries and my vendor is quite difficult so I’m not 100% sure it will go through.

However as @siouxtse1 has said, I cannot control the actions of others. If it happens, it happens. I’m not really an expert on stress management but the only thing that has kept me sane over the past year is believing that everything happens for a reason and I will eventually get the house I’m meant to get. I have also taken up meditation, yoga and daily affirmations to try and control my anxiety.

Sending strength and wishing you luck!

J417 · 01/02/2022 16:49

@Eastie77Returns
I felt entirely the same
--->
I found myself caught up in full and final bids on properties I didn’t even like, offering above my budget just because I felt desperate. I have had sleepless nights convinced I am going to end up trapped here in this tiny rental.

What made me so angry with myself is I waited for my vendors for 2 months and all supply in my area disappeared!!!! and those exchanged and completed! I am so sad on being the stupid girl not offering on other complete chain property believing that something will come up and vendor could form a chain. I felt being lied too.

My vendor would have no problem releasing me and selling their house.

J417 · 01/02/2022 16:51

I am toying the area of buying a new build in another area

Given the properties prices going up so quickly , it really does not make sense as it might be more expensive buying a property that needs renovation