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Is a 3 bed flat in St Albans a bad idea?

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onlychildhamster · 26/11/2021 10:09

Firstly a lot of people on this thread are probably going to tell me to go for a house with garden rather than a flat? But I have always prioritized location and the houses in the areas I am interested in (Hampstead Garden Suburb, East Finchley, Muswell Hill and St Albans) are very expensive unless they are very small and as I am not a very outdoorsy kind of person, I need indoor space rather than outdoor space. Furthermore houses usually carry a premium which far exceeds the service charges (I currently own a 2 bed flat and the service charges are around £150 per month which I find ok; a house in my area the same size on the other hand would be 200k more)

I would like a third bedroom as a home office and hence I am in the market for a 3 bed. I really love London but i haven't found many nice 3 bed flats in my local area (east finchley/hampstead garden suburb) and Muswell hill is very expensive.

I found this lovely flat here: www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/115501745#/floorplan?activePlan=1&channel=RES_BUY

my DH is very fixed on being in zone 3 (and like me, doesn't mind flats) . But Muswell Hill is very buzzy and well connected to London so in a sense, even though I am a diehard londoner, I don't feel that bad moving there as I know that if I am willing to pay the transport costs, its quite easy to get back to London (judging from the number of times my DH has 'accidentally' ended up in St A when boarding a thameslink train from blackfriars!). For my first property, I did look at St Albans but it wasn't that much cheaper for a 2 bed flat as compared to London zone 3 + transport costs. However, it makes more sense when you look at bigger flats which carry a much higher price premium in London.

i mean this well, but please don't suggest I move to Hitchin/Bedford/cheaper location where I can get a house. It will take me an age to persuade DH about St Albans, never mind Bedford! When we bought our flat, DH wanted to live in zone 2, I managed to persuade him about zone 3 and that was an uphill task! While zone 4-6 would geographically be closer than St Albans, I find that St Albans has a more vibrant town scene and faster rail links to the city (the con is that the transport costs are higher); but overall feels more 'city-like'.

We don't have a car and don't plan to get one so we need a place that is walkable to the station. We are planning for a child in a few years, and where I come from, 95% of children grew up in flats and while I did have outside space, my father had extended the house to such an extent that we only had a patch of grass at the front so my DH doesn't even consider it a garden and it certainly isn't big enough to play in!

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MrsBobDylan · 01/12/2021 09:13

I've been having a think op.

Firstly, I think you will need one car once you have a child. At Albans has lots of amenities but you will want to go to other parts of Hertfordshire which will be a total pain in the arse without a car.

Also, commuting into central London is more difficult to manage - trains and childcare do not easily go together. You will need a nanny to do it without going demented.

I actually think these are the two big considerations, rather than the garden or location.

onlychildhamster · 01/12/2021 10:10

@MrsBobDylan thank you, then I suppose it is London for me. Goodness knows how all the Londoners who move to the Home Counties manage! I mean I know a lot of the women WFH or work locally or work part time (sorry to be sexist but it is usually women!) but would they really want to do that forever? A 30 year old woman has a good 30 years of working life assuming her kids are not disabled and require more attention , a lot can happen!

If it's London, I am more inclined to try to find something in my area near my MIL.

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missminimum · 01/12/2021 11:09

The commute into the city from St Albans is very straight forward and quick, as no tube involved. Canary Wharf is more challenging, my husband's office moved there a few years ago and it could take him 1.5 hours door to door. Not very family friendly but Essex/East London would be easier for your husband

onlychildhamster · 01/12/2021 11:38

@missminimum yes but we really like north london! and our family is up north too. Which was why St Albans didn't seem so bad as its only 3 railway stops from my MIL's place (admittedly she doesn't live very near the rail station, she lives closer to hendon central, but still...).

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getsanta · 01/12/2021 11:56

I live in St Albans (around the corner from that flat) and would never live anywhere else. I love it. If you don't yet have kids, you don't "need" a car. It's walkable you the station and all amenities. I would say that flats seem to come up for sale a lot in the building. Not sure why and not sure how quickly they sell.

But, the commute to Canary Warf is, in my option, brutal. I go to Liverpool Street station and even that is hard 5 days a week. If only a couple of days a week though, not a problem.

3totheright4totheleft · 05/12/2021 21:36

I live in St A and regularly do that journey to Hendon as I have an elderly relative there - it's very easy. If you don't already have kids I wouldn't worry about the schools. You would get into one of the central primaries and they are all good, and then you could move for secondary if you wanted (or you could hold your nerve like we did and get into the girls school which doesn't operate on catchment). I can't drive (though DH does) and I value being near to town very highly - managed swimming lessons/Brownies/drama club all without a car, when DD was younger. It depends on your lifestyle.

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