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MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 08:56

I will give lots of detail (name changed) for context. Apologies in advance for the essay.

DH and I currently live in the south east with 2 DDs (5 months and nearly 3). Bought this house in 2020 for £390k on a 5 year mortgage as a doer upper. We have almost finished everything we wanted to do at this stage, spent about £60k. Thanks to improvements and the rise in prices it is now worth around £450-475k. House prices are obviously quite high here (ours is a 3 bed semi) but there is no specific reason we need to live here - our jobs aren’t tied to this area.

We are thinking of moving at the end of this 5 year mortgage period (sept 2025). This would also coincide with DH finishing some training which would mean he is looking for a different type of work opportunity. Our DDs would be nearly 7 (starting year 2?) and 4.5 (starting reception).

Reasons for moving are mainly for a different lifestyle but also to enable us to have a bigger property without taking on more mortgage. We both grew up in semi rural areas - I was in the countryside near hills/forest/farms and DH near the coast. Neither of us feel “at home” in a very urban environment. It’s not so much that we want to be closer to walks/beaches etc - there is actually a fair amount of green space within a 30-60 minute drive of here - it’s more that we want to get away from the traffic and the proximity to London etc. We’d also like somewhere with more community feel, but it might be tricky to find what we are after - a mix of nice traditional British town/village but still forward-thinking, some cultural diversity, alternative scene (like a kind of Brighton/Bristol vibe but without being a city?!).

We’d like a house big enough for family and friends to come and stay. Ideally 4 beds, so DDs can have a room each plus a spare. Plus a home office somewhere. Decent garden space. Nice kitchen/diner. Basically one step up from what we currently have now. Ideally this next house would be our “forever home” where we’d raise our girls and not have to think about moving again until they’d flown the nest and/or we are retiring.

If we tried to buy this house in one of the local more rural villages (Berkshire/North Hampshire) it would be about £800k which is just not in our budget. For complicated reasons we have peaked quite early in terms of our earning potentials and combined we wouldn’t expect to be earning substantially more than we are now for at least ten years (due to DH training and then I might also make a sideways move). So we need a cheaper area really. Ideally we would actually reduce our mortgage hence wanting to move at the end of the mortgage period so max. £400-450k budget ideally.

However we do need to be easy distance to universities for my job and to hospitals/universities for DH’s job. So that rules out very rural areas as we don’t want to take on massive commutes. We have family ties to Southampton/Bournemouth areas, Surrey and Herefordshire all of which seems to imply that we should find somewhere else in the south but we need to get away from London. So maybe SW (outskirts of exeter? Somerset?) or perhaps South Wales (look for jobs in Cardiff/Swansea?). But I also want to explore the option of Scotland, as Glasgow and Edinburgh have good rail and air links to the south but I just don’t know enough about the areas.

Well done if you got this far. Happy bank holiday!

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umberellaonesie · 30/08/2021 18:52

Lanarkshire in Scotland would tick your boxes but not to crunchy. Dumfries and Galloway is quite crunchy in spots. Has a bid in for city of cultural with other border areas
Highland has crunchy spots too and a developing uni.

TheCarrs · 30/08/2021 18:55

@MovingSchmoving

So it’s not a poly/redbrick thing it’s a size thing really. Eg Nottingham Trent, Leeds Met etc would be fine

@MovingSchmoving Leeds Beckett hasn't been Leeds Met for a while...😉

Spindelina · 30/08/2021 19:00

Cardiff might well suit, if you'd be happy with somewhere bigger (but not huge). Canton would be where I'd start looking on that budget.

ILoveAnOwl · 30/08/2021 19:02

Stroud? Near enough to Gloucester/Bristol for universities and a Brighton - ish vibe but not too far from Somerset coast and getting back to Herefordshire?

ILoveAnOwl · 30/08/2021 19:03

Sorry, hadn't RTFT... But Stroud is great!

QueenHofScotland · 30/08/2021 19:12

I’m not overly familiar with the East of Scotland but thinking about the West…

There are several hospitals and Universities in Glasgow. Commuting wise 30-45 mins away you could consider some villages - Bridge of Weir, Houston, Kilmacolm.

Bridge of Weir / Houston are catchment for Gryffe High which I think was number 2 this year. Kilmacolm is a gorgeous village - it is nicer than the other two but not in the Gryffe catchment, but has its own private school. It has cafes, a couple of restaurants, wine bar, library, parks.

There is also the South Side of Glasgow and the West End. I still think they have a City feel to them though.

There is also Milngavie / Bearsden.

Henlie · 30/08/2021 19:13

I think Lewes, East Sussex might suit you. It’s a short drive to University of Sussex too. The only sticking point might be your budget.....but worth looking at.

MissyB1 · 30/08/2021 19:20

Stroud is totally doable, why are you ruling it out? Bristol and Bath are not far away at all.

AvocadoPlant · 30/08/2021 19:29

Third mention for Frome

OakPine · 30/08/2021 20:38

Edinburgh ticks all your boxes for "crunchiness". If you are a cycling, veggie, Montessori family you will fit right in. However, house prices here are high, with very low numbers of 4+ bed family homes available.
Look on ESPC website but remember that Scotland is offers over, and in Edinburgh that could mean 10, 20, 30% !! over. Anecdotally, recently there have been 20+ good offers for one house due to lack of supply :(
For the crunchy factor, you'd really have to be in the city or in a small number of desirable areas, and I'm afraid your budget is low for there.
Who knows what might happen in 4 years though.

Transport links are good to London, but most people who "commute" to London do it weekly and live in London during the week.

Also, another factor is the weather. Anecdotally, lots of friends who came from the south find it unpleasantly cold here.
Good luck!

squareofthehypotepotenuse · 30/08/2021 21:26

In Scotland, you could look at NE Fife - universities of St Andrews, Abertay and Dundee. Crail, Newport-on-Tay, Wormit even Broughty Ferry all quite “crunchy” and definitely no UKIP. Your budget would just about get you into St Andrews itself, but limited.

MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 22:52

Thanks for all the ideas, I’m starting to look through each of the places mentioned. It’s exciting even though it is 3+ years away! 😂

Can’t find who asked it but yes although Scotland is clearly quite far from Southampton there are at least air links as well as rail and road. It’s possibly more convenient than places that are much closer but are tricky to get to via car or train. Aberystwyth is a good example - although it’s not too bad from Herefordshire it is a good 5-6 hours from Southampton or Surrey and the trains are a nightmare. Edinburgh would be easier (and cheaper it seems!)

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APurpleSquirrel · 30/08/2021 23:15

You could look along the M5 corridor in Somerset - large hospitals in Exeter, Taunton & Bristol; unis in Exeter & Bristol. Transport links by road & rail. Only 2hrs or so from many of places mentioned (Southampton, Herefordshire etc). Close to coasts (between 30mins to an hour), moors etc & depending on your choice of town/village you should be able to find lots of independent shops dotted about.
I'm on the Devon/Somerset border & we've spent the summer holidays on day trips to beaches in North Devon & Dorset; zoos, farm parks; cinema; aquarium; various other local attractions. Tomorrow we're offer to the theatre in Bristol so we can access culture too.
Schools are good around us - lots of outdoor provision, forest school etc.

ExConstance · 31/08/2021 10:34

It feels to us Stroudies that the whole of London has moved here already! Seriously there is a bit of a backlash against the influx at the moment and locals are being priced out of the housing market. There is a really good train service to London but if you want to Go to Bristol and Bath it is a 20 minute drive to Cam and Dursley station, where parking is free.

MovingSchmoving · 31/08/2021 13:49

@ExConstance would I be allowed to move to Stroud if I’m not from London?! 😉

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ExConstance · 31/08/2021 15:27

Of course! It is lovely in many ways but there is a huge drugs problem - public toilets were closed for ages as full of drug users and their discarded equipment. There is also a lot of vandalism - 12 cars vandalised in one area over the weekend. Very good schools and lovely countryside too.

MovingSchmoving · 31/08/2021 21:19

@ExConstance this is sometimes my reservation about “crunchy”/alternative areas. I really don’t want to live somewhere with a lot of drugs issues, I appreciate that there are various factors at play but it’s one of the things I really want to avoid. Thanks for the insight as I wasn’t aware of this about Stroud. To be honest that would probably rule it out for me. Sounds dramatic I know!

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