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MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 08:56

I will give lots of detail (name changed) for context. Apologies in advance for the essay.

DH and I currently live in the south east with 2 DDs (5 months and nearly 3). Bought this house in 2020 for £390k on a 5 year mortgage as a doer upper. We have almost finished everything we wanted to do at this stage, spent about £60k. Thanks to improvements and the rise in prices it is now worth around £450-475k. House prices are obviously quite high here (ours is a 3 bed semi) but there is no specific reason we need to live here - our jobs aren’t tied to this area.

We are thinking of moving at the end of this 5 year mortgage period (sept 2025). This would also coincide with DH finishing some training which would mean he is looking for a different type of work opportunity. Our DDs would be nearly 7 (starting year 2?) and 4.5 (starting reception).

Reasons for moving are mainly for a different lifestyle but also to enable us to have a bigger property without taking on more mortgage. We both grew up in semi rural areas - I was in the countryside near hills/forest/farms and DH near the coast. Neither of us feel “at home” in a very urban environment. It’s not so much that we want to be closer to walks/beaches etc - there is actually a fair amount of green space within a 30-60 minute drive of here - it’s more that we want to get away from the traffic and the proximity to London etc. We’d also like somewhere with more community feel, but it might be tricky to find what we are after - a mix of nice traditional British town/village but still forward-thinking, some cultural diversity, alternative scene (like a kind of Brighton/Bristol vibe but without being a city?!).

We’d like a house big enough for family and friends to come and stay. Ideally 4 beds, so DDs can have a room each plus a spare. Plus a home office somewhere. Decent garden space. Nice kitchen/diner. Basically one step up from what we currently have now. Ideally this next house would be our “forever home” where we’d raise our girls and not have to think about moving again until they’d flown the nest and/or we are retiring.

If we tried to buy this house in one of the local more rural villages (Berkshire/North Hampshire) it would be about £800k which is just not in our budget. For complicated reasons we have peaked quite early in terms of our earning potentials and combined we wouldn’t expect to be earning substantially more than we are now for at least ten years (due to DH training and then I might also make a sideways move). So we need a cheaper area really. Ideally we would actually reduce our mortgage hence wanting to move at the end of the mortgage period so max. £400-450k budget ideally.

However we do need to be easy distance to universities for my job and to hospitals/universities for DH’s job. So that rules out very rural areas as we don’t want to take on massive commutes. We have family ties to Southampton/Bournemouth areas, Surrey and Herefordshire all of which seems to imply that we should find somewhere else in the south but we need to get away from London. So maybe SW (outskirts of exeter? Somerset?) or perhaps South Wales (look for jobs in Cardiff/Swansea?). But I also want to explore the option of Scotland, as Glasgow and Edinburgh have good rail and air links to the south but I just don’t know enough about the areas.

Well done if you got this far. Happy bank holiday!

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Tish008 · 30/08/2021 10:43

Knaresborough / Harrogate

IMetABoyCrazyForTea · 30/08/2021 10:46

Consider south west Sheffield - city with lots of trees and green spaces, right next to the Peak District National Park, generally lefty, two universities and two big hospitals, lots of areas have good local communities. Also train links to other cities.

House prices vary hugely depending on school catchments, so check the primary and secondary catchments carefully. Sheffield uses a defined catchment system rather than distance.

S7, S10 and S17 are generally considered the best postcodes to look in, but there are popular areas in other postcodes too.

Also look school turnover/ spare places, as you'll be looking for places in two different year groups, and would be better to get both children into the same school. If your kids were in different schools at first could you manage this logistically?

NHS4Life · 30/08/2021 11:29

One of my best friends lives on the edge of Southampton, right near the new forest: I was blown away by how lovely it is there and if I could leave london for there, I would!

moohoop · 30/08/2021 11:47

Malvern?

Worcester uni and hospital, easy train into Birmingham, Hereford Hospital plus all the community hospitals.

moohoop · 30/08/2021 11:48

The Herefordshire border runs over the Malvern hills.

As well as Malvern- Ledbury is a lovely little town.

moohoop · 30/08/2021 11:50

Also when you rule out Stroud for not having unis nearby- University of Gloucestershire? Or are you meaning ones that aren't old polytechnics?

Cos Stroud is lovely.

BikeRunSki · 30/08/2021 12:04

@IMetABoyCrazyForTea

Consider south west Sheffield - city with lots of trees and green spaces, right next to the Peak District National Park, generally lefty, two universities and two big hospitals, lots of areas have good local communities. Also train links to other cities.

House prices vary hugely depending on school catchments, so check the primary and secondary catchments carefully. Sheffield uses a defined catchment system rather than distance.

S7, S10 and S17 are generally considered the best postcodes to look in, but there are popular areas in other postcodes too.

Also look school turnover/ spare places, as you'll be looking for places in two different year groups, and would be better to get both children into the same school. If your kids were in different schools at first could you manage this logistically?

I’ll add S11 to that list too. Hunter’s Bar, Ecclesall Rd, Endcliffe Park area. SW Sheffield is fabulous, nudging into the Hope Valley Peak District. I think you’ll find your tribe around Hope, but house prices are substantial and it’s very busy on weekends and holidays.
exexpat · 30/08/2021 12:07

Frome? Has the sort of vibe it sounds like you are looking for, striking distance to Bath and Bristol (both with universities and big hospitals), has a station etc.

MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 13:00

@NHS4Life that area around the new forest is indeed lovely but house prices are crazy unfortunately! Couldn’t afford what we want.

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MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 13:01

@moohoop most large unis would be fine but smaller ones like Gloucester don’t have the specialism that I teach and/or have very few opportunities come up. I’d need to join a reasonably large department due to the nature of my experience.

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Usernamenotavailabletryanother · 30/08/2021 13:02

Second Frome

MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 13:02

So it’s not a poly/redbrick thing it’s a size thing really. Eg Nottingham Trent, Leeds Met etc would be fine

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MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 13:03

Lots of good ideas for me to look at thank you.
Anyone with any knowledge of suitable areas in Wales or Scotland please?

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GreenestValley · 30/08/2021 13:22

@bunnybuggs
Vibrant and culturally diverse, Hertfordshire is not.

Op - I find that once outside London, in the commuter belt / Home Counties, everything becomes extremely bland. Prosperous and comfortable but not culturally edgy or interesting. It’s almost like all the quirkiness gets sucked into London. I say this having grown up in Hertfordshire & Surrey.

Then when you get out a bit further, out of the orbit of London, you get more quirky, characterful, independent etc. The south west sounds like it would suit you - Bristol, Frome, Hay on Wye. Or parts of Suffolk as others have said.

GreenestValley · 30/08/2021 13:25

@MovingSchmoving

Lots of good ideas for me to look at thank you. Anyone with any knowledge of suitable areas in Wales or Scotland please?
Aberystwyth? Remote but nice. Powys is nice too.
MovingSchmoving · 30/08/2021 13:32

@GreenestValley that’s exactly it. We are currently living in commuter belt central and we don’t like it because a) it feels like we are paying a (commuting) premium to live here when we don’t actually need to be anywhere near London and b) it’s just very meh. Lots of people live here out of convenience and because they want/need to live in London but can’t afford it. Nobody loves living here. Lots of the young “professional” families that we meet say stuff like “oh yeah we moved here for my/my DHs job but in a few years we’re hoping to move back to Devon/Norfolk/Kent/etc” or wherever they grew up. Kind of what we are hoping to do 😂

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GreenestValley · 30/08/2021 13:35

[quote MovingSchmoving]@GreenestValley that’s exactly it. We are currently living in commuter belt central and we don’t like it because a) it feels like we are paying a (commuting) premium to live here when we don’t actually need to be anywhere near London and b) it’s just very meh. Lots of people live here out of convenience and because they want/need to live in London but can’t afford it. Nobody loves living here. Lots of the young “professional” families that we meet say stuff like “oh yeah we moved here for my/my DHs job but in a few years we’re hoping to move back to Devon/Norfolk/Kent/etc” or wherever they grew up. Kind of what we are hoping to do 😂[/quote]
Yeah - I totally get it. I’m in London and actually happy to live further out in terms of distance, but reluctant to surrender to the comfortable blah-ness of it all (and it’s still expensive!)

South coast is an option too. Folkestone / Hastings (gets a bad rap here but I love St Leonard’s)

Fancyfencepost · 30/08/2021 13:42

Dunbar might fit your bill. On the East coast Mainline for London and Edinburgh. Have a choice of universities and Edinburgh university has a base at the royal infirmary. Not much for sale just now, prices have risen a bit look on the Espc for stats. From what you have said commuter towns are out but have a look at Linlithgow, nice high street, the palace etc but 450 might not buy much. Nothing on the market just now.

RandomMess · 30/08/2021 15:11

If you want to be able to get to Southampton Scotland and several parts of Wales are a long way!

Bimblybomeyelash · 30/08/2021 17:45

You sound Stroudy-like to me. I know people who commute from there to Bristol by train. Trains go from nearby Cam-Dursley to Bristol. Otherwise it’s change at Swindon.

Magstermay · 30/08/2021 18:34

You will need to be living wherever you want to be by Jan before your youngest starts school in order to apply for places or you may be very restricted/ have to move part way through a year if you don’t get a decent school.

Magstermay · 30/08/2021 18:34

What about Stratford?

Unihorn · 30/08/2021 18:42

Cardiff is too small a city to really be considered a city so would probably fit your desire to not be in a "city." Swansea is probably a bit too much further away to be accessible. There's not much more diversity in the south.

lljkk · 30/08/2021 18:44

we do need to be easy distance to universities for my job and to hospitals/universities for DH’s job

What is "easy distance"?
People live in North Norfolk & commute daily to London (yes really).
North Norfolk is out due to UKIP repellant, anyway.
But you see what I mean by needing clarity on what is "easy distance." Do you only think about driving distance or does public transport matter?

Unihorn · 30/08/2021 18:50

Specifically in Cardiff, you'd probably like Penarth for the Brighton vibes, but you'd need a bigger budget for a 4 bed with the extras you want.

North Cardiff would likely be in your budget (although 4 years can change everything pricewise of course) but the houses are mostly boxy new builds for that price. The further out of Cardiff you are, the less diverse it would be.