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HMO neighbours

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Somebodyimportant1 · 07/08/2021 21:08

I'm I being a kill joy/grumpy person or what? Live on a very quiet cal de sac with 8 houses of mostly elderly people. My family were the youngest until my nice neighbour decided to sell. House was bought and converted to HMO. I only saw the letter from council after house was refurb was done and tenant living in 🤦🏽‍♀️ so too late to object which I would have if I had seen letter when it was sent (letter was buried amongst some other letters during lockdown etc).
Now tonight at this time at 9:03pm , the tenant in HMO are still in garden playing music making noise and I am really getting irritated now. It does not happen everyday but this is about the 3rd time this summer(not a lot but still) perhaps this might not be out of place if this was not a vey quiet street.
I mean it's past 9pm and this noise surely is not acceptable- I feel like texting the property owner to report this and wondering of there is anything else I can do maybe call the police but I don't wanna come across as a kill joy or maybe I am just too sensitive to noise but it is loud. What do I do? Can I get council to revoke the HMO licence? 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

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NiceTwin · 08/08/2021 15:22

We had a HMO next to us.
Everything was fine until Ramadan came round. When it was time to break their fast, they would go out the house, slamming the door behind them - all 4 of them at about 5 minute intervals- then into their cars where revving loud and hard was the way.
3 hours later, it was the reverse, slamming their way into the house.

I now live in the middle of a field Grin, we did two Ramadan and sold up, the lack of sleep was close to pushing me over the edge.

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Somebodyimportant1 · 08/08/2021 15:22

@ThreeWitches I mean not on an extremely quiet street like this one there are lots of other streets around which are not a dead quiet like this one trust there other places the noise they were making last night wouldn't be out of place at all.

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Suzi888 · 08/08/2021 15:24

@ApolloandDaphne I’m actually a housing manager and perhaps you are lucky where you live. But I can assure you HMO’s here are inhabited predominantly by drug users and much worse. Not all of them, but the vast majority.
OP perhaps speak to the occupants if you can? At least about the swearing, they may be more considerate if they know there are children next door.

NiceTwin · 08/08/2021 15:25

I should say, apart from that, they were great neighbours and we got on really well. I did mention the banging and slamming but they said it was just habit. They always slammed the door like that, it was amplified because it was so quiet at 1-2am in the morning.

I just couldn't live dreading Ramadan coming round.

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Somebodyimportant1 · 08/08/2021 15:46

@ApolloandDaphne thanks I would not go there to tell them but I will text the landlord and tell her about it but I will surely be calling council tomorrow or as soon as I can.

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DogsSausages · 08/08/2021 15:47

I think you have been spoilt by living in a quiet cul de sac, 9pm to have a bit of music in the garden is perfectly fine. What noise do your children make, what will you do if they want to sit out in the garden with their friends listening to music when they are older. Those elderly neighbours of yours will move in the future and all sorts of people will be moving in.

MurielSpriggs · 08/08/2021 15:53

Being consulted on planning applications is not the same thing as being given a veto to keep out the riff-raff!

It's highly unlikely that any objection would have made any difference. Objections must be for the very limited category of "valid planning reasons". Writing back that "this is a nice quiet polite street" is not a valid objection!

MurielSpriggs · 08/08/2021 15:55

(Perhaps if you only want to live surrounded by elderly people indefinitely, consider sheltered accommodation Grin)

ImprobablePuffin · 08/08/2021 16:02

So you could have objected but you didn't bother sorting your post and now you want to complain because you heard a swear word and you're upset because it wasn't deathly quiet at 9pm. Jesus.

ImprobablePuffin · 08/08/2021 16:04

[quote Somebodyimportant1]@ApolloandDaphne thanks I would not go there to tell them but I will text the landlord and tell her about it but I will surely be calling council tomorrow or as soon as I can.[/quote]
But what are you going to say to the council? What have you actually got to complain about?

ApolloandDaphne · 08/08/2021 16:07

[quote Somebodyimportant1]@ApolloandDaphne thanks I would not go there to tell them but I will text the landlord and tell her about it but I will surely be calling council tomorrow or as soon as I can.[/quote]
@Somebodyimportant1 I never suggested you should report them. I think you have mistaken my post for someone else's.

eightlivesdown · 08/08/2021 16:10

They always slammed the door like that .... said it was just habit ...

This is my experience living below a flat share, they slam the door when coming in / out. Otherwise, they are quiet, just ordinary people living ordinary lives who are sharing accommodation as it fits their current circumstances. I expect it would be exactly the same if it was a single family owning or renting the flat.

OP has grown used to living in a very quiet street with elderly neighbours, but would the noise level be any different if the house was occupied by a young family rather than being an HMO?

GintyMcGinty · 08/08/2021 16:15

9pm on a Saturday night is not unreasonable and as it's only the 3rd time this summer it's not like it's a regular occurrence.

Herbie0987 · 08/08/2021 16:15

First of all talk to the neighbour.
If that goes nowhere then contact the council, you are coming across as a bit precious.

MrsFin · 08/08/2021 16:28

I don't think late night garden noises are anything to do with the house being an HMO. It could happen with any neighbour.

KnobJockey · 08/08/2021 16:38

Yes you are being a killjoy. You won't get anywhere at all with the council, at best your landlord may send a text asking them to be quiet, but at 9pm, you'll be lucky to get that. You also stand no chance with the HMO license.

I suspect you're in for a shock in the next few years, if you currently have a lot of elderly neighbours- the peace and quiet will only last as long as they all do and young families are on their way 😁

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Somebodyimportant1 · 08/08/2021 16:43

@DogsSausages yes you can say we a spoilt on this street and my kids don't make noise even when the old neighbour sold to the owners of this current HMO she told me she let them know when they came to view the property b4 purchase that their are children next door/house (which is my house) but they do not make noise. I also recall she came knocking on my door on 2 different occasions to check that we were ok because she knew it was the holidays and she didn't hear anything from our house and neighbour on the other side came to our house to look through the closed window and I was seated by the window and opened to ask if all was well and he said he was only checking because he was wondering if we were away. People might find that strange but my kids don't make noise and when they are in garden playing, I always tell them to be quiet because I know it's a quiet street. I know it might be strange that I have 2 kids that don't make noise but that is what it is- my kids don't make noise. We are always occupied reading (they love reading, art & craft, playing games, writing- my 9 yr old son spend a lot of time writing his comic magazines) & myself and partner obvious don't make noise so 🤷🏽‍♀️ I wouldn't from others what I can not do.

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ShortBacknSides · 08/08/2021 16:57

so too late to object which I would have if I had seen letter when it was sent (letter was buried amongst some other letters during lockdown etc)

Huh? So you received a letter about the conversion, but didn't open it??

DogsSausages · 08/08/2021 17:13

It's a quiet street but that does not mean no one else can sit in their garden, listen to music, be out late, I would not be happy for my neighbour to be telling prospective new buyers that there are children living next door. You might like the quiet and the neighours at the moment but the area will change when new people move in, it is not a private village. It doesnt really matter that your children are not allowed to make any noise.

readytosell · 08/08/2021 21:07

I thought I'd seen it all on MN but it still keeps throwing up surprises.

No you don't have any right to expect a quiet street 24/7. That is completely ridiculous. As for complaining to the council, I can just imagine their massive eye roll already!

Jasmine11 · 09/08/2021 09:35

This is so strange - I think the council are just going to tell you to get a grip! Even if you had objected to the house becoming an HMO, on what grounds would you have done so?

notapizzaeater · 09/08/2021 09:40

9pm on a Saturday isn't taking the piss tbh. The council will laugh at you !

Lumpwoody · 09/08/2021 09:46

Good luck complaining to the council

You’ll get nowhere.

They aren’t doing anything wrong in their gardens at 9pm and if you complain about them swearing on their own garden because you’ve got young children you’ll get nowhere.

nonotmenotI · 09/08/2021 09:55

You need a house in the middle of nowhere for complete silence.

Phone the council and the landlord. They won't do anything because the tenant isn't doing anything wrong.

cansu · 09/08/2021 10:07

You have become used to something that isn't normal. I understand because we live in a quiet place with v quiet neighbours. I think this is something you are going to have to live with or move. I would be careful about complaining as it is unlikely to change anything and could also mean you wou would have to declare a dispute if you decide to move. The noise you are describing is nowhere near enough to have anything done about it. It would be considered normal. You also will get nowhere with moaning your child heard some swearing!