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HMO neighbours

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Somebodyimportant1 · 07/08/2021 21:08

I'm I being a kill joy/grumpy person or what? Live on a very quiet cal de sac with 8 houses of mostly elderly people. My family were the youngest until my nice neighbour decided to sell. House was bought and converted to HMO. I only saw the letter from council after house was refurb was done and tenant living in 🤦🏽‍♀️ so too late to object which I would have if I had seen letter when it was sent (letter was buried amongst some other letters during lockdown etc).
Now tonight at this time at 9:03pm , the tenant in HMO are still in garden playing music making noise and I am really getting irritated now. It does not happen everyday but this is about the 3rd time this summer(not a lot but still) perhaps this might not be out of place if this was not a vey quiet street.
I mean it's past 9pm and this noise surely is not acceptable- I feel like texting the property owner to report this and wondering of there is anything else I can do maybe call the police but I don't wanna come across as a kill joy or maybe I am just too sensitive to noise but it is loud. What do I do? Can I get council to revoke the HMO licence? 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

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ReginaaPhalange · 07/08/2021 21:13

There's nothing that can be done unless it's after 11pm.

LIZS · 07/08/2021 21:18

9pm on a weekend is not especially late or antisocial.

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Somebodyimportant1 · 07/08/2021 21:18

@ReginaaPhalange 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ oh my God.

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Somebodyimportant1 · 07/08/2021 21:21

Dear o dear I am truly screwed now ain't I? 🙄

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Andthenanothercupoftea · 07/08/2021 21:49

Keep a track every time it goes after 11pm.

I've just gone to bed (rock n roll) and our neighbours (6 people living in a 2 bed flat?!) have started the music (and the singing along)... Last time this happened (on a Tuesday) we went to stay with the in laws as the time before (a Wednesday!) they carried on until 1am...

IloveSooty424 · 07/08/2021 22:03

As an extremely noise sensitive person myself I feel your pain OP. I’m about to go to bed and the noise this time of night would really bother me too. I know it’s not 11pm but neighbours could have young children in bed trying to sleep and I think it’s extremely inconsiderate. As suggested, keep a diary of the noise and complain to the landlord if you have their details.

cherryadeisyummy · 07/08/2021 22:10

@LIZS

9pm on a weekend is not especially late or antisocial.
Exactly. NIMBYism at its finest.
Jasmine11 · 07/08/2021 22:12

3rd time this summer doesn't sound so terrible. Doesn't really matter that it's a HMO to be fair - an owner occupier could be a noisy nuisance neighbour too 🤷🏻‍♀️

user1471538283 · 07/08/2021 22:12

It doesn't have to be late to be classed as anti social. But if your council are anything like ours nothing will be done. You could try asking the landlord but again he might not be interested because he isnt living next to it. I would tell them to stop the noise.

I don't understand why hmos are in quiet residential streets. I doubt your council would revoke the licence.

cherryadeisyummy · 07/08/2021 22:13

@IloveSooty424

As an extremely noise sensitive person myself I feel your pain OP. I’m about to go to bed and the noise this time of night would really bother me too. I know it’s not 11pm but neighbours could have young children in bed trying to sleep and I think it’s extremely inconsiderate. As suggested, keep a diary of the noise and complain to the landlord if you have their details.
And people with young children screaming and yelling around all day long in the garden are just as irritating ffs.

If you don't want neighbours and normal neighbourly noise go and live in a field in the middle of nowhere.

IloveSooty424 · 07/08/2021 22:18

@cherryadeisyummy I would if I can afford it!

cherryadeisyummy · 07/08/2021 22:28

And so would many other people, myself included!

But I accept that living amongst neighbours means living with some levels of noise. And what the OP describes really is perfectly acceptable and normal.

I do get it, if you've lived in a quiet street for a long time and that is disturbed it's quite difficult to become used to the change. But that doesn't mean it should just be quiet forevermore. People are still allowed to enjoy their homes - even if it is a HMO.

memberofthewedding · 07/08/2021 22:57

Why do neighbours always think of snitching to the LL when the T has not done anything to violate their lease? 9 pm is not excessive and I doubt that violates their tenancy agreement.

When I first went into a private rental my LL warned me that the NDN was constantly snitching her previous tenants for things like mowing the lawn, children in garden, dog barking, etc. She expressed the view that as I was a single academic who worked at home I would not be making any noise that NDN could whine about.

How wrong she was. NDN just found other things to whinge about such that I would not open the door to her.

Eventually both the LL and I threatened the NDN with legal action for harassment. The LL moved and instructed me never to give NDN her new phone number.

lawofdistraction · 07/08/2021 23:40

The tenant is allowed to enjoy their garden at 9pm and you would be extremely unreasonable to contact the landlord.

mrsbyers · 07/08/2021 23:43

The negative connotations of an HMO are ridiculously biased , young people can’t afford to buy homes so a bedsit or shared accommodation allows them independence , student houses are HMO’s , nurse accommodation HMO

Playing music at 9pm is totally acceptable - move or buy earplugs if that happening three times over summer is so offensive to you princess

ThreeWitches · 07/08/2021 23:46

@lawofdistraction

The tenant is allowed to enjoy their garden at 9pm and you would be extremely unreasonable to contact the landlord.
This.

I mean, really? Are you that eager to text the landlord and snitch on people for doing nothing wrong.

Sad.

eightlivesdown · 08/08/2021 14:29

If the noise is occasional and not excessive, I wouldn't complain as some level of noise from neighbours is inevitable - children playing, mowing the lawn, etc.

Whether you should be concerned that the house is an HMO partly depends on the tenant profile, as they will behave like renters or house owners of a similar profile, e.g. if they are young professionals they are unlikely to be up late making noise as they have jobs to go to in the morning.

ApolloandDaphne · 08/08/2021 14:32

Three times over the summer they have been playing music at 9 pm and you want to complain? Get a grip. The house could have been bought by a a family who enjoyed drum and bass until 2am. Or had a child who played the drums or bagpipes. You should think yourself lucky that is all the noise this house is causing.

Suzi888 · 08/08/2021 14:36

No one wants to live next door to a HMO.
Most are full of addicts for one thing. There’s not much you can do OP, specially at 9pm. I’d consider moving!

ApolloandDaphne · 08/08/2021 14:40

@Suzi888

No one wants to live next door to a HMO. Most are full of addicts for one thing. There’s not much you can do OP, specially at 9pm. I’d consider moving!
That is something of a sweeping generalisation! Loads of young people live in HMOs. I would say very few are drug addicts! My DD lives in one now and is a professional young woman as are her house mates.
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Somebodyimportant1 · 08/08/2021 14:48

@Suzi888 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ I deeply regret not opening that letter on time although they all seems to be decent people from what I can see since they moved in but this street was alway quiet & I recall I was very surprised hearing a dog back a week after we moved in that I had to mention to my other half how very strange - just to give u an idea of how very quiet it is here normally. Also is so upsetting that I could hear someone swearing in their little garden party yesterday and I have 2 very young kids. I understand there might not be much Incan do but I will call the council tomorrow because I find it very hard to believe that my elderly neighbours were fine with all these or perhaps they didn't reply like me. I do know they renew the licence for HMO's every 5 years so maybe work towards that. Why should I have to move from my house that I love and it should be clear to the council the type of environment for HMO's. I am not saying HMO's are bad but noise is expected not should not be on a quiet street like this one

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Somebodyimportant1 · 08/08/2021 14:54

* sorry for the errors

I wanted to write
Noise should be expected from HMO's so it belongs to a certain type of environment not a quiet street like this one. It's very annoying

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ThreeWitches · 08/08/2021 14:55

@Somebodyimportant1

* sorry for the errors

I wanted to write
Noise should be expected from HMO's so it belongs to a certain type of environment not a quiet street like this one. It's very annoying

What type of environment would that be, then?
Bopahula · 08/08/2021 15:08

Oh dear. I was already thinking you were unreasonable but your last post definitely proves it.

You won't get people out of a HMO (or any house) for music at 9pm.

ApolloandDaphne · 08/08/2021 15:09

@Somebodyimportant1

* sorry for the errors

I wanted to write
Noise should be expected from HMO's so it belongs to a certain type of environment not a quiet street like this one. It's very annoying

I don't understand this at all. We have an HMO across the road from us. We live on an old estate in the country with only about 35 houses. The HMO caters for people who work in a nearby posh hotel. They are just ordinary people living there who need a room in a house to live in. People who live in HMOs are not an inferior species. They are often students and young working people who can't afford to buy a house or rent a whole place just for themselves.