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MummytoGeorgie · 24/05/2021 23:03

I'm on maternity and I miss my work!

I'm a property solicitor, if anyone has any questions I would be more than happy to give some free advice to do with conveyancing i.e moving home, enquiries, searches, title documentation etc (no landlord tenant as that's not my area of expertise).

TIA

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IamMaz · 25/05/2021 08:01

Wow! This is so good of you!
I don't have any that I can think of but expect you to be kept very busy from fellow Mums-netters.
I will follow with interest. Flowers

Subbaxeo · 25/05/2021 08:07

Wow, thank you! I have a question. We’re buying a house and the first in a chain of 3 properties. We were sent the report and transfer of title and contract to sign last week-we returned them last Wednesday. AIBU to wonder if we’re reasonably close to exchange?. I did email the solicitors to let them know we need 3 days notice to get funds into their account, but haven’t heard anything. I know solicitors are mad busy at the moment so don’t want to continually hassle-but they did ask us for dates to put forward? Our chain was complete on Mar 18 and our searches took 7 weeks to come back. Thank you!

MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 08:38

@IamMaz thank you 🤗

@Subbaxeo i understand it must be frustrating but your solicitor really should have updated you by now. It sounds like the upper chain might not be ready.. for example when I am acting I would get my contracts and all documentation signed by clients ASAP so that I am ready even if the chain are not. Most solicitors send contracts and final documentation to their clients right before exchange so it sounds like you are ready (subject to transfer of funds) but maybe your solicitor is waiting on the upper chain. Searches can indeed take a while at the moment due to everything with covid local authorities are delayed somewhat. If you returned them last Wednesday I'd start to get a bit ansy as I'd want to know what was going on.. I would suggest trying to get an update from your solicitor and if that fails, call the estate agent and ask them as to whether the chain are ready or when they anticipate them to be ready. Tell the agent you need time to draw down funds and you don't want to be in a position where everyone is ready and then suddenly they're waiting on you because you need to deal with transfer of funds. It's definitely time to get some answers! I hope that you manage to exchange and complete ASAP! Wishing you the best :-)

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Leigh8721 · 25/05/2021 09:29

Wow this is great thanks think your going to busy I have a question. We sold and purchased in Jan chain of 5 we are one from the top. 5 weeks ago the first time buyer first in chain pulled out week of exchange. The lady buying mine resold to cash buyer next day and we are now chain of 4. We are all packed and ready cash buyer wasn't able to buy local search and I have now been set a deadline of 2 weeks by my Vendor but we can never get any answers if this is possible. Since then my buyers mortgage requested a Structural survey which was done 3 weeks ago and we are still awaiting that to be approved any advice would be much appreciated.

MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 09:41

@Leigh8721 hey Leigh! I do wonder why the cash buyer was unable to buy the local search as they are valid for six months. Also, cash buyers do not have to have a local search undertaken, whilst it's advised to they can overlook this to speed things up as it's only a lenders requirement.

If the structural survey was undertaken three weeks ago I would definitely be chasing that up, I would speak to your selling agent to see if they can speak to your buyer directly and get them to chase their solicitor, does your buyer and the selling agent of your property know about the deadline that your seller has implemented? You may want to advise the agent so that they can put pressure on the chain below. It might be that they don't yet have the mortgage offer as they are waiting for the structural survey to be reviewed by the underwriting team for the lender before issuing it or they may have issued it already subject to a satisfactory structural survey but that will have to be obviously reviewed which can take time but three weeks is too long in my opinion.

Please bear in mind that some sellers to put deadlines on things and whilst you can do everything you can to try and meet that deadline some things are out of your control when waiting/relying on third-parties which is obviously frustrating but there is nothing that you can do about it apart from chase chase chase.

I would also have a conversation with the estate agents that you're buying through and ask them to reassure your sellers that you are very keen and want to proceed as soon as possible but again the bottom of the chain is not quite ready so you are unsure if the two weeks deadline will be feasible. Some sellers do say this and it can be an empty threat but obviously you need to know where you stand in relation to timescales.

Personally, I would ring the estate agents that you're selling through and tell them that you need a full update by the end of today as to when the bottom of the chain are likely to be in a position to proceed.

I assume that you have signed contracts on both your sale and purchase and received your final report for your purchase?

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Newhousehope · 25/05/2021 10:17

This is wonderful! And congratulations 🎊

In respect of the deadline post from Leigh - what can be done if the deadline isn’t met by them?

Also, my survey is being done today, but I’ve realised my buyer hasn’t instructed one on my house - or at least I haven’t been contacted for access. Would this mean she isn’t having one, or just not booked one yet? Are surveys a necessity or just piece of mind?

Evecob · 25/05/2021 10:18

This is amazing! Perhaps you can help with my issue as well?

Our chain were supposed to be exchanging and completing on the 28th but our purchase has rent charges on the title, it is only 3 years old, but the managemrnt company never started charging any money to the residents. The builder who set it up says he has no intention of doing so. The area is small with a shared private road (to enter the cul de sac) to maintain.

Our solicitor was unsure how to move forward but after a discussion with a colleague yesterday he said they needed to get the rent charge removed off the title. If the builder agrees he MAY be able to go ahead with exchange if solicitors are able to remove it themselves. If not he says it can be a long process to get the land registry to remove it.

My questions are,
A) can solicitors remove the rent charge off the title if builder allows, so we can move forward quickly?

B) can we not just get an indemnity insurance taken out to move forwards instead?

We just want to move forward to exchange!
Can you offer any advice?? TIA

Leigh8721 · 25/05/2021 10:24

HI thank you so much for the reply. Yes we have signed everything and fully ready. ~Our buyer has also signed to purchase and signed their mortgage offer. The works for the property from the survey come to £2000 and it is still ongoing review after 3 weeks. I will contact both agents now to see what is happening I do this every couple of days and never get anywhere. So frustrating

MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 10:25

@Newhousehope Thank you :-)) in relation to @Leigh8721 post regarding deadlines, if the deadline isn't met and the seller does pull out then they can do so. The ball is really in their court as nothing is legally binding until such time as exchange has taken place. Any party can pull out without any implications until this point.

Your buyer may not have had one booked yet. It's not a legal requirement to have a survey undertaken but solicitors will advise their clients to have one done. I'd check with your estate agent as to whether they are having one. The lender will also carry out a survey but due to covid, many are doing desktop valuations meaning they won't have to attend the property. I'd check 1) that they have their mortgage offer and 2) whether they will having a survey done (like you say you've had no contact for access) and if so, when?

Hope that helps! X

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ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 10:29

This is so kind of you!

We are moving in with family because we would lose our buyer. Does this affect our mortgage?

Also, we are all ready now just waiting for person at the top of the chain who is a conveyancer herself. The searches have come back. They are depserate to get it through by the end of June. My solicitor isnt very proactive I'm afraid!

ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 10:29

Sorry meant to say does this seem likely to you?

MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 10:41

@Evecob Hi Eve! Thanks for your message. I am surprised this has only just come up if you were due to exchange on 28th why has this not been dealt with right at the outset of the transaction. (That's what I would first ask your solicitor).

The person/company who has the benefit of
The rent charge can remove it at the land registry but it does take time and what with delays at the land reg at the moment I would expect it to take weeks if not months.

The rent charge will only need to be removed if your lender requires it. Even if the developer has advised that they are not going to collect the rent charge the law is that rent charges can be collected at any time and be backdated for example, if in 10 years time the person who benefits from the rent charge decides they want paying for it they can claim back from when the property was built so for you as a buyer it is risky and it may also make the pool of potential buyers smaller when you come to sell the property at a later stage.

Indemnity insurance could possibly be an option but I do not think an indemnity insurer would indemnify the rent charge with it being so new, they are usually happy to indemnify against historical rent charges that haven't been collected over many many years but again if your solicitor manages to find an insurer to indemnify the charge then they will just need to obtain your lenders consent to the indemnity policy, It really is down to the lender.

It is definitely a sticky situation but one that needs dealing with as a matter of urgency due to the possible timescales at the land registry so I would in the first instance ask your solicitor if they have referred the rent charge to Your lender and if so what is their stance, secondly is there indemnity insurance available from an insurer anyway?

If a developer agrees to remove the rent charge then your solicitor can do so with the appropriate signed documentation from them but as you are buying it would usually come from the sellers solicitors. The builder may need separate representation possibly and I would expect your solicitor to charge extra too for removal of the charge.

In order to facilitate exchange at this stage your solicitor may be able to get all the signed required documentation ASAP from the sellers solicitors and remove the rent charge at the same time as when they register you as the new owners at the land registry post completion to prevent any delay in exchange and completion but again this would need to be confirmed and agreed by your lender.

I do hope that you manage to get it sorted because rent charges can be headache and as you say, a lengthy process.

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MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 10:42

@Leigh8721 be on the agents case morning and afternoon, call them twice a day. Express the urgency of the upper chain and be firm with them. Good luck!

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MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 10:47

@ballsdeep Hey! I assume when you say you're moving in with family because you'll lose your buyer that you mean that you're breaking the chain completing on your sale ASAP and your purchase at a later stage? If so, that's fine and won't affect your offer but your solicitor may need to notify the lender of your new address if your current one (your sale) is noted on the mortgage offer. Other than that your mortgage offer will not be affected.

Good news that the searches are back at the top of the chain. I do hope that you manage to complete by the end of June of course. See if you can speak to your solicitor and advise that whilst you're breaking the chain and moving in with family it's not ideal and you really do need some timescale as to when the purchase will be able to exchange and complete. That being said she/he will probably likely say that there isn't any guarantee as nothing is legally binding until such time as you have exchanged et cetera et cetera but there is no harm in asking. You can also chase the agent regularly (daily or twice daily) to apply pressure to them for updates.

Good luck x

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MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 10:49

@ballsdeep in relation as to whether the end of June seems likely it really does depend as there isn't much information on what is awaited on your post for the upper chain. Try and see if you can get an update from the estate agents.

If the searches are back they will need to be reviewed, there possibly may be enquiries to raise off of the back of them, once all the enquiries are satisfied usually that is when the solicitor will prepare the final report and all contract documentation to send to the client for signing.

Really depends on how proactive the solicitor is.

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ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 10:52

[quote MummytoGeorgie]@ballsdeep Hey! I assume when you say you're moving in with family because you'll lose your buyer that you mean that you're breaking the chain completing on your sale ASAP and your purchase at a later stage? If so, that's fine and won't affect your offer but your solicitor may need to notify the lender of your new address if your current one (your sale) is noted on the mortgage offer. Other than that your mortgage offer will not be affected.

Good news that the searches are back at the top of the chain. I do hope that you manage to complete by the end of June of course. See if you can speak to your solicitor and advise that whilst you're breaking the chain and moving in with family it's not ideal and you really do need some timescale as to when the purchase will be able to exchange and complete. That being said she/he will probably likely say that there isn't any guarantee as nothing is legally binding until such time as you have exchanged et cetera et cetera but there is no harm in asking. You can also chase the agent regularly (daily or twice daily) to apply pressure to them for updates.

Good luck x [/quote]
Thank you!
Yes we are breaking the chain our end. Our chain has been a nightmare tbh with the "top" of the chain lying about a vacant property and now the top is the middle of the chain as we have another four people added onto our chain!

I am chasing all the time there is just no urgency !
We have arranged for removals and storage for Wednesday as my purchasers sols have said they'll be ready on Thursday
. When I rang my solicitor yesterday she said they'll be exchanging and completing on the same day! Argh!!

ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 10:55

[quote MummytoGeorgie]@ballsdeep in relation as to whether the end of June seems likely it really does depend as there isn't much information on what is awaited on your post for the upper chain. Try and see if you can get an update from the estate agents.

If the searches are back they will need to be reviewed, there possibly may be enquiries to raise off of the back of them, once all the enquiries are satisfied usually that is when the solicitor will prepare the final report and all contract documentation to send to the client for signing.

Really depends on how proactive the solicitor is.[/quote]
Because she is a conveyancer herself, she is doing it all she she's her own solicitor . The chain is so far up. My EA have been amazing and have been chasing and chasing but from what we know, we are just waiting for the top now and everyone else has signed Doc's etc and are ready to go.

ineedaholidayandwine · 25/05/2021 11:00

Thank you!

We're buying a house, the garden has a 'dog leg' bit at the far end, the plan document has come back with the legal boundary line going half way through it (tracking the line of a drainage channel), how big an issue is this? In the information document they ticked no to all the boundary questions.
We have asked our solicitor but obviously they now need to go back and ask the buyers solicitor so just wanted to get an idea what we're in for. See attached picture

Property solicitor
MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 11:00

@ballsdeep it's very hard when they want to do a simultaneous exchange and completion (same day) as usually people like to exchange with at least a week to completion so that they have some sort of guarantee that the completion is going ahead. The fact that you've broken the chain and are moving in with family it doesn't really affect you but this is usually refused if there is a chain and will need to be agreed by all parties below you.

Another thing, you are not allowed to act for yourself so I would be very very surprised if the conveyancer doesn't have someone else representing her.

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MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 11:03

@ineedaholidayandwine Don't worry about the dotted line representing drainage because by looking at the plan it doesn't even fall within the boundary of the property. Even if it was it's not an issue.. Or do you mean that the plan is incorrect and should include the dogleg part outside the red boundary?

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ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 11:05

[quote MummytoGeorgie]@ballsdeep it's very hard when they want to do a simultaneous exchange and completion (same day) as usually people like to exchange with at least a week to completion so that they have some sort of guarantee that the completion is going ahead. The fact that you've broken the chain and are moving in with family it doesn't really affect you but this is usually refused if there is a chain and will need to be agreed by all parties below you.

Another thing, you are not allowed to act for yourself so I would be very very surprised if the conveyancer doesn't have someone else representing her.

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There was only one below is, which was our purchaser. We are not the bottom of the chain (well, once completed!)
I would have preferred some notice tbh because we are packing up our whole house with no guarantee! But it'll be what it will be!

Oh no, the EA told us this. Maybe they meant it was someone in the same company?!

samosamo · 25/05/2021 11:10

Thank you!

Buying with partner.
If we have a deed of trust for tenants in common and the split is 70/30 say, what happens if the relationship ends?

MummytoGeorgie · 25/05/2021 11:11

@ballsdeep simultaneous exchange and completion is usually ok when there's only one below but yes, it's always nice to have some guarantee!! Especially when moving home but sometimes it is needed...

It may be someone within the same company as her yes, that is allowed :-)

Fingers crossed Wednesday goes ahead and your purchase goes through swiftly!! X

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ballsdeep · 25/05/2021 11:13

[quote MummytoGeorgie]@ballsdeep simultaneous exchange and completion is usually ok when there's only one below but yes, it's always nice to have some guarantee!! Especially when moving home but sometimes it is needed...

It may be someone within the same company as her yes, that is allowed :-)

Fingers crossed Wednesday goes ahead and your purchase goes through swiftly!! X[/quote]
Thank you for your help and good wishes! I'm keeping everything crossed!

ineedaholidayandwine · 25/05/2021 11:15

The dog leg is part of the garden, the fence goes along the edge of it, but our solicitor says the red line is the correct legal boundary so now we have to find out how the got the dog leg and my worry is what happens if it's not legal