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lizhandle · 22/01/2021 09:05

dh and i are currently looking to move house and are trying to find a nice area to move to. we've only lived in london for a couple of years so dont know all that many parts, but i have been really surprised that lots of areas that seem cool like in E/SE London are complete blackholes for schools or have really poor secondary schools...so what do people do? and i mean we have been priced out of lots of so-called cool areas anyway - but does everyone just leave the minute their kids come up to secondary? or will people stay and schools get increasingly better? had a quick look at large places such from Nunhead down to Sydenham etc seem to have very poor provisoins although people seem to be really selling them - but it's the same in ELondon too. any tips and ideas?

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goteam · 22/01/2021 22:59

@MojoMoon that's good to know. It seems like a perfectly decent school.

Katjolo · 23/01/2021 10:15

Trinity is a brilliant school (if you are practising Catholoc). Davenant school is also good. Wanstead High is also a good school.

I think that Wanstead is lovely. As is nearby areas such as Buckhurst Hill, Woodford Green, Epping etc.

As a PP said, Upminister and Emerson Park are also lovely.

Halle2021 · 21/08/2021 21:58

Evening. I am looking to buy in the norbury area in order to be within a catchment area for Woodmansterne school. Just wondered if anyone's child attends currently and if you would recommend the school. Personally the only things I know is the research I've done online. Also from what I see catchment area in 2019 was some 0.54 miles ? How would I know what it was most recently? Thanks !

padsi1975 · 31/08/2021 13:29

@HouseyHouse21

I suppose we fit the stereotype - DS1 is in year 5 and we're in the process of moving to be in the catchment of a very sought-after outstanding state secondary, with a good back-up (also outstanding), just in case.

We were aiming for a 0.2 mile radius and still had a few options, with a budget of only slightly higher than yours. Sure, none of them were our dream house but the plan is to get both DCs settled at secondary and then review.

Hi HouseyHouse21, do you mind saying where you moved to? Being in catchment for two outstanding state secondary schools sounds amazing. Thanks.
AlistairAppletonsSexyScarf · 31/08/2021 13:43

I really can't bear this MN approach of 'everyone' leaving and there being no 'community' in London. Thousands upon thousands of kids go to state secondaries in London; quite a lot of them end up at university/in well paid jobs/not in gangs. It's just unbearably elitist thinking. I've seen people say there are 'no schools' in their area. It makes me so angry.

I live in SE London. There is one secondary I wouldn't want my kids to go to, because the gangs are out of control there, and it's never full, and everyone knows how awful it is. Genuinely it should just close, as the problem just isn't getting any better.

Other than that, I would consider sending my children to pretty much every other secondary in the area, depending on their needs. I don't much like some of the Harris schools from what I've seen of them because of their ethos, but it can be avoided, and it's not the end of the world.

In the time I've lived in my area (well over 20 years) I've seen the expectations and curriculum in some schools expand as the intake has become more middle class. I've seen schools be more explicit about countering gang activity, and succeed. I've see free schools set up dedicated to educating the middle class children who can't get into existing 'acceptable' schools. I've seen parents send their kids to private schools that aren't particularly good and end up taking them out again and sending them to state providers instead.

I have local friends whose children have gone from 3-18 in local state provision, many of whom I count as my community, who just get on with it. The local excellent primaries had very few children moving away because of secondary, although I think that's accelerated since Covid and remote working. And let's not forget all the people who just sodding live in SE London, always have, or for whom our secondaries are fantastic opportunities for their children compared to where they have lived themselves in the past.

bettyfloormop · 31/08/2021 15:34

@AlistairAppletonsSexyScarf City Heights?

Sunnyfreezesushi · 31/08/2021 15:55

The “hip” areas thing is a bit of a con - lots of my creative family and friends did it at primary and then all suddenly moved out to Eg Oxford, Cambridge, now Places like Somerset (15 years ago it was Brighton). Places like Bromley now have more creative types too than they used to - for example, Chatterton village (bullerswood secondary catchment) or parts of beckenham (Langley catchment). Blackheath/Greenwich/dulwich - that is where my banker and solicitor friends live. If you don’t hate Finchley or Bromley transport and schools can be great.

AlistairAppletonsSexyScarf · 31/08/2021 16:17

@bettyfloormop Nope, that's not one of my locals.

SD25 · 01/09/2021 23:35

Desperate to know the gang school!

onlychildhamster · 01/09/2021 23:49

I live in Finchley and don't really get how its boring? I am a childless 28 year old who loves going out too!

I can walk to Muswell Hill for tapas and a drink (live on the East Finchley side) and Chinatown/Soho is a 20 minute tube ride away. i lived in Camden and Bloomsbury before and I think Finchley is a nice compromise- its not at the end of the line so you spend ages on the tube i.e. zone 5 and beyond and but there aren't the same problems with drugs/rowdy students (like in some place in z1).

BakingACake87 · 03/09/2021 16:06

I'm looking at areas I think are not cool and I still can't find a house with a bit of space and a garden, near some green space! Confused

earsup · 03/09/2021 22:41

A lot of people ditch walthamstow when they need secondary school, apparently the Girls school is good....if you move to wanstead in the redbridge borough part, you have access to 7 kings or ilford county high which people rave about...
As an ex teacher, i wouldnt pay too much attention to stats and ofsted etc..all can be manipulated...best to take a look and then decide.

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