Kitchen plan....any thoughts ?

[DangerCake]

We are getting an extension built. This is the suggested plan. The first tall cupboard is a freezer, the last in the run, nearer the sink, is the fridge.

Never had a kitchen from new before....

Argh. Sorry, don't know how I missed your floorplan!

whatisthislifesofullofcare

I might be wrong, but it looks like you'd have to take out 3 supporting walls in your plan, which could be quite costly plus may need a pillar leaving in. Also moving the toilet to an inside wall is difficult without a stench pipe, plus the waste pipe plumbing.

Put sky lights in the kitchen at the snugg end to creat natural light

whatisthislifesofullofcare sorry, I see its only 2 supporting walls need removing, as you have left the snug wall in.

The dining room is the least used room in a house, It will be a passage to the garden. I would put kitchen that end, for the light & view
No sink in the middle. Nightmare
Fridge & freezer together. Not Under worktop, not big enough for me

@whatisthislifesofullofcare love what you've done there. OP this would be a much better use of space.

@Mix56 perhaps true of a separate dining room but definitely not a dining area attached to the kitchen. I have a similar space and we are in it all the time. Always eat at the dining table. Also used for home school for some of the children currently. I work at the dining table when WFH. Arts and craft projects happen here. Currently huge Main Coon cat sprawled across the table in a sunbeam. Our dining table is the heart of our home.

I do the same. ! its an open space. but I am always in the kitchen & prefer natural daylight & possibility of opening window/doors.

ps I want your cat !

we have a living kitchen and it really is the hub of the home, everything happens at the kitchen table.

I do agree a separate dining room is usually not used much though.

@whatisthislifesofullofcare love the user name. We priced up doing something similar to what you suggested and they are huge supporting walls.

Building a box of the back is much cheaper.

We've had a large extension done. It's so hard to know what's right. Get some spray paint and draw it on your grass. Including the kitchen layout etc. It helps.
When you start building, it feels small as it's dark and grey so you will panic at that stage. IMO you need to decide before hand.

Why do you need a lounge, family room and snug? That's a lot.

We purposely opened ours up so when we open our front door you see right through to our family room , through the bifolds. It's a real wow factor.

I don't like your layout and it feels unnecessarily cramped

I'd knock these rooms together. You could section a bit off somewhere for the utility room?

Sorry I've done this quickly hence the mess!

"Could you put a breakfast bar across the room to get in a better designed kitchen and more cabinets, but also get the effect of an island with stools and use if wasted space?"

Thats a good idea

I'd reconfigure it, if you want an island you need a wide room.

Could you do something like this?

Or like this and make the study a utility room (or put in door to the family room).

Do you really need two separate reception rooms (lounge and family room)?

Could you knock through the family room and have a much smaller extension, saving some outdoor space? I would put the dining table in the front end and have a peninsular our from the kitchen in the middle then seating/ sofa at the garden end.

3m is way too narrow for an island - it's less than 10 feet .The base units will take up 2 feet and the island likely another 3, so you only have almost 5 feet to divide up between 2 areas (between base units and island and between island and wall). It's far too small and I'd be wary about having any further involvement with a kitchen company that suggested that. I think you might need to re-design the room. A long narrow room will always be problematic. Can you not extend past the utility room so the room is narrow but opens up more and the house is squarer?

i.e. move the toilet window to the right hand side and extend kitchen where the current window would have looked out. I think you need to chance the plans for the extension to make the most of things.

This is what I mean with breakfast bar - then the blank wall can also be set with those tall units without counter top ( as that was what was in the original drawing) I’d rather more counter top and split cupboards but it’s personal choice

I have a sink in the island. I hate it. The whole space had basically been taken over and feels unpleasntlycramoedwhen cooking. Before that I had an island with nothing on and it was brilliant. Also Make sure you have doenlight under your top cabinets otherwise it will be very dark.

dangercake
would really recommend getting some other professional input.
even if you have to pay....compared to overall cost of kitchen it is worth getting it right

It’s the first plan we got. We want to get it right and if we can’t make the kitchen plan work we might have to rethink the whole extension.

We don’t want to extend to the right of the utility as that bit of the garden gets lovely sun all year round.

Dealing with the v dark snug is difficult.

The feedback on the island is v interesting. I wasn’t sure about the sink o the island and am wondering about a peninsula instead, you have more counter surface.

I wouldn’t go with that designer, it’s not great.
There’s massively not enough worktop space and the island doesn’t work.
I’d get a new company in altogether.