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AnnaCMumsnet · 13/09/2019 11:04

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BarStewards · 16/09/2019 16:40

What would be my chances of getting a neighbouring local authority to house me? I live on the edge of one area but my children go to the nearest schools which are in the neighbouring area. My youngest child is disabled and has an EHCP naming the school he is at, plus his medical care is all provided by the NHS in the neighbouring area due to our postcode.

I want to move from where we currently live (private rent) as we have to share a kitchen and bathroom which isn't ideal for a disabled child. But I really dont want to have to move further from school and the GP/hospital but being housed in the area I currently live in would mean I had to. It's a rural area so public transport is useless and the nearest hospital is already 20 miles away - the nearest social housing in my local authority area is 10 miles in the other direction!

BarStewards · 16/09/2019 16:41

(when I say share a kitchen and bathroom I mean with other non related tenants)

HelenaDove · 16/09/2019 17:25

Andy thank you very much for your detailed reply.

tenancywoes · 16/09/2019 19:03

@ohforgoodnessake Sorry, Andy, if I shouldn't reply here and hopefully you'll be able to give a more informed expert reply.

I'm wondering if you live in an area where just one or two agents have a monopoly over private rentals? I'd suggest looking to rent direct from a landlord. My area, rents haven't increased for months (I often check), but it's somewhere with loads of agents all competing with each other for landlord business.

ohforgoodnessake · 16/09/2019 20:44

Hi tenancywoes thank for responding. Thanks for your suggestion but sadly its all rents it seems, private and agents. Due to being screwed over by a private landlord a few tenancys ago, believe it or not I trust agents more now!

Be good if other folk could respond with what rents are like where they live - ta.

Siablue · 17/09/2019 07:45

Hi Andy I have recently left my husband due to domestic abuse. Before that I lived in a lovely house that we jointly own.

I am in the process of looking for somewhere to live. I was hoping to apply for universal credit but one of the questions is do you own a property? Will the fact that I own somewhere even though I can’t live in it affect my eligibility for benefits?

ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 11:52

@Dhalandchips

Hi, and thanks for this. I a nutshell, way is the landlord allowed to do when inspecting the property, and how often are they allowed to come? The back story... (long!) . I'm renting privately. The estate agent is used as a tenant finder by my Landlady, and she manages the property herself. She is so very peculiar. She wanted to make an addendum to the tenancy agreement allowing for monthly inspections but I never actually signed it. However, I thought I'd humour her and have agreed to her coming the 5 times she has requested since December 2018 when I moved in.

I've not had much bother from her but her visit in July was bizarre. She looked in my (fairly) clean oven and told me she wanted it cleaning. ("it makes it easier for me") Then went into the back garden and started tearing up plants shouting that they're weeds THEY'RE WEEDS!! I'm no percy thrower but I just saw them as pretty purple flowers that the bees love, so I've asked my gardener to work around them. I was in tears as she wantonly destroyed the worked the gardener had done. I told her to stop! "You're distressing me"!

After she left, I called the estate agent and cried down the phone at her! She said "that's just her, don't take it personally". It took me some time to calm down.

On Tuesday last week, LL messaged to say that she wanted to come on Thursday teatime to which I agreed. I was dreading it and feeIing stressed. I have children and I was doing normal Thursday teatime things. She came, had a look round and told me
the electrics needed fixing and the guys will be coming next week. Phew, I breathed a sigh of relief, she was calm and was fairly unobtrusive. Then I get an email telling me she wanted to come again in three weeks' time, when there are 'fewer people in the house', 'when it's less hectic'!!

What do you think she's actually looking for? I'm starting to feel harassed! Can I tell her not to come? I can't relax in my own home. Of cotse she holds all the cards, she can give me two months notice whenever she chooses, which will disrupt my family further. Property around here is notoriously expensive and difficult to find.

There is a long, fairly outing backstory but I really don't want to move again!

Where do I stand telling her to leave us alone? (the house is fine BTW! I'm looking after it!)

Hi @Dhalandchips,

Thank you for letting us know about your situation.

I’m sorry to hear about your landlord’s behaviour and how it has distressed you, and I can appreciate why you’re seeking clarification on what may or may not be considered reasonable.

It’s difficult to suggest a motive for your landlord’s actions and how frequently she wishes to inspect the property. Perhaps she has had bad experiences with tenants in the past, or possibly she is finding it difficult to accept that someone else is responsible for the day-to-day running property. Whatever the case is, there isn’t anything in law that would require your landlord to act like this.

Some of your rights will depend on your tenancy type. I’m assuming you have an assured shorthold tenancy, as this is the most common form of tenancy in the private sector when the landlord and tenant don’t live in the same property. If you believe you have a different tenancy type, please let me know in case it changes the advice.

Housing law doesn’t clearly specify what a landlord can or cannot do when it comes to inspections unless they’re directly relating to disrepair issues. In fact, your landlord does not have a right of access for purposes other than dealing with disrepair unless it’s something you’ve agreed on, and in this case much of what the landlord can or cannot do comes from your individual arrangement, usually outlined in your contract. It can also be agreed verbally between the parties.

It’s fairly common for landlords to request regular inspections, but usually these are at something like 6-month or yearly intervals rather than every month. You can agree something more frequent if you’re willing to do so, but it’s usually worth establishing the purpose of visits and what they will involve in advance if possible.

Regardless of what you arrange, your landlord should respect your right to treat the property as your home. All tenants have the right to live in their accommodation without being disturbed. They should be allowed to live there in peace without the landlord unnecessarily interfering with their day-to-day use of the property. This is known as the 'right of quiet enjoyment' and is an implied obligation, meaning that tenants have this right even if it's not in their contracts.

The right of quiet enjoyment can be open to some interpretation, and may also be influenced by personal preference. However, if you’re starting to feel harassed or worried that the landlord may have issues with how you’re maintaining the property even if you’re acting responsibly, it’s possible that you are not being allowed your right of quiet enjoyment.

As you’ve mentioned, situations like this may be difficult to resolve since assured shorthold tenants have relatively limited rights. They can usually be evicted quite easily even if they haven't done anything wrong using a section 21, which gives 2 months’ notice. For this reason it's often a good idea to try to keep things amicable, especially if you want to continue living there.

However, it’s worth bearing in mind that if you arranged a fixed-term tenancy, the landlord cannot use a section 21 to evict you until the end of the fixed term, unless there’s a ‘break clause’ in the agreement that would allow this. Additionally, the eviction process can take several months, and after any written notice expires the landlord must apply to court and follow the correct process.

At this point, it's worth continuing to try to resolve matters informally. The landlord may not be aware of how her actions are affecting you, and explaining that you feel her behaviour is somewhat intrusive, may help. Hopefully you’ll be able to come to an arrangement that works better for you.

If you feel it’s necessary, you could remind the landlord of your right of quiet enjoyment and that her actions could be impacting on this. You could also remind her that you didn’t sign the addendum to the contract allowing monthly inspections, and that allowing her into your home with greater frequency than what is mentioned in your contract is at your discretion.

It may be worth trying to get an impartial third party to informally mediate for you. The agency may be willing or able to do this, or if not if you have any mutual friends or acquaintances they might be able to help.

If these routes fail, you could contact your local council to see if they can help. Many councils have a tenancy relations officer (TRO) who can deal with issues arising between private landlords and tenants. A TRO may help mediate between both parties or help explain a tenant's rights to a landlord, either over the phone or in writing.

Alternatively, there are also professional mediation services you could try. These are likely to cost money, but may be an option if you’re unable to come to an arrangement by other means. You can find out more, and search for mediation services in your area, using the Civil Mediation Council website, here: civilmediation.org/for-the-public/about-mediation/

Hopefully these steps will be enough to resolve matters. However, if you do need any further advice about this, particularly if you are worried that your landlord may consider eviction, please do get back in touch.

Thanks again for your enquiry, and very best wishes to you and your family.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

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ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 12:29

@ohforgoodnessake

It's great that agents and landlords are now banned from charging fees - having moved several times in the last 4 years it makes a big difference.

BUT I'm looking around at properties available locally and the rents seemed to have shot up - do you know why? There's stuff available but rents are £50+ a month more in most cases and this seems to have happened recently. I asked an agent this q and they said landlords fees had increased so the rents had increased to compensate - really?

Any insight you can offer would help - shall I move to another area or is this the same everywhere? Many thanks.

Hi, @ohforgoodnessake.

Thanks for getting in touch.

I can certainly appreciate your concerns about this.

As far as I’m aware, there isn’t anything at the moment to suggest that increasing rents as a response to the recent Tenant Fees Act is a trend that’s occurring universally. This may be something that becomes clearer over time when more accurate information is available.

However, anecdotally there does seem to be an increase in rent from some landlords or agents, possibly to try to recoup income that was previously gained via fees that have now been banned.

As @tenancywoes has mentioned, this can often be affected by the area, demand for housing and market forces such as competition between landlords or agents.

It’s possible that this is the reason for the rents increasing in your area, but it could also be one or a few landlord/agents increasing the rent on their properties and others following suit. As there aren’t any legal caps on how much rent can be in the private sector, rent levels are usually set against market rents. These can be influenced by the availability and costs of similar properties in the area and the market may be very variable.

Whether to move to another area or remain where you are is, I’m afraid, something you’ll need to decide yourself. It’s quite possible that you’ll be able to find somewhere relatively nearby where rents are noticeably lower than where you are now, even if there has been an increase there too.

If it helps, you can also read general advice about looking for properties here: england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/private_renting/ways_to_find_a_private_rented_home

Whatever you decide to do, I hope you’re able to find somewhere that suits you soon. Take care, and very best wishes.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

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ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 12:40

@tenancywoes

Sorry, Andy, if I shouldn't reply here...

Hello @tenancywoes,

Thanks for your message. You certainly can reply here, and if you have anything more to add that can help please do so.

As you're probably aware, although legal advice is almost always constant across the country, looking for properties can be very variable. What may work well in Yorkshire might be unhelpful in London.

Often people sharing their own experiences is very useful in situations like this, and we welcome any and all involvement that could assist.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

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ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 13:03

@BarStewards

What would be my chances of getting a neighbouring local authority to house me? I live on the edge of one area but my children go to the nearest schools which are in the neighbouring area. My youngest child is disabled and has an EHCP naming the school he is at, plus his medical care is all provided by the NHS in the neighbouring area due to our postcode.

I want to move from where we currently live (private rent) as we have to share a kitchen and bathroom which isn't ideal for a disabled child. But I really dont want to have to move further from school and the GP/hospital but being housed in the area I currently live in would mean I had to. It's a rural area so public transport is useless and the nearest hospital is already 20 miles away - the nearest social housing in my local authority area is 10 miles in the other direction!

Hello @BarStewards,

Thank you for contacting us.

Your situation sounds very difficult for you all, and I can certainly see how your neighbouring authority being able to offer assistance could make a big difference.

Whether or not a neighbouring council will be able to provide housing for you will depend on what their own rules state.

Each council has their own policy, which explains who can go on their waiting list and the number of points or banding they should receive. This is known as an allocations policy. Your neighbouring council should be able to provide a copy on request, or you can usually find a copy on a council’s website. You can read our advice about allocations here: england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/council_housing_association/how_councils_allocate_housing

Most councils do have restrictions on applicants who don’t live in the council area, or who haven’t done so for a certain number of years. However, there are often exceptions to these rules when there’s a social care need, when a failure to consider an applicant could cause the applicant or a member of their household exceptional hardship, or when refusing an applicant could constitute discrimination.

The policy itself may define some of the specific circumstances to which exceptions could apply, or in other cases it may only suggest that “a housing officer will make a decision according to the situation”. In either case, it’s worth reading the policy in detail to see how it should apply to you.

If you feel that you may qualify for social housing in the neighbouring area, it’s also important to make sure you get as much evidence as possible to support your application. Councils don’t often accept an applicant’s own assessment of their circumstances. If you don’t already have this, it’s worth getting as much information as you can from anyone who has worked with your family, your youngest son particularly. His GP, any specialists who have helped him, occupational therapists and staff at his school could all potentially provide very useful information that could affect your application.

Another route you could consider into social housing in the neighbouring area is through a ‘nomination’ or a ‘cross-border’ bid. A nomination is where your own local authority refers you to the other local authority for consideration on their waiting list. A cross-border bid may be possible for those who are already on a council waiting list in their own area, and where there’s an arrangement with that council and another to allow applicants to bid on properties in the other council’s area.

Both of these options are likely to depend on what arrangements your own council has made with the neighbouring council. It’s worth contacting a member of the housing team to discuss this with them and see what options they’re able to offer.

I hope this information is useful, and helps to clarify what some of your options may be. If there’s anything else you need to know, please do get back in touch.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 13:05

@HelenaDove

Andy thank you very much for your detailed reply.

You're very welcome, @HelenaDove. If there's anything else we can do to help, please do get back in touch.

Best wishes,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 13:52

@Siablue

Hi Andy I have recently left my husband due to domestic abuse. Before that I lived in a lovely house that we jointly own.

I am in the process of looking for somewhere to live. I was hoping to apply for universal credit but one of the questions is do you own a property? Will the fact that I own somewhere even though I can’t live in it affect my eligibility for benefits?

Hello @Siablue,

Thank you for your enquiry.

I’m very sorry to hear about your experiences; it sounds like you have had a lot to deal with recently.

Owning a property can affect a claim for universal credit, but it depends on a number of factors, some of which are discretionary on the part of the DWP when assessing a claim. It may also be worth mentioning that where property is jointly owned, it’s assumed that the parties involved own equal shares unless you provide evidence to suggest otherwise.

As an overall rule, any property you own is likely to be considered as capital, and the value of this property will often count against a claim for universal credit. While capital up to £6,000 is ignored, the value of any capital over £6,000 will decrease how much you’ll be entitled to claim, calculated proportionally as the value increases over £6,000. If you own any capital worth more than £16,000, you will not be entitled to universal credit.

However, there are exceptions and some capital is disregarded.

Your former home does not count towards your capital if you ceased to live there because your relationship has ended, and either of the two following criteria apply:

  • Your husband is a lone parent and lives it in as his home; or
  • You left the property within the last six months. Property may also be disregarded if you are taking ‘reasonable steps to dispose of it’ (i.e. you’re trying to sell it, or at least sell your share) and began doing so within the last six months.

There is no time limit for the disregard if your husband is a lone parent, which means that the property won’t be considered indefinitely as long as this arrangement applies.

The 6-month limit applying to the other two disregards is not absolute. The DWP can extend this time period ‘if it is reasonable to do so’ in the circumstances.

The regulations don’t state what would be ‘reasonable’, so it would be discretionary on the part of the DWP based on the information given to them. Because domestic abuse played a part in why you had to leave, I’d hope that this would be given serious consideration, but it would be down to the reviewing officer to make a decision.

In addition to this information, I’d also recommend getting specialist benefits advice if you haven't already done so. Citizens Advice could carry out a full benefits assessment, and give you an idea of how much you may be able to claim. There are various ways to contact them, including by webchat. You can find out more by visiting their website here:
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/contact-us/

It may also be useful to look at the Turn 2 Us website. It has a calculator to help you check whether there are any means-tested benefits you could apply for. It also allows you to search for grants that may be available from local charities or other organisations, if you need additional financial support. You can find out more by visiting their website:
www.turn2us.org.uk/

I hope this helps to clarify your position, and very best wishes for the future. Thanks again for your message.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

ShelterAdviceClinic · 17/09/2019 16:42

@FAQs

What are your thought on the tenancy fee ban raising rents?

Hi @FAQs,

Thanks for your question.

As discussed with @ohforgoodnessake and @tenancywoes, there isn't yet enough evidence to suggest a definite trend, but anecdotally we've heard of some landlords and agents increasing rents and citing the Tenant Fees Act as the reason.

As the government has stated, the aim of the Tenant Fees Act is to reduce the costs that tenants can face at the outset, and throughout, a tenancy. It would be disappointing and unjustified if a rent increase was blamed on a measure designed to make renting more affordable.

However, the responses we’ve encountered from most tenants about the Act have been positive, and if you need advice on this, please do get in touch and I'll give you any information I can.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

Dhalandchips · 17/09/2019 21:52

@andy @ shelter, thank you for your reply. I am going to try and let her know that she's causing me stress, and just try and be as polite and smiley as possible! I do want to stay here, it's walking distance to schools, and kids' friends. It's a nice place, and rare as hen's teeth! I'll just rise above it all... Thank you x

Sparklesandpasta · 17/09/2019 22:03

Thank you very much for your prompt and in depth answer to our woes. Very much appreciated!

Siablue · 18/09/2019 07:58

Thank you Andy that is a very detailed reply. I will go and see the CAB.

It’s awful that I could be entitled to nothing because I am the lone parent but hopefully I will get something for 6 months or so.

ShelterAdviceClinic · 18/09/2019 09:05

[quote Dhalandchips]@andy @ shelter, thank you for your reply. I am going to try and let her know that she's causing me stress, and just try and be as polite and smiley as possible! I do want to stay here, it's walking distance to schools, and kids' friends. It's a nice place, and rare as hen's teeth! I'll just rise above it all... Thank you x[/quote]

You're very welcome, @Dhalandchips.

I understand that it must feel like a very delicate situation, but I hope she's able to see your side of things. It would also be great to know how things go if you're able to send an update at some point.

If you need any more advice, please do get back in touch.

Best wishes,

Andy @ Shelter

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ShelterAdviceClinic · 18/09/2019 09:09

@Sparklesandpasta

Thank you very much for your prompt and in depth answer to our woes. Very much appreciated!

You're more than welcome, @Sparklesandpasta.

I hope that you're able to resolve the situation with your landlord. If you need any more advice - particularly about the disrepair you mentioned, which I know we didn't cover in much detail - please do come back to us.

If you wish to, you're also very welcome to contact our advice services if you need information after this clinic has finished - you can do so via the link in the signoff below.

Best wishes,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

ShelterAdviceClinic · 18/09/2019 09:35

@Siablue

Thank you *Andy* that is a very detailed reply. I will go and see the CAB.

It’s awful that I could be entitled to nothing because I am the lone parent but hopefully I will get something for 6 months or so.

No problem at all, @Siablue.

Yes, I can understand your concerns; you must have a lot to worry about particularly given what else I imagine you have to deal with at the moment.

It's definitely worth asking the DWP for an extension on the 6-month limit if you are still in the same circumstances - as I mentioned in the earlier message, domestic abuse is something that should be given very careful consideration and treated with sensitivity.

What your arrangements are with your husband at the end of the 6-month period may well also play a part in any decision. For example, as we discussed before, if you're taking steps to dispose of your share of the property this can affect your entitlement.

You may have already sought advice from a family law perspective, but if not this might be something worth considering. Your rights in respect to the property come largely from family law, and in situations like this, establishing beneficial interest or dealing with property disputes are also often based in this area of law.

If you do need help, you could try contacting Rights of Women. They’re a voluntary organisation offering free, confidential legal in areas such as family law, divorce and relationship breakdown, children and contact issues. You can find out more here: www.row.org.uk/get-advice/

I hope everything works out for you. If there's anything else we can do to help, please do get back in touch.

Best wishes,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

plantlife · 18/09/2019 13:24

Sorry if there's no definite answer to my question. I understand if you can't answer. I don't suppose you know. If I was in a refuge in another part of the UK to where I'm from, would the local council in the refuge area let me go on their social housing list? I don't mean applying as homeless, just the normal list, and would I lose points for not being local? My other question is more curiosity rather than for me. I can't stay in my local area or even close by, so it's irrelevant for me. I can't help wondering about this. Is there any campaign by Shelter (or anyone else) to either end the Localism Act or at least ensure its more equally applied across every council. Some areas require you to have lived in the area for say two years, another area demands five years. It means people who have to move a lot end up being unable to go on any housing list. Too long out of one area, not long enough in another. Thanks in advance.

plantlife · 18/09/2019 13:26

Sorry, one final question. Again, I don't know if you'd know this. If someone is on ESA (rather than UC) and they move areas, would they be allowed to stay on ESA and claim housing benefit or would they have to change to UC? If it's a refuge does that change anything? Thank you.

namechangeaskingforafriend · 18/09/2019 14:15

If someone is not named on the tenancy but is the primary carer for children, do they have any rights to the house in the event of a relationship breakdown.

The partner is named and their relative is guarantor.

They are unmarried, friend has a 'pin money' job and tax credits. Their partner is the main earner after a period of being out of work but the relationship is heading for breakdown.

Friend does not want to lost the stability of their current home for children or their work.

ShelterAdviceClinic · 18/09/2019 16:06

@plantlife

Sorry if there's no definite answer to my question. I understand if you can't answer. I don't suppose you know. If I was in a refuge in another part of the UK to where I'm from, would the local council in the refuge area let me go on their social housing list? I don't mean applying as homeless, just the normal list, and would I lose points for not being local?

Hello @plantlife,

Thank you for your questions.

It sounds like you’ve been going through some difficult circumstances recently, and I can understand why you’re seeking advice on these issues.

When it comes to qualifying for social housing, as you’ve mentioned each council is responsible for managing its waiting lists and deciding who is entitled to join. Waiting lists are managed by the council’s own allocations policy, which defines the rules the council must abide by when considering applications.

Most councils now have ‘local connection’ criteria, which limits those who haven’t lived in that council area for a certain amount of time. As you suggest, applicants often need to have lived in an area for a number of years to join. There are often exemptions – for example, a family, employment or education connection to the area, or care and support needs. However, it’s the policy of the council to which you wish to apply that would define whether you’d qualify.

There are policies that have specific local connection exemptions for those fleeing domestic violence, and it’s possible that this could apply to you. Most policies also have ‘exceptional circumstances’ terms that allow the housing department to act with some discretion when someone doesn’t otherwise qualify for the waiting list.

You should be able to view the allocations policy of your council online, or you could ask a member of the housing team to view a copy. You can then apply it to your own circumstances to establish whether you'll qualify and if so, what level of priority you could expect to be awarded.

You can read our advice about allocations here: england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/council_housing_association/how_councils_allocate_housing

@plantlife

Sorry, one final question. Again, I don't know if you'd know this. If someone is on ESA (rather than UC) and they move areas, would they be allowed to stay on ESA and claim housing benefit or would they have to change to UC? If it's a refuge does that change anything? Thank you.

With respect to the situation regarding ESA and universal credit, I’m afraid that as far as I’m aware a change in circumstances such as changing areas automatically requires you to stop claiming legacy benefits (like ESA) and claim universal credit instead.

However, it’s worth getting some specialist benefits advice to see if there are any exceptions to this. You might be able to get further advice about this from Citizens Advice. There are several ways to contact them - you can find out more by visiting their website here:
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/contact-us/

@plantlife

My other question is more curiosity rather than for me. I can't stay in my local area or even close by, so it's irrelevant for me. I can't help wondering about this. Is there any campaign by Shelter (or anyone else) to either end the Localism Act or at least ensure its more equally applied across every council. Some areas require you to have lived in the area for say two years, another area demands five years. It means people who have to move a lot end up being unable to go on any housing list. Too long out of one area, not long enough in another. Thanks in advance.

Regarding the Localism Act, as far as I know there aren’t currently any campaigns to revoke this legislation, either by Shelter or anyone else. The Localism Act affected various areas of law, not only relating to allocation of social housing but also Right to Buy, homelessness legislation, and deposit protection requirements. Some of these changes are largely considered to be positive.

Additionally, as I understand the situation, even if the influence of the Localism Act on social housing was removed it would cause other issues that could be equally as restrictive to applicants.

However, Shelter is currently campaigning to build more social housing. If more social housing became available, this could help to reduce some of the restrictions introduced by the Localism Act and open up the sector to many more people in housing need. If you’d like to read more about this campaign, you can do so here: england.shelter.org.uk/support_us/campaigns/demand_social_housing_funding

I hope this information is useful, and your circumstances improve soon. If there’s anything else we can help with, you’re very welcome to get back in touch.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

ShelterAdviceClinic · 18/09/2019 16:47

@namechangeaskingforafriend

If someone is not named on the tenancy but is the primary carer for children, do they have any rights to the house in the event of a relationship breakdown.

The partner is named and their relative is guarantor.

They are unmarried, friend has a 'pin money' job and tax credits. Their partner is the main earner after a period of being out of work but the relationship is heading for breakdown.

Friend does not want to lost the stability of their current home for children or their work.

Hi @namechangeaskingforafriend,

I can appreciate your concerns regarding the status of the non-tenant party here, and I’m sorry to hear about the issues they and their family are facing.

I’m sorry to say that there is no automatic right for the non-tenant party to remain in the property, even if they are the primary carer for their children, if the relationship was to break down. Their right to occupy the property essentially comes from the permission of the named tenant, and once this permission ends so does the right to live there.

If a person has a sole tenancy in their name only and wants their ex-partner to move out, all that is usually needed is 'reasonable notice'. This is unless there's an agreement in place stating something else should happen. Reasonable notice is not defined in law and depends on the specific circumstances.

However, in certain situations, it may be possible under family law to have the tenancy transferred into the non-tenant’s name, or for them to come to other arrangements regarding occupation of the property.

For example, if a non-named occupier wants the right to stay in the home, they may be able to apply for an occupation order. Someone in this situation would need specialist advice on family law.

They may benefit from the support of a family law specialist to do this. You can use the Law Society website to search for local family law solicitors here:
solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/

For women in circumstances like this, Rights of Women may also be able to help. They’re a voluntary organisation who give free and confidential legal advice. They can assist with family law, divorce and relationship breakdown, children and contact issues. You can find out more here: www.row.org.uk/get-advice/

Either of the parties involved could also consider contacting the charity Relate to see if they’re able to offer any advice on relationships and separation. You can read more here: www.relate.org.uk/relationship-help/help-separation-and-divorce

I hope this helps to clarify their situation and their rights. If you need additional advice, please do let us know. If the individuals involved want to contact us directly, they're very welcome to do so.

Kind regards,

Andy @ Shelter

Contact Shelter's housing experts online, by telephone, in person or on social media: england.shelter.org.uk/get_help

tenancywoes · 18/09/2019 18:12

Thanks, Andy. I'm happy to help if I can.

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