How and where can I find a really remote cottage? Ireland, Scotland, Wales.... where else?

[StarryStarryNight]

I am looking to buy a really remote little 2 bedroom cottage as a holiday home.

I am thinking Wales, Ireland, Scotland, but dont know where to start?

Or maybe land and do a timber self build?

Has anybody done this?

Any suggestions for nice areas where I can cycle, angling (river and sea fishing), pick wild berries, etc...

I dont need electricity.

[expatinscotland]

Norway is a much more socialist place than the UK.

[moondog]

Well now I am confused. if the community you live in is like this,why do you want to leave it?

[StarryStarryNight]

MagicMayhem.

Thank you for your suggestions, that is not exactly what i had in mind. A road to it is nice, I am fine to walk 30 minutes or so from the nearest place I can park my car. I dont need running water, but a well, or clean river is most useful. Preferably not in Wales.

Starrys dream cottage

[expatinscotland]

Because now the poor woman is stuck in LONDON, moony. London. Where the gap between have and have not is about as steep as it gets here.

And she wants to leave it behind her.

[Desiderata]

I'm well aware of it, Peaches. I'm well aware of the arguments pro and against. I'm not left-wing, I take a stance on things. The English have completely lost the ability to even have this argument without being called racist. It seems that the Welsh can still have this argument and get away with it.

Fair play.

But I'm talking about the OP. I don't want a geo-political debate.

Starry is thinking of building a cabin in the countryside. Any one got a problem with that?

[moondog]

Good
We're all happy

[expatinscotland]

I'm starting to think we'd be happier in a place like Norway, tbh.

[moondog]

Wot,so folk in London are shuffling snow off each other's cottages?
This is what I am not clear about.I gathered that Starry is city dweller seeking escapeso what is this community she refers to?


I quote.....


'I guess here it is just a way of life, and you dont have to be rich to have a cottage like this, many city folk do as being part of nature is so important. Most spend every weekend in their cottages, fishing, picking blueberries, artic cloudberries, crowberries etc.

And the farming/countryside community of fishermen and farmers welcome these, and even help look after the cottages by looking in on them, shuffling snow of the roofs, etc. Money is spent in the countryside, both on fishing permits, groceries, etc... '

[Desiderata]

Do you feel sufficiently stupid, now, Moony?

[StarryStarryNight]

Moondog, I went to london to study, found love, married my husband and settled. I want to find a way of bestowing upon my children the same sense of unity with nature, and love for nature, that I grew up with. I cant do two flights to get there each time I fancy a weekend break (not even mentioning my carbon footprint). Doesnt seem that I will be able to find it in the UK by the looks of things. I do not want to be surrounded by hostility just because I dare to thread where no outsiders should on a weekend or holiday...

[expatinscotland]

Oh, I was under the impression she was Norwegian and reminiscing about the place she left behind.

[Desiderata]

expat let's book tickets.

[moondog]

Oh I'm all for people coming...then going.

Am arranging house swap with London based MNer as we speak.

Desi,I think the English can and should argue long and hard about peopel who refuse to integrate within their society.Thing is though,Anglophone culture will never be at risk the way that my own is.

[StarryStarryNight]

... and at the moment, I am home, on holiday, north norway (pics in my profile) and that is the community I am referring to, not the London one...

[expatinscotland]

Aha, I read right!

I do wish the Scottish countryside were more like that, Starry, with cottages for normal people.

But sadly, it's not.

We have two years left here, then, I'm afraid, we're going to have to go for good.

It's just too dear for normal families who don't have pots of money to live in a real house if they didn't get on the 'property ladder' long ago, and the rental laws here mean having to move too often to be good for children.

That's how it is - take it or leave it.

[moondog]

Oh,I never knew she is/was Norwegian

[Desiderata]

I totally disagree, Mooney.

We're already dead. You have rights. The English have none.

[expatinscotland]

It's an option, Des. We're keeping our eyes open and looking at all all the EU.

[moondog]

Right..I finally understand.

I am mates with a Welsh speaking Swede......

[moondog]

Oh come on Desi!
What rights do we have that you don't??

I live in a palce where Tesco are telling staff they can't speak Welsh in the workplace. This is in a community where 80% of us have Welsh as a first language.

[Desiderata]

You might all have been a bit nicer had you realized it

[moondog]

Tesco's ban on speaking Welsh

[expatinscotland]

Huh? I wasn't mean, Des. Just truthful about how people who buy holiday homes are seen in many areas here - but then, the holiday homes aren't like what Starry had in mind.

Never said I'd burn holiday homes down or that.

[StarryStarryNight]

True, expat wasnt mean.

[StarryStarryNight]

moondog, that ban on speaking your mothertongue is apalling.