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How and where can I find a really remote cottage? Ireland, Scotland, Wales.... where else?

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StarryStarryNight · 01/08/2007 19:31

I am looking to buy a really remote little 2 bedroom cottage as a holiday home.

I am thinking Wales, Ireland, Scotland, but dont know where to start?

Or maybe land and do a timber self build?

Has anybody done this?

Any suggestions for nice areas where I can cycle, angling (river and sea fishing), pick wild berries, etc...

I dont need electricity.

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expatinscotland · 01/08/2007 21:56

She doesn't want ANYONE on her precious patch of Perthshire. Cow.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 21:56

Lay off, moony. Starry's motivations are not what you think, and if no one ever moves to the country, then you're all fucked.

Rich people from Padstow moving in and buying second homes = locals not being able to afford to live there any more.

Starry moving into a shack or self-build in the middle of nowhere = none of your bloody business.

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StarryStarryNight · 01/08/2007 21:57

moondog, have you learnt to read yet? Or are you not bothered to read a post properly before you post? Otherwise I might think you are illiterate.

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moondog · 01/08/2007 21:57

Fuck off Desi.

I'll say what I like.

If she only wants yes folk then she shouldn't be posting here.

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:00

Second home owners and all they bring with them are ruining my community

So no,they aren't welcome.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:04

Do you feel the same way about the Poles, or the Indians, Moony? Or any other fucker who patently doesn't belong in your community?

Like I say, rich buggers buying second homes that locals can't afford is one thing. I feel rather strongly about that myself.

But this thread isn't about that.

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:05

Oh,it's different if you're right on is it and want to spin goat hair?

Don't play the racist card with me.Sloppy thinking.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:08

That's a new one! I don't think you'll find many people of MN who think I'm a lentil-weaver

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:09

Er,I'm not talking about you (although have no idea of what your thing is)

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:12

OK, so the goat hair thing wasn't aimed at me?

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:15

No.
I am questioning why you think that hippy folk hanging out in 'eco lodges' is better than a twat in a 4X4 in a holiday cottage.
I don't think it is.

Magicmayhem · 01/08/2007 22:18

is this what you were thinking off...
www.bellingram.co.uk/property-sales/properties-country.html

KalunaLoveGood · 01/08/2007 22:21
Sheherazadethegoat · 01/08/2007 22:22

keep the goats hair out of this.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:23

I would agree with you on both, Moondog, but Starry falls into neither camp.

I think that this argument has upset her. I don't think there's any need for the level of aggression that's been shown on this thread.

We all speak from experience, and it colours (you could say it enriches) our experience. But I know a little bit about Starry, and she ain't like the people you describe.

I have suggested a new-build. She has posted pictures of new-built timber cabins. I don't see how that can impinge on your way of life. She doesn't even want electricity.

I think you've hurt someone's feelings this evening. I've done it myself a hundred times, so I'm not coming at you from the high ground.

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:29

I don't want my community to become a playground.If people want to come,live,work,participate and most importantly learn Welsh then they are more than welcome.There are plenty here in my village including a charming American family and another Dutch one.Oh,and a clan of Turks whose kids all speak fluent Welsh.

Otherwise,they aren't.

I'm not sure why yuo feel that you need to fight on Starry's side though. Is she not capable of sticking up for herself. If I've upset her,then I am sorry (although I think that being upset by what strangers say on an internet forum is worrying) but I do find her snow shuffling comments patronising and ill informed.

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StarryStarryNight · 01/08/2007 22:33

Desi, that is ok. I am more touched about you "getting" me, than I am saddened by moondogs "not getting me". It saddens me that her experiences are like that, and she has so much aggresion in her, and that posh toffee nosed people come and ruin communities with 4x4 and show off lifestyle (which I turn my back on) is such a problem (I was not aware it was) in her area. If she is indeed so angry she feels the need to take the piss with goats hair, hippy and lentil weaving talk, then I truly feel sorry for her. That is not a good place to be.

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Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:33

Oh, I see. So everybody has to learn Welsh to live in your place, do they?

Sorry, I live in England. For some bizarre reason, it's not a requirement over here.

If I was to post your comment on another thread, I'd be accused of racism. Don't get me wrong, it would be bollocks, but it's interesting to see how you can get away with it because your Welsh.

Very interesting.

So, everyone's welcome but the English? Is that right?

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:34

God Desi,read the posts if you want to argue coherently.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:36

... and if a clan of Turks speak fluent Welsh, then they're way surpassing the Welsh.

Respect.

moondog · 01/08/2007 22:37

My mother is English.
She is most welcome.

Desiderata · 01/08/2007 22:37

I read your posts, Moondog.

My arguments are forensically clear.

Magicmayhem · 01/08/2007 22:38

how about this

PeachesMcLean · 01/08/2007 22:40

It's a very tricky issue to be honest Desi, that's peculiar to north west Wales. The culture is first language Welsh speaking. If you've got a load of people who speak a different language, the culture changes. Whether they're speaking English, Urdu, Polish, whatever. In cities there's no problem with that. Cities are built on diversity and can thrive on it. In rural communities language is a much bigger issue. Feel free to contradict me on this, this is just my instinct. Anyone's welcome if they learn to fit in - that's true of any rural community. And in certain parts of Wales, that means learning Welsh. I don't speak Welsh, but I sure as hell wouldn't consider moving to certain parts of the country without learning it. Language is a big thing in Wales.

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StarryStarryNight · 01/08/2007 22:44

Moondog:
"but I do find her snow shuffling comments patronising and ill informed. "

Obviously you did not read. I was referring to how it is HERE in MY community, not yours. That is what locals do, if they realize that somebody's cottage is about to crack under the weight of the snow, they go and bloody do something about it. They are not so up theirs they cant do somebody a good turn! And if they don have time to shuffle, they call you and tell you. If you have had your cottage for twenty years, you spend entire summer holidays, most weekends, and easter break too, you get to know the locals, that is inevitable. I dont see how my experience is patronising and ill informed.

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