Please help me with this house layout

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I want to buy this house because it's perfect location for us. DH thinks our 2 DDs need equal(ish) sized bedrooms and there should be enough space for 3 good sized plus one or two smaller (under 9m2) bedrooms.

On paper there's loads of room but I can't make it work because of sloping ceilings.

Master bedroom is essentially a loft conversion (from a roof shape perspective) because I thought about splitting it down the middle but there would be no ceiling height. DH wouldn't want to spend money on dormers (& I'd want to keep the neighbours onside). The 'office' has reduced head height with about a door width on the wall shared with the walk in wardrobe that is full height. The door through to the Master bedroom is cut into the slope.

I'm stumped. Please help! The downstairs layout is great so moving the stairs wouldn't be that helpful downstairs (but I would consider it depending on downstairs impact).

Could you move the bathroom to the other small bedroom and then knock the bathroom and other bedroom together??

That's a thought but there would be 2 bathrooms but no master ensuite (I do really like the idea of an ensuite!)

Hmm unless the other (opposite landing) bathroom became the ensuite somehow?!

Could you not convert the two little bedrooms into one big bedroom? Then beds 2 and 3 would both be a decent size.

Yes but then it would only be a 3 double bed house which we have at the moment. For 200k more that's not going to convince DH!

Ceiling height wise the office makes a lousy corridor so I don't think the opposite landing bathroom as ensuite would work.

Each DD has a small bedroom and the bigger bedroom which backs onto the office becomes a shared playroom/chill out room which has a decent sofa bed in it for visitors?

This is what I would do. Make the current ensuite and the dressing room a bedroom and move the ensuite. The plumbing is there so wouldn't cost too much. If you wanted to keep costs down you could just sort the bedroom and have the current study as a large hallway for now and add the ensuite later.

why can't DD have the two small bedrooms sharing the existing bathroom?

you keep master bed with ensuite, bedroom 4 opposite office becomes DD's playroom/ study /snug etc but with a good fold out double bed/sofa so it can become a guest room when required guests also use main bathroom, the office stays as such

Small bedrooms are easier to keep tidy!

Def have the small room each and they both share the large room as extra space.

I would do as Christmastreeohchritmastree suggests but then also make the two small bedrooms into one larger bedroom. You’d then have 4 decent sized bedrooms.

Block off dressing room so it's just for the master and knock wall throughout bathroom on the left so it turns into one big room with bedroom next to it. Turn office into ensuite for master. Turn the two bedrooms on the right into one room. Budget dependent of course

Move the bathroom into the smallest bedroom and combine second smallest bedroom and bathroom t create a room similar size to second largest bedroom?

Give them the rooms next to each other, turn the bigger bedroom into an upstairs lounge, with on stair case wall flat screen TV cinema style and sofa corner.... IKEA have one that becomes a double bed.

The pp with the diagram is ideal on paper but due to sloping roof it's a no go unfortunately.

DDs have 3 x 4 and 3 x 3 bedrooms at the moment so don't want to go smaller. There's a 2.6 x 5m playroom downstairs already so we wouldn't need one upstairs. This would be our forever house so I'm imagining bedrooms for teenagers. I was lucky mine was 5 x 5 as a kid and the sleepovers were awesome!

Bathroom into smallest bedroom makes more equal bedrooms but no spare room and we already have a 3 double bedroom house. But that's the kind of thinking I need to shake it up a bit.

Perhaps it's just not the right house?

Now matter how you look at it the layout isn't going to work, that you want the two big rooms for the girls, your saying the master bedroom is funny, and the office and the dressing room to assess the bathroom , just don't flow.

I don't think you can fix it without major renovations,

These are the conclusions I'm coming to. Been looking for 2 years!

Perhaps you need something that you can extend?

Ok... You can fix it then... If you have too...
Spiral stair case... To the master bedroom...
Close off the door too the office false wall., and give one teenager that Room.
They both get a box room as a study ..

By the way you put orangery across the middle of the L of the house. That is where you put the spiral staircase... So. You only need a door cut through into the corner of the house .

I can't quite imagine your roof line. Can you say which rooms have reduced head height: office ceiling slopes down from left, what's the master ceiling like? Full height in middle sloping down left to right, or front to back? Is back left bedroom also reduced height if the office is? If not can you chop part of that off to extend the hall to access dressing room and en-suite?

Could the lower two thirds of the dressing room become the ensuite, then the current ensuite and top bit of the dressing room could be a small spare room (door from current office) and beds 3 and 4 could be knocked together for one of the DDs. Bed 2 and the bathroom stay the same.

@NeedAUsernameGenerator I think you've done it!!!!! You've actually done it!!

That's perfect! We still get an ensuite. DDs get 2 excellent bedroom sizes and we have a small double spare room!! That's exactly where the ceiling height is best in the office. I just didn't see it.

All the rooms upstairs have sloped ceilings to the outer edge of the house. All windows are sort of dormer style set into the roof. Ceiling height is best in the middle of the rooms.

Till we get the money together all we need to do is knock 3+4 together for a bedroom and have no spare room. Once we have the need/money to redo the current bathroom and fitted furniture in the main bedroom we can do that second stage to get the spare room! That would make DH happy not spending loads of money immediately when we move in.