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Log burners

47 replies

Vanillabloom · 30/10/2018 21:21

Can anyone give me any advice how much a 5k would be to install? I’ve seen some on eBay but I know it’s the installation which is the most expensive. Any experiences ?

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Soontobe60 · 30/10/2018 21:28

It very much depends on where it's going. Will the chimney need lining? Will the fireplace need opening up?
We had a 5k fitted into an existing fireplace and paid £3k in total including the fire. Some companies will not fit fires not supplied by them.

Before and after photos.
Mantle is solid oak. Hearth is slate.

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Vanillabloom · 30/10/2018 21:41

The chimney is there and the flute is installed. It’s just the actual log burner and installation Smile

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Vanillabloom · 30/10/2018 21:42

Looks lovely by the way! So cosy

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bluetrampolines · 30/10/2018 22:15

Wow.so nice

Polestar50 · 30/10/2018 22:25

Our chimney sweep just quoted £1300 to £1600 for installation of a mid range, DEFRA approved convection burner into an unlined brick chimney in a 3 storey Victorian terrace property. The price includes burner, flue lining, installation, cowl etc
We're in the SW.
It's cheaper than I thought tbh.

LizzieBennettDarcy · 30/10/2018 22:31

Ours was about £3.5k but that's mainly due to the granite hearth and surround. We've got a Fireline inset woodburner and it's wonderful. Our 80s build chimney didn't need a liner so we've just got a cowl on the chimney to stop downdraft.

Nikkidd6 · 31/10/2018 08:30

Installation is expensive. Expect to pay around £1500 + The flue may not be suitable for a woodburner. The fire must have manufacturers instructions otherwise you will struggle to get an engineer to fit it.

wineymummy · 31/10/2018 09:52

We paid £300 for install and extra £1000 for a liner - 2 years ago, SE. Stove was about £500, builder did the opening for about £400 and we laid the hearth ourselves with tiles.

MrsStrowman · 31/10/2018 10:55

We've just agreed a quote for the following, lining of chimney, new chimney pot, 5k Stovax burner, slate hearth and limestone surround/fireplace £2850 and we're South East/not far from London. We used an independent shop who work with a local fitter they have bus as good a price as anything I could see on eBay for the burner we wanted and the fitter want keen to fit anything bought from an unknown source in case it wasn't genuine and not up to safety standards. I thought the above price was really good.

MrsStrowman · 31/10/2018 10:56

Oh that's a new flue too

LEMtheoriginal · 31/10/2018 11:04

I was going to say between £1500 - £2000 not including the burner. Ive fitted a few with Dp and its a pig of a job. He doesn't do them anymore as its not his "thing" and the additional cost of building inspection as he doesn't have hetas registration makes him more expensive.

It is a requirement to have your chimney lined and there are alot of regulations regarding distances and clearances. What your fireplace is like etc.

Id be wary of second-hand burners and would recommend a site survey before you commit to anything.

Saying all that our log burner is listed high among the best thing we have ever bought.

wineymummy · 31/10/2018 11:10

We were told (by our HETAs registered stove installer) that the liner was optional as long as the chimney passed a smoke test. Paid a chimney sweep about £50 to start a fire and we all stood on the road and watched as smoke leaded out of the brickwork and filled the loft. Smoke test failed, liner required. I would say liners are a good idea regardless, they reduce the risk of a chimney fire and make sweeping easier.

LEMtheoriginal · 31/10/2018 11:13

Winey as i understand it, there is another test that has to be done in addition to a smoke test before it can be passed for no liner. But im willing to be corrected as dp has only done a handfull of liners under building control inspections.

wineymummy · 31/10/2018 11:32

Sounds right LEM - we thought it was too good to be true that we could have potentially saved £1000 by not having the liner. Presumably to do with distance between the flue and combustible materials.

MrsStrowman · 31/10/2018 11:59

Thornton's, hotel Chocolat, essentially you want a good quality one made with chocolate flakes/curls rather than powder, then make it with milk

MrsStrowman · 31/10/2018 12:00

Sorry not sure how that ended up on this thread!

PleaseDoNotBurnWood · 01/11/2018 16:47

Hello

For the sake of your childrens health, your own health and the health of your neighbours please do not install a wood burning stove - even a modern 'eco' stove.

Read this report which was published within the last couple of weeks:

www.ippr.org/files/2018-10/1539184665_lethal-but-legal-october18.pdf

And also this one which can you believe is Defra's own report (the morons who endorse the use of these things). If you can't be bothered reading either report then at least look at the chart on Page 18 of this one which shows that even the Eco Stoves are like parking a Lorry outside your house and idling it all night:

uk-air.defra.gov.uk/assets/documents/reports/cat11/1708081027_170807_AQEG_Biomass_report.pdf

The choice is yours of course. If you decide ignore it and listen to the marketing propaganda of the Stove Industry then I can assure you, your neighbours will despise you.

You will of course be wasting your money as it is almost certain that wood burning will be banned within 5 years time as there is no way governments can meet air pollution targets by allowing wood burning. The carbon neutral spin is also a fallacy and governments can also not meet Co2 targets by allowing wood burning.

Please take this advice, save yourself a load of money in the process.

MrsStrowman · 01/11/2018 17:09

@PleaseDoNotBurnWood that's not what the OP asked. Do you drive? Fly? Eat anything other than local vegan produce? Have children? Work on your own carbon footprint rather than offer your judgement when it hasn't been asked for.

PleaseDoNotBurnWood · 01/11/2018 18:30

Good evening @MrsStrowman.
Oh my, I guess the truth really does hurt. I guess you didn't do your due diligence when you had yours fitted?

Have you consulted your neighbours about how they feel about you poisoning their air with PM2.5 particulates? Read the reports - one of them is by DEFRA themselves! PM2.5 particulates are the most harmful form of air pollution and domestic wood burning is responsible for a hugely disproportionate volume of them.

I speak as somebody who's property is surrounded by wood stoves and knows all to well just how wood burning makes you a prisoner in your own home for 6 months of the year.

I am not sure how your childish attempt at insults are relevant either. Factory produced vegan food requires a lot of manufacturing process throughout the whole supply chain due to the highly processed ingredients - far more than non vegan food so is in fact incredibly bad for the environment.

And oh yes, the reason we are in this mess is because the likes of DEFRA listened to the green lobby. Wood burning has become a problem precisely because of the green groups.

You don't have to be an eco-weenie to desire clean air, you just need a modicum of common sense, which is clearly beyond your comprehension. After all breathing is just a little important...

My husband's asthma has been terrible the last couple of years over winter since wood burning in our neighbourhood became commonplace. And as a responsible parent I am concerned for the health of my daughter when playing out in winter because of wood smoke.

You carry on burning wood @MrsStrowman while you still can. And when you do decide to educate yourself as to the dangers, please feel free to look back on your own comments around wood burning with a different insight.

If my comments persuade just one person not to have one of these hateful contraptions installed before than ban then job done.

If you like to present some facts to counter the argument (stove industry marketing drivel is not factual) then I will gladly consider them.

BentNeckLady · 01/11/2018 18:43

I adore mine. Best 2 grand we’ve spent. The stove was a grand and the liner, hearth and fitting were a grand.

I don’t know about anyone else but when my stove is lit I can’t even smell it outside and can’t even see any smoke coming out of the chimney.

RedneckStumpy · 01/11/2018 18:49

PleaseDoNotBurnWood

I am content and happy burning wood, it’s renewable, and our only source of heat. I would love to hear your alternative heat sources for us.

PleaseDoNotBurnWood · 01/11/2018 19:05

RedneckStumpy, BentNeckLady

Enjoy them while you still can Grin. Opinions are changing. A new clean air act is on the way. I guess once the Mail and Express tell you they are bad then you will believe it.

Farewell

MrsStrowman · 01/11/2018 19:09

@PleaseDoNotBurnWood ODFOD

Todamhottoday · 01/11/2018 19:12

''wood burning makes you a prisoner in your own home for 6 months of the year.''

Wow

johnd2 · 01/11/2018 19:15

I think the problem with wood burning is the particles, yes natural gas produces no2 and isn't renewable, but the is no particulates whatsoever is a very consistent quality and is burned under tight mixture control in a boiler.. Wood burning is more ecologically sound for the co2 cycle but in terms of local air quality it is indeed worse than diesel, which itself has turned out to be terrible.
So yes wood burners are disproportionately bad, but if you're deciding whether to run a wood burner or smash up your asbestos garage clearly the former is less bad. Give it a couple of decades and everyone will be electrically heating their houses, no need for localised emissions.